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In 2014, Pot States Will Be Growing Like Weeds

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In 2014, Pot States Will Be Growing Like Weeds
NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- The economics of legalizing marijuana for recreational use has several states watching Colorado and Washington to see if revenue can grow like a weed. The latest member of the club is Portland, Maine, which just legalized pot within the city limits. A city ordinance went into effect on Friday, Dec. 6 that allows possession up to 2.5 ounces. It's the first city on the East Coast to legalize recreational use of marijuana.

"It's like the onset of casino gambling," says Alan Bochstein, founder of the 420 Investor. Colorado and Washington are the first states to legalize recreational use of marijuana and the money is as green as the weed.



Colorado's Amendment 64 was expected to save $12 million a year for reduced criminal costs and generate $32 million in new revenue. Washington state says it can save $23 million a year on criminal costs, but thinks the business could deliver up to $530 million, a much higher number than the other states partly because it includes marijuana tourism estimates.

All in all, it's no wonder other states are jonesing for this new found revenue.
The states are approaching legalization from two different angles: medicinal use and recreational use. States using the medicinal marijuana approach employ varying degrees of enforcement. Illinois passed a medical marijuana bill that is one of the strictest in the country. Patients can't just go to a "doc in a box" for a patient card, they have to be a long time patient of a doctor to receive their card. California is known for its very lax medicinal enforcement where a headache qualifies you as a patient.

Quite a few states are entering the medicinal arena, including:

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Minnesota -- This state had several bills introduced this year. Senate Bill 1641 permits medical marijuana and authorizes cities to enact zoning regulations to address dispensaries. House Bill 1818 also permits medical marijuana use and authorizes rulemaking and fees. A separate measure, House File 508, doesn't legalize marijuana, but instead gives a defense for medicinal use.
New York -- Where you can smell the chiba wafting as you walk down the city streets. Newly elected New York City Mayor Bill DeBlasio is in favor of legalization. Two Senate Bills and one Assembly Bill were filed this year. SB 1682 legalizes pot possession of up to eight ounces and is mostly concerned with organizations, while SB 4406 and Assembly Bill 6357 deals with the patients.
Pennsylvania -- The Keystone state may become the Key Stoned state. It has both a Senate Bill 770 and a House Bill 1181 that provide for the medical use of marijuana.
Meanwhile, other states are skipping the medicinal route altogether and jumping right into recreational.

Here are the next states expected to say "don't bogart that joint."
Alaska -- John Davis, founder of the Northwest Patient Center says the polling is there to support it, with 54% in favor. Alaska removed the penalties for possessing pot in 1975, so they were ahead of the game. But then in the 1990s an anti-cannabis law was passed, but it wasn't enforced. The Marijuana Policy Project is gathering signatures in Alaska to qualify an initiative for the August 2014 primary election that would make possession legal and regulate it in a similar fashion to alcohol. "A lot of people just realize the writing's on the wall," said Davis.
Arizona -- This conservative state only has 37% of the population opposing decriminalization, with 56% in favor. It was the 15<SUP>th</SUP> state to approve marijuana for medicinal purposes. Initially Gov. Jan Brewer opposed it, but then relented. Arizona politician and former marine Ruben Gallego announced he will introduce legislation to legalize marijuana for those 21 and older next year. Davis said most supporters prefer the legislation to land in a presidential election year, because they believe this brings out the youth vote. However, in states where the polling more heavily favors legalizing recreational use, they are pushing to get into the 2014 elections.
California -- A new poll by San Francisco-based Tulchin Research shows a majority want to relax laws against marijuana use and tax it, with 65% in favor of legalization and regulation. This state shows how quickly the public is accepting the idea because in 2010 only 53% felt that way. California has already benefited financially from medicinal marijuana which has potentially raised more than $100 million a year in tax revenue for the state, according to th California Board of equalization. The ACLU announced a new panel headed by California Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom to draft a possible 2016 ballot measure, preferring to wait for the presidential election year.
Oregon -- In November, Oregon's Senate Judiciary Chairman Floyd Prozanski presented legislation that would ask voters if they wanted to legalize marijuana for adults 21 and over. There was already an initiative filed with the elections division that would skip the step of having to gain signatures to qualify the issue for a voting ballot. If the state goes the legislative route, it would cover rules and regulations, like oversight and taxation. Either way, it looks like Oregon is moving full steam ahead.

