Indoor Thai Haze - 1 pound monster !

[Bueno Time]

Green that Thai Haze looks great.

I wish I had to patience to grow something that takes that long to flower. Maybe once I get my 600w grow tent set up I will grow a nice sativa. For now I only have 2 square feet of space so for now I just want to keep the buds pumping out of the cab every 2 months so its indicas for me right now and I like the couchlock stoned feeling anyway.

Anyways awesome work on that baby cant wait to see her chopped!

 

[Greenrocket]

I probably prefer the strong indica stoned as well BT. Is the cab like a grow capsule with flouros in it. If so I had one of them once and grew a plant. It was shaped like a Dr who tar dis. ?

 

[JamieShoes]

ill go to the hydro store and get some food that has less nitrogen and that can keep it going for about a week atleast

I use GHE Ripen mate 0.6.5

 

[Greenrocket]

The local shop didnt have any ripen so all I brought this stuff called Diamond Nectar its "derived from Phosphoric Acid and Potassium Hydroxide". Which sounds like something you dye your hair with.

 

[whodair]

I am also after some quality info about the Thai haze but were I got I got freebies from the site doesnt provide any info on the strain or breeder.

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Breeder : Sam the Skunkman
Flowering Time : 12 weeks
Environment : INDOOR/OUTDOOR/GREENHOUSE
Seeds Per Pack : 10

From one of the most knowledgeable and respected members of the cannabis community, Sam the Skunkman, we have his new F1 Hybrid that for the connoisseur grower should prove to be outstanding.

This is for the true sativa lover, and not for inexperienced growers. This variety requires a larger grow area than the shorter flowering indoor indicas, and will require around 12 weeks to complete.


i also recd thsk from another seedbank as freebies. i was able to verify through jim that they are sams seeds. when i ran it from clone, in a one gal pot, the plant was much more manageable, and ripened equally throughout the plant too

 

[Greenrocket]

Thats good to hear.

Its really starting to go yellow so I have started feeding her again.

 

[Greenrocket]

Click to enlarge
Breeder : Sam the Skunkman
Flowering Time : 12 weeks
Environment : INDOOR/OUTDOOR/GREENHOUSE
Seeds Per Pack : 10

From one of the most knowledgeable and respected members of the cannabis community, Sam the Skunkman, we have his new F1 Hybrid that for the connoisseur grower should prove to be outstanding.

This is for the true sativa lover, and not for inexperienced growers. This variety requires a larger grow area than the shorter flowering indoor indicas, and will require around 12 weeks to complete.


i also recd thsk from another seedbank as freebies. i was able to verify through jim that they are sams seeds. when i ran it from clone, in a one gal pot, the plant was much more manageable, and ripened equally throughout the plant too

Im very happy with the way its turned out. This time around I would have to say the Thai is the better strain but that just could be luck.

I did grab a few clones.

 

[bigherb]

Thats good to hear.

Its really starting to go yellow so I have started feeding her again.

looks great

wat are you feeding her ?

remember the yellowing of the fans leaves is a natural process toward the end of the flowering phase especially wen you feed a high P K bloom fertilizer low in N,if you continue too feed you should exspect another 4 weeks or soo ,the yellowing IMO is not bad at all and doesnt look to be a problem ,id continue a guano or watever for a week at most then molasses and plain waterings


1luvbigherb

 

[the END]

I 2nd Bigherb, If you are planning on giving them the axe within the next couple weeks, dont worry about feeding them any amount of nitrogen. You can see there is still plenty in all of thsoe green leaves to be used up! let them yellow and fall off! then harvest.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Greenrocket, I hope you have alot of space for those clones. They will get out of control very fast. I have a few, and it doesn't take long before you are taking clones of clones because they grow so fast.

BigHerb, and The End, do you guys understand what happens when leaves turn yellow? Its chlorophyll degrading and not being replaced because there is not enough N to maintain chlorophyll production as well as bud production.

If you deprive your plant of N, the buds will pull it from the leaves to feed their growth. The buds are a sink for nutrients, and they dont magically grow and swell without Nitrogen.

I dont buy it that plants fed N will take longer to flower in Greenrockets case. He needs to find the level between providing enough N to feed the growth of the buds and to maintain chlorophyll production, and not exceed that level as too much N can inhibit flowering.

Right now, by allowing leaves to turn yellow and die, he's negatively impacting his yield, so it is a problem.


Greenrocket, I just looked at your pics again and I only see yellowing on the leaves nearest the lights. I have 3 Skunk Haze of Sams in flowering at day 76, and they've all gotten bleaching, and pale yellow leaves because they were too close to the lights. They are more sensitive to light than other strains Ive got flowering. I keep mine at 30-32 inches away from my 600w HPS. Any closer and they become bleached, and start to become necrotic starting at the tips, along with interveinal chlorosis.

 

[Chief Rbud]

something else you may want to consider is that pure sativas, especially long flowering varieties often dont get amber trichomes, they will have "harvest windows" where all the trichs are cloudy, and then if left longer they will put out new bud growth and the best time to chop is in the next window when they are all cloudy again. something to consider when growing tais.

 

[Chief Rbud]

beautiful plant by the way, love the way it looks!

 

[Rusty420]

sound info right there...hold the N, 10/14...superb grow man!

 

[Greenrocket]

looks great

wat are you feeding her ?

remember the yellowing of the fans leaves is a natural process toward the end of the flowering phase especially wen you feed a high P K bloom fertilizer low in N,if you continue too feed you should exspect another 4 weeks or soo ,the yellowing IMO is not bad at all and doesnt look to be a problem ,id continue a guano or watever for a week at most then molasses and plain waterings


1luvbigherb

Gday bigherb, The local shop didnt have any ripen so all I brought this stuff called Diamond Nectar its "derived from Phosphoric Acid and Potassium Hydroxide". Just some of this formula and plain water.

