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theherbalizor

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Ok, so we update. Plants still on 3.0 ec. Hand fed via syringe 5 x a day, 30 ml shots each plant, and go thru the table 4-6 times a feed.

Will be in their final home this time tomorrow.

Looking pretty healthy to me. Def not going to be waiting long to flick them. Thursday or maybe Monday, see if they rooting in ok


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theherbalizor

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Hey Herb, Hundred gram oz is out the game currently, he lost his password too, last time I msged him
He might even pop in if I mention your back and doing well.
Best success with the grow buddy.

hey man, ah that’s a shame. Hope he’s well! And good to see you here
Nice and tidy and a sweet little camera to check on the girls Nice one theherbalizor :good:

ah, it can and will be A lot tidier. That fan needs going in under table. Attached to hePa. Scrog frame going in mid next week, then flip. And tidy up some more. Will get some proper pics. Maybe do a private YouTube ill share with you all.
Wow. Proper lab conditions 🙂 I like the cCtv vibe makes it feel naughty🥳
Now that was my plan. Should be able to leave a jar of agar out and it not culture, or not fast anyway. Hepa. Pco, bpi, high voltage plasma… all the good stuff.
 

ForTheLove

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ah, wd40. Now that would be amazing. She did me goo for A few runs but started to get a bit weird and drop loads of yield. Others kept running her as she was still good, but no way the plant that it was when I first got her. Shed give 15 oz of the most disgusting offensive gas from one plant. Wonder if hundred gram oz is still around, as he was the original holder of her I bbelieve.
Ahh man, you Do learn sumin new every day!.... HGO
Glad others online knew bout that STANK she gave off!... It was😷🤤
@azad got the info! Appreciated growmie....... Could this thread draw up anymore Phoenix's ?🤞

With all these (what I consider, IC Mag Og's) in this thread I feel honored have any relevant input😄..... Making me feel like the lil newbie again!.... But with more scars & less hair 😄💚
 

theherbalizor

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Just back from the facility to check on rooting. Happy to say, firmly locked into their 1 gal quick fills. Not bad at all. Getting flipped to flower on Wednesday after we build and install scrog frame. Finally get all the clip on ac infinity fans running. And perminant par meter in place. Also was planning on getting chiller in today but they sent wrong hosing. Which gave us time instead to lag the tank as the thermal dynamics of keeping a cold res in a hot room are not good. Also need to lag all feed pipes as getting condensate on them. But that's a quick job for my mate.

For now a quick couple pics....

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theherbalizor

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Data baby - the one line in yellow that’s much higher than the others is the ec of a quick fill that didn’t get an extra 1 gal pushed thru it. That’s the salts from where the coconuts were grown. Always fully flush thru your quickfills. And slowly, over hours, not a quick few lts poured thru… capilary action is your friend. Channelling isn’t.
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Data baby - the one line in yellow that’s much higher than the others is the ec of a quick fill that didn’t get an extra 1 gal pushed thru it. That’s the salts from where the coconuts were grown. Always fully flush thru your quickfills. And slowly, over hours, not a quick few lts poured thru… capilary action is your friend. Channelling isn’t. View attachment 19145025

Hey man, I love these updates with real time data, I’ve been venturing deeper down the steering rabbit hole for a while now, just out of curiosity really.

Saw your post on IG about bringing everything back up to FC to fix the issue with that one plant that got a heavy dry back causing pwEC to spike. Fixing it with lots of runoff is key like you said, might be more economical to individually flush that one first though if possible, before bringing everything back up to FC ready for stretch.

It seems that one’s ability to precisely adjust pwEC to achieve certain responses during stretch and bulk is what it’s all about, without letting pwEC swing too much to cause quality-reducing stress. Still so much learning and experimenting to be done though which is what makes it so interesting IMO.

Plants look great, they’ve gone from torture chamber to a space station grow laboratory. 👍

Peace
 

theherbalizor

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Hey man, I love these updates with real time data, I’ve been venturing deeper down the steering rabbit hole for a while now, just out of curiosity really.

Saw your post on IG about bringing everything back up to FC to fix the issue with that one plant that got a heavy dry back causing pwEC to spike. Fixing it with lots of runoff is key like you said, might be more economical to individually flush that one first though if possible, before bringing everything back up to FC ready for stretch.

It seems that one’s ability to precisely adjust pwEC to achieve certain responses during stretch and bulk is what it’s all about, without letting pwEC swing too much to cause quality-reducing stress. Still so much learning and experimenting to be done though which is what makes it so interesting IMO.

Plants look great, they’ve gone from torture chamber to a space station grow laboratory. 👍

Peace
Hey bro,

yes, who doesn’t love data. And it certainly is a rabbit hole. Can be a bit daunting at first as you kind of look for absolutes, then you realise absolutes don’t really exist, for many reasons.

But yes being able to see the issue with this block is great. And it wasn’t that it dried back hard, it’s just didn’t get an extra gallon of feed flushed thru it to push out the salts that come already in the coco. This would def cause a ph spike in mid flower and likely some lockouts.

and yes, modulation of plant growth thru stressors like drought response and ec spiking to encourage faster bud set, less stretch and leaf, and towards the end to encourage senescence along with vpd changes of course.

And all plants needed bringing back to FC today, which has been done. And then tomorrow before I ditch this tank I’ll just flush that one pot thru to bring its ec in line.
 

theherbalizor

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Some more data. I’ll post a cctv cam pic tomorrow from day 5. And I’ll go up there on Thursday for a proper update.

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This is the data from the substrate sensors in 3 of my 18 plants. I have an Aroya Teros 1 in each opposite corner plant and 1 in a plant in the middle ( I’m probably going to change the corner plant sensors to match the middle one as the corners receive less light intensity and not representative of the population ). What this data tells me is a couple of things. One that the plant in the middle of tables is transpiring way harder than the outer edge plants visable via the much increased dry back. Secondly, these plants went onto flower four days ago. Fed an ec of 3. What I want to be seeing is a rise in the yellow line as the blue line falls. But I’m seeing the opposite. This tells me that the plants are drinking more than I can provide. So whilst still being driven generatively via long dry backs, the ec isn’t stacking. So tomorrow the feed is getting dumped and changed to 3.5 then maybe 4 ec on Thursday as they hit peak ppfd. But it also shows another issue. One plant. The one in the middle doesn’t respond at all to the first 4 irrigations. Not at all. This tells me that the dripper is likely blocked. So I have had my colleague add another line, remove this one. We tested the output and what should have been 250ml was 150ml. Fingers crossed tomorrow they will all react equally.
 

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Day 12 update... had to go up a few days earlier to give the unders a clear. You couldn't get more than 7 inches into the under canopy. These undercanopy lights have them growing like thickets...

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Looking Well Herb.. Under lights are something i aint ever tried so will be nice to see the outcome under there,. All the best ..:peek:

 
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