There are a few states bucking the trend. Montana, for instance, remains a question mark. Davis believes Montana will follow its western brothers, but the state is actually passing very strict driver impairment laws. Davis said that a majority of voters support decriminalization; however the legislators are actively working against easing its strict medicinal laws.
Illinois passed a medical marijuana bill that is one of the strictest in the country, issuing cards only to those who are longstanding patients of the prescribing doctor. Reversing course entirely, Ohio introduced House Bill 153 that actually repeals the medical use of marijuana.
Once more states go recreational, the next big hurdle for the green revolution will banking. Most marijuana growers and dispensaries can't currently take standard business deductions for a cannabis company according to tax provision 280e. Then, there's the simple issue of daily banking. Marijuana is still considered a controlled substance by the Federal government. Banks aren't morally opposed to dealing with these customers says Davis, but its small potatoes to them and they don't want to anger their regulators for a miniscule piece of business. That may begin to change since Bank of America (BAC_) said it would take pot revenue in Washington. They just said "yes."
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vostok

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It's like a family of dysfunctional brothers and sisters, where one brother does not want to upset the cart for fear of retribution from others, as in the fall of the USSR, etc etc, only goes to show how efficient government really is, democratic or not...?
The mean average will see this as but another form of taxation with politicians encouraging brewers and tobacconists to get in on the act, resulting these days as the wobbly weired days of decriminalization, but the best strains, before full on commercialization
 

DankSide

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Sign of the times! We are reaching a point where there is no going back to the old ways. Tax incentives will keep prices up. People can now pursue this as a real profession and not live in shadows.

Brochstein also has good tips for current public MJ stocks.
 

supermanlives

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legalizing wont bring as much cash as expected in tax unless its cheap . the blackmarket will take a lot away if its taxed too high. how will they know where ya got your shit from? rather fucked up for maine to legalize and then try to prosecute gypsy. i do love maine tho an a bit back did a lot of business on congress street i think it was.north maine rules anything millonocket an north is heaven
 

DrZin978

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I hope this keeps spreading. I'm super excited that My state (in the northeast) is also considering legalization for 2016. The sooner I can grow it on my property for recreation without fear of legal reprise, the better!

Legalization will definitely change the way the business works; this includes bringing prices down. I think that the morality of the issue (Why are we jailing these people), combined with the idea that people should be able to do this on their own land outweighs the fact that it will become a more difficult industry to compete in.
 

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legalizing wont bring as much cash as expected in tax unless its cheap . the blackmarket will take a lot away if its taxed too high. how will they know where ya got your shit from? rather fucked up for maine to legalize and then try to prosecute gypsy. i do love maine tho an a bit back did a lot of business on congress street i think it was.north maine rules anything millonocket an north is heaven

Gypsy's issue is with a FEDERAL indictment out of ME. Not the state of ME being fucked up 9 ways to Sunday.

There are lots of reasons to have issue with state governments, but all of them small potatoes when compared to the federal PIG.

:joint:
 

TheCleanGame

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Colorado's Amendment 64 was expected to save $12 million a year for reduced criminal costs and generate $32 million in new revenue.

That's also not taking into account the losses in income that won't be had in Colorado.... because people won't be going to jail/prison for a plant.

Keep the ball rolling...

Keep it Clean! :D
 

HUGE

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Don't anyone get too excited. You still won't be able to grow your own. It seems like now rhey are switching from the "throw them in jail for growing because its illegal evil drug" to "throw tjem in jail for growing because they didn't pay tje lucense fee, improper zoning, over production" just look at the way WS, CA, AZ, NV laws have been moving. Stopping the home grow seems to be a prime directive.
 

Hydrosun

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FUCK them right in the ear!!! Grow as many as you want and DEMAND a jury trial. The feds are done with the 99+ mandatory minimum, and the states can not enpanel a jury that will convict a non violent cannabis grower for cultivating on their own land!

And please if your state calls you for jury duty attend, and acquit ANY and ALL nonviolent offenders.

:joint:
 

joe fresh

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would be nice if ppl would take a shit ton of seeds and throw them along the boarders of all states that have medical or legal laws...inconspicuously at first, but over a year or 2 these plants breed, spread pollen and drop seeds...the ogv't would be spending more time erradicating the wild patches that grow everywhere than busting actual ppl who are growing it....just like the over grow movement once talked about...
 

mack 10

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i like the sound of this.
Let's hope its the USA who sets herb free, kinda funny as they enslaved it.
Soon enough some country will say what the fuck USA? you made the world sign up to your drug convention yet its legal in 2 states with more to come... How's that possible?
 

saluki

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i like the sound of this.
Let's hope its the USA who sets herb free, kinda funny as they enslaved it.
Soon enough some country will say what the fuck USA? you made the world sign up to your drug convention yet its legal in 2 states with more to come... How's that possible?


This is from Wikipedia page titled "Cannabis in Uruguay."