 

[Greenrocket]

I 2nd Bigherb, If you are planning on giving them the axe within the next couple weeks, dont worry about feeding them any amount of nitrogen. You can see there is still plenty in all of thsoe green leaves to be used up! let them yellow and fall off! then harvest.

Will do.

 

[Greenrocket]

Greenrocket, I hope you have alot of space for those clones. They will get out of control very fast. I have a few, and it doesn't take long before you are taking clones of clones because they grow so fast.

BigHerb, and The End, do you guys understand what happens when leaves turn yellow? Its chlorophyll degrading and not being replaced because there is not enough N to maintain chlorophyll production as well as bud production.

If you deprive your plant of N, the buds will pull it from the leaves to feed their growth. The buds are a sink for nutrients, and they dont magically grow and swell without Nitrogen.

I dont buy it that plants fed N will take longer to flower in Greenrockets case. He needs to find the level between providing enough N to feed the growth of the buds and to maintain chlorophyll production, and not exceed that level as too much N can inhibit flowering.

Right now, by allowing leaves to turn yellow and die, he's negatively impacting his yield, so it is a problem.


Greenrocket, I just looked at your pics again and I only see yellowing on the leaves nearest the lights. I have 3 Skunk Haze of Sams in flowering at day 76, and they've all gotten bleaching, and pale yellow leaves because they were too close to the lights. They are more sensitive to light than other strains Ive got flowering. I keep mine at 30-32 inches away from my 600w HPS. Any closer and they become bleached, and start to become necrotic starting at the tips, along with interveinal chlorosis.

Hello Dave,

I know what you mean but I havent seen it happen on these plants. The Skunk x Haze just grew more stems when under heat stress. Its hard to see by those pics but the leaves have yellowed from bottom to top. All the lower fan leaves have yellowed and fallen off. That happened really quick as soon as I stopped the food over a couple of days. Now the yellowing has slowed so hopefully the plant will ripen up over the next week during the flush. I was recommended some food called Diamond Nectar its "derived from Phosphoric Acid and Potassium Hydroxide". Ill have to look up exactly what it does I think I have these clones under control this time, I have tipped them twice so now its just a crazy bush.

Chief Bud
"something else you may want to consider is that pure sativas, especially long flowering varieties often dont get amber trichomes, they will have "harvest windows" where all the trichs are cloudy, and then if left longer they will put out new bud growth and the best time to chop is in the next window when they are all cloudy again. something to consider when growing tais. "

Thanks, that is one of the answers I have been looking for.

Rusty 420, cheers mate.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Another explanation for lower leaves yellowing and falling off is moisture stress symptoms. Any time I under-water my ladies, the lower leaves will yellow, go limp, and either fall off or become completely shriveled up. They require lots of water each day, and yours are even bigger than mine, and I imagine their water needs are very high.

 

[Greenrocket]

Another explanation for lower leaves yellowing and falling off is moisture stress symptoms. Any time I under-water my ladies, the lower leaves will yellow, go limp, and either fall off or become completely shriveled up. They require lots of water each day, and yours are even bigger than mine, and I imagine their water needs are very high.

It was a fairly high about 6 or 7 liters a feed each and they would be dry by the next watering. They would be drinking less than half that now which makes me think (hope) that the plants are using the food to ripen up. Id like to pull the plant out for some good pics but I cant move it because it sways all over the place.

 

[bigherb]

BigHerb, and The End, do you guys understand what happens when leaves turn yellow? Its chlorophyll degrading and not being replaced because there is not enough N to maintain chlorophyll production as well as bud production

by no means am i an expert , i dont hav much experience i lov to hear opinions

i thought N wasnt nescessary or during the end of flowering,especially at this stage

why you you worry bout the leaves if your focus is now on the bud ?

Another explanation for lower leaves yellowing and falling off is moisture stress symptoms. Any time I under-water my ladies, the lower leaves will yellow, go limp, and either fall off or become completely shriveled up

this is a first ,i havnt experienced this myself ,from a depeletion of nitrogen caused by heavy rain ihav seen leaves yellow but not fall off


1luvbigherb

 

[Dave Coulier]

by no means am i an expert , i dont hav much experience i lov to hear opinions

i thought N wasnt nescessary or during the end of flowering,especially at this stage

why you you worry bout the leaves if your focus is now on the bud ?




this is a first ,i havnt experienced this myself ,from a depeletion of nitrogen caused by heavy rain ihav seen leaves yellow but not fall off


1luvbigherb

I dont think GreenRocket has even said how long they've been flowering, so we dont even know where he's at in flowering. The 12 week time for this strain is very low. There are a few Thunk threads here, and people reported plants taking 20 weeks in these seeds. He might have another 6 weeks or more, who knows.

There is a big reason why you focus on the leaves before buds. The leaves will show the first signs of problems. Water stress, heat stress, nutrient stress, will all show in the leaves before the buds. This is why you want healthy green leaves, so that when they do take a turn for the worse, you'll know something is wrong.

The leaves act as a buffer for water and nutrients when these are in short supply. They also protect the buds from too much light as I have witnessed with my Skunk Hazes. The buds are always last to show signs of damage, so keep those leaves around as an alarm warning, and food reserves.

Here is a link that will describe more roles of N for plants.

Now onto under-watering. When the plants supply of water is limited, it will start removing water from the lower leaves to supply it to the top of the plant(apical dominance). When this water is pulled out of the leaves it loses its turgidity and collapses(wilting). This is the point where the green leaves start to go yellow if water isn't restored soon enough. If water isn't applied soon enough, the leaves will completely go yellow, and fall off, or sometimes stay attached and it shrivels up dry.