Ice and Grapefruit from FemaleSeeds

[Dr.Benway]

Hello.

I have 2 Ices and one Grapefruit going to flower. Ices are in 12 litres of soil and GF in 16l. My growing space is 60cm x 90 cm x 180cm (6 sq.ft) with 250w hps. Hoping to get 150 grams (You think I can make it?). Vegged 5 weeks, topped in 2+ and trained to have even canopy. They're now 8 days of 12/12. Well, here's some pics:


All together, Ices on front and GF on back


One Ice, other one is very similar.


Ice closer, nice and green.

Last grow was Bog's Super Sweet Cindy and I didn't appreciate it very much (I had 1 female in 6 seeds, ), so I wanted to so some FSeeds again (grown some GF, SS and NL before, GF is simply the best of those), had only good experience of them. I rather have only ladies so I can put them straight to the flowering pots. Last grow went shitty because of crappy soil and some issues with TotalGro gone old (3 years), so I really want to make it good as possible this time. I've had 150+g with 4 plants, so I don't know, we'll see.

Going to post more pics in during flowering if anyones interested.

Ben

 

[Guest]

Bogs or soma's strains dont compare to female seeds ice and grapefruit IMO,I've done nycd and sour bubble give me these two over those any day.I will keep the ice GF and WW FS pheno's in my garden indefinately,you're in for a treat.My only concern is 250W is not much light to flower those plants with,and GF may give you a stretch over the ice.GF during the day,its a perfect sativa/indica mix and ice in the evening when you dont need to get off the couch.

 

[Guest]

I will agree. Grapefruit is a very nice strain. The one too keep "just in case"

 

[robotwithdreams]

I was recently at a friends who is fortunate enough to have the grapefruit(pretty sure he got it from female seeds).If you get the short pheno you are in for a real delight. His short one is extremely thick and covered in trichs, and smells like grapefruit heaven. The tall one was much skinnier and did not smell as much.
Good luck

let us know how they come out

 

[Dr.Benway]

> My only concern is 250W is not much light to flower those plants with, GF may give you a stretch over the ice. <

Yeah, I'd surely have more with 400w, I actually borrowed one from friend to try it in my closet, temperature goes way too high. I can keep my 250w in 20cm from tops (30'C), but with 400w I have to have almost 50cm between plant tops and light to have same temperature. I really don't want to invest in cooltube, I rather go with 250w.

But question is: could I still yield more with 400w, even if I have to put it two times longer away from plants?

I've had 2 GF's before, and they didn't stretch much as I expected them to after reading some info. Both stayed short (topped plants), Skunk Special I had same time grew way taller. Don't know if it was more indica pheno or what, this one seems to be quite similar. I can also adjust the height of every plant, so no problems there.

 

[robotwithdreams]

imo, u lucked out if they are the short ones. Listen, do not worry about the 250. If it was my choice i would stick with the 250 and keep the temps reasonable rather than add another light and cause the temps to be out of the acceptable range. Especialy if you are having to keep the 400 more than a coupe feet away. Try to get the 250 close and trim the bottom shoots that are not getting much light.

 

[Dr.Benway]

Here's a bit update.

Gonna stick with 250, now 15cm to closest tops, all within 30cm. Light doesn't penetrate much to lower branches, but the space is limited anyways.

Plants have stretched quite a lot, trying to keep my canopy even:


All at day 12 of 12/12


Some Ice. Started to show pistils on tops 3 days later than Gf. 6 tops on one plant, and lots underneath the top leaves. Going to prune a bit, propably lowest third of plant. Only branches that don't get light, the leaves will fall by themselves eventually.


Some Gf tops. Is lighter green than Ice, but this pic does have lighter colour than it should too. Stretched more than Ice, but looks like shorter pheno anyways. Tied down to be at same level with I's, so lots of tops forming. Tops have long distance between nodes so it looks more like sativa than the others I had before. Will see, stretch is still going.

Doc

 

[Guest]

If its just slightly taller than the ice,you definately have the short GF pheno.Its slowly becoming my favorite,such a nice sativa indica mix absolutely perfect IMO.

 

[Guest]

Wow your plants are looking beautiful..
And your growing two strains I hope to.
I'll definitly stop by often!

 

[Dr.Benway]

15. days of 12/12, took one while watering and pruning, might as well post it here. Stretch seems to be slowing already on both strains.

 

[Guest]

nice healthy lookin plants. good luck.