Legalization

"The cultivation, sale, and consumption of cannabis was legalized on 10 December 2013 by a 16–13 vote in the Senate.<sup id="cite_ref-reuters_3-1" class="reference"></sup>The country has 120 days to propose its plans through the Institute for the Regulation and Control of Cannabis, which will oversee the marketplace for cannabis. Julio Calzada, Secretary-General of Uruguay’s National Drug Council, explained in a December 2013 interview that the government will be responsible for regulating the production side of the process: "Companies can get a license to cultivate if they meet all the criteria. However, this won’t be a free market. The government will control the entire production and determine the price, quality, and maximum production volume."<sup id="cite_ref-16" class="reference"></sup>
Under the new law, people are allowed to buy up to 40 grams (1.4 oz) of cannabis from the Uruguayan government each month. Users have to be 18 or older and be registered in a national database to track their consumption. Cultivators are allowed to grow up to 6 crops at their homes each year and not surpass 480 grams (17 oz). Registered smoking clubs are allowed to grow 99 plants annually. Buying cannabis is prohibited to foreigners and it is illegal to move it across international borders.<sup id="cite_ref-17" class="reference"></sup>
Other countries have decriminalized cannabis consumption, while others have authorized its use for medical purposes; Uruguay is the first country in the world to legalize the whole process, from its cultivation, selling, and buying to consumption.<sup id="cite_ref-18" class="reference"></sup>The law intends to reduce the profit that drug trafficking creates for organized crime, as well as reducing the drug-related violence and the social problems associated with it.<sup id="cite_ref-19" class="reference"></sup>Uruguay has one of the lowest murder rates in the region (though by some estimates, crime was slightly increasing in 2013)."





Uruguay looks like it has become the first though I do not understand the no foreigners clause.


I can't wait till the USA fully accepts and legalizes cannabis. Most of the worlds law enforcement organizations are influenced by the US DEA when it comes to drug enforcement, it will be a domino effect country to country after full legalization.
 

Jhhnn

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Don't anyone get too excited. You still won't be able to grow your own. It seems like now rhey are switching from the "throw them in jail for growing because its illegal evil drug" to "throw tjem in jail for growing because they didn't pay tje lucense fee, improper zoning, over production" just look at the way WS, CA, AZ, NV laws have been moving. Stopping the home grow seems to be a prime directive.

I think you're right, which is why activists need to specifically include personal growing provisions in all initiatives.

They're now part of the Colorado State Constitution, and can't be legislated away. It's an absolutely enormous win for legalization, an anchor in respectability that will truly endure. It means no going back.
 

RoadRash

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Gypsy's issue is with a FEDERAL indictment out of ME. Not the state of ME being fucked up 9 ways to Sunday.

There are lots of reasons to have issue with state governments, but all of them small potatoes when compared to the federal PIG.

:joint:


I still remember the summer of 1989. If I have my facts right, the US gov. sent US military copters into Norcal to persecute Growers.

Oct. 26, 1989 was Operation Green Merchant. The US gov. used UPS records to go after Growers. It was a time when it was better to not drive to a store, but to park a few blocks away.

Part of the history, I think, is that Bush41 was visiting Colombia whining about their cocaine 'problem', the Colombian President made a comment about, "Well, you have Americans growing pot all over * " - somewhere, I don't want to name it or dwell on it, it's just part of the history.


Of course, there are some locales that fully embrace the Federal BS and crack down ... OK well, I wasn't planning to rant about it :peacock:



If news articles in the US media could bring themselves to mention the widespread use of Marijuana in medicine before 1937 (and Cocaine and Opium) ... well that means our grandparents and great-grandparents, if they ever went to the doctor & got a prescription, good chance it was a preparation of Cannabis and/or Cocaine and/or Opium.

(I think Cannabis & Cocaine & Opium were the 3 most widely used prescription drugs before Harry Anslinger came along ... I could be wrong ... ICMag cannabis historians are very welcome to correct me if I have any facts wrong.)


Which would also mean that other 'Western' countries also consumed cannabis widely until about 80-90 years ago.

It would be great to see a discussion of this in the Western media.

Phil Robertson's mother probably used Cannabis, but may not have known that's what it was.


OK I got a little carried away there. :tiphat:
 

huligun

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Something that should be addressed is that some companies can still drug test for marijuana use despite it being legal. In Seattle police can smoke it now I think, but other companies can still defer to federal law in denying people employment that participate in something that voted in to be legal. I hope there are some lawsuits to change that.
 

monkey5

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Jury Nulification!!!

Jury Nulification!!!

FUCK them right in the ear!!! Grow as many as you want and DEMAND a jury trial. The feds are done with the 99+ mandatory minimum, and the states can not enpanel a jury that will convict a non violent cannabis grower for cultivating on their own land!

And please if your state calls you for jury duty attend, and acquit ANY and ALL nonviolent offenders.

:joint:
Jury Nulification! Thank you for posting this Hydrosun!! monkey5
 

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