 

[Dr.Benway]

Pic from 18. of 12/12:



Many budsites. GF on back seems to be ahead. It's in bigger pot also.

Should this be removed to diaries, I'm updating this more often that I intended to?

 

[Guest]

You're gonna love it believe me,the only mistake you made if you want to call it that is not ordering white widow also,the magnificent three!

 

[jojajico]

250 watts is a little lite on light (no pun intended). try to cram the plants under th elight and try to get some mylar if you dont aready have it that should help you to get tighter nugs.

 

[Dr.Benway]

250 watts is a little lite on light (no pun intended). try to cram the plants under th elight and try to get some mylar if you dont aready have it that should help you to get tighter nugs.

As I said earlier on this thread, tried with 400w and doesn't work in this closet of mine (without investing to cooltube).

 

[BadTicket]

Ooh hey Dr. Ben, nice grow u got going on here :smile:
Happy lookin girls, i'ma keep an eye on those ICE plants. Gotta agree with u guys the GF is off the hook

 

[Dr.Benway]

Welcome Bad Ticket. GF is amongst few I've grown more than once and I'm sure I'll do it again. Never had a bad plant from GF seed. Cannot say yet if Ice is worth keeping, it seems at least better than FS NL or SS, which I'm not going to grow again, both very average.

Ballastman, I don't know why I haven't tried FS WW yet. I was going to get it but then decided to go with Ice. Maybe when they get back on stock I'll get those also. I'd like to find another keeper from FS catalog. Next grow will be something else than FS though.

Dr.Benway

 

[Dr.Benway]

One pic update from day 22 of 12/12. Flowers grow nicely, on quick count Grapefruit has 12 good tops and 2 Ice have 6 each. Both strains have started to show some sugar in buds since last watering. Will get some close-ups in next update.



The soil I'm using is very good, it doesn't suck lots of water (so it has to be watered between 2 days), but is very light and airy. Plants haven't shown any defiencies even though I've fed them lightly. Couple of lowest leaves have yellowed, but they've got zero light since started to flower because the light don't penetrate that far. I use GHE TotalBloom only 3ml/l every watering, BioNova X-cel 1ml/l and fix the ph around 7.

 

[jojajico]

250 watts is a little lite on light (no pun intended). try to cram the plants under th elight and try to get some mylar if you dont aready have it that should help you to get tighter nugs.

As I said earlier on this thread, tried with 400w and doesn't work in this closet of mine (without investing to cooltube). Never had any problems with fluffy buds so I don't see the need for mylar, the white walls reflect light good enough. Should get 5 oz from this comparing to earlier grows.

I grow only for myself (+ samples for friends) and I've considered many times of buying 400w, cooltube and making of hydro, and decided to stick with this. This is my 12th grow now. I have a smaller cab I can use for vegging, so if I'm really efficient, I can have a harvest every 2+ months. But I really don't smoke that much so I don't even use the full capacity. I usually have harvest between 4 months, if I have trouble (like last time with Super Sweet Cindy, only 1 girl, yielded 2 oz) I grow more often.

So the conclusion: With my current consumption of bud the 250w is good enough. With 400w I could grow less often, but I'd need to buy cooltube and probably better ventilation also. Or then I could just have more yield, but I really don't know what to do with it. Okay, I could smoke more, but I really have more important things in life so no time for that. I could give it to friends but many of them grow also. I could sell it, but I already have enough money from my work and have a principle for not to sell bud. I really don't want to have any evidence for that in case I get busted someday.

If somebody read this far, thanks. Pics coming in few days.

Doc

its not the 250 watt that is the problem the problem is the space. its too little light to cover the space that youve got. the solution is easy.... grow in a smaller space. now you may not be able to do that thats why i said place the plants directly under the bulb. u can grow dank off a 250 you just have to make sur ethat there is enough light for the plants and that light isnt stretched out over too great an area.

 

[Dr.Benway]

its not the 250 watt that is the problem the problem is the space. its too little light to cover the space that youve got. the solution is easy.... grow in a smaller space. now you may not be able to do that thats why i said place the plants directly under the bulb. u can grow dank off a 250 you just have to make sur ethat there is enough light for the plants and that light isnt stretched out over too great an area.

The old cab I had was 3 square feet and I could only get ~90g, it didn't matter if I had 1 or 3 plants. With this cab I can get ~160 g out of 2 - 4 plants. So in my style of grow this works best, there's simply just more space for bigger pots which equals bigger plants.