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Just watched an episode of The Closer that was about dispencaries
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I thought dispensary experiences were suppose to be pleasant
Who determines whom is seriously ill? Not really for myself or you to make that judgement, its a doctor's call, and the call has been made by the time they buy from a dispensary, no?
So now you are arguing that cannabis recommended by a doctor is not medicine. Not very convincing.
Are you against Prop215?
HempHut
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Aspirin is an anticoagulant which is prescribed for people who are at risk from blood clots -- people who have specific medical conditions, i.e. people who have already had a heart attack.
Someone with no specific condition simply downing aspirin everyday "just in case" is not using it medically.
Remember, my claim isn't that cannabis can't be a medicine -- it's that, counter to your assertion, not all cannabis use is medical.
I'm curious, why is it so important that all cannabis use be medical? Is it simply because in certain areas the law permits medical use and you want all people in those areas to be legal? If so, then just say so. It's the only reason I can see for trying to maintain the argument. As someone with a criminal record because of pot, I have no problem with that admittance, but I think it's better to work for full recreational legalization than try and shoe horn everyone into the medical category when clearly that's not appropriate -- lots of people just find it fun to get high.
Did anyone happen to catch the "National Geographic's" show about" Marijuana" what left wing bullshit that was?.. One of the points they made that really made me laugh was the part about it causing heart attacks lol lol. Now that shit is really funny. I happen to know a Cardiologist that might have a few things to say about that bullshit.I would really like to know who is paying this show and why is it so left wing and frankly WRONG with it's info. It's this bullshit propaganda that should NOT be allowed in the airways period...Not that it surprises me but it is really sad that it's these guys doing this. Headband707
PS..best to watch it stoned for a really good laugh though ..lol....
PS..best to watch it stoned for a really good laugh though ..lol....
reefer madness is "left wing bullshit"?!
Saw a bit of it, and we were thinking it was fairly weed-friendly till they threw that bit in...
Your leaps of logic are pretty entertaining. No, I am very much in support of 215. The only reason that 215 has worked for the general populace to get rec's is because of medical confidentiality. We've all read it on here a hundred times if we've read it once - "Just go get a rec, you can get one for anything". This is obviously not what the voters intended and it was only a matter of time before this level of permissiveness created a backlash. As with anything, when people find a loophole and start taking advantage of it in large enough numbers to call attention to it, the loophole will eventually be closed.
There is absolutely no reason other than a current laxity in the law to try and force all mj use to fit under the umbrella of "medical". It should be legal across the board, and interestingly, almost was with Prop 19. A 4% swing of the vote would have put us there, and while I think that it probably would have brought down the current Federal response even more quickly, it would most likely already be on the way to the SCOTUS. When growers and dispensary owners are lobbying against mj legalization, you know that things have gotten seriously twisted up!
I can buy your argument that smell can effect neighbors rights. Would I want a pig or dairy farm right next to my house? No. Would I want my neighbors growing some plants and not growing others because the smell is unpleasant, or the plants cause an allergic reaction? YES. Because plant smells / pollen can cause allergies or be unpleasant. These are issues for a city or county to tackle not the federal or state government, and counties are using their regulatory power to limit growers rights.
The biggest problems with local zoning / nuisance regulations is discrimination or infindgement on individuals rights. There is room for legitimate debate and discussion about the collateral effects of out door cannabis grows, however what one does in the privacy of their own home is their business. Keep the plants and smell inside and all should be fine.
I can not buy your argument that fear of rippers can effect neighbors rights. You have no right to restrict your neighbor from parking a Ferrari in front of his house or stop him from wearing hundreds of thousands of dollars of jewelry in public. Both of these materialistic displays could draw rippers to my neighbor, but nevertheless I have no right to prohibit is actions.
The law is certainly not favorable to cannabis growers. Doing what ever they want and OverGrowing the planet is the most farsighted and considerate thing anyone can do for the current generation living under immoral prohibition. OverGrowing also is the best way to help future generation escape the immorality of this unjust prohibition.
My rights are not superior to my neighbor's and his are not superior to mine. The fine line a noble society seeks to navigate is that of maximum freedom with the minimum intrusion necessary to protect the rights of the individual. As I see it now we are experiencing maximum intrusion by the government for an ever diminishing minimum level of freedom. My solution is civil disobedience and OverGrowing, only time will tell how effective it is.
I would agree with almost everything that you said here, Hydro. My point about the rippers was that they can bring about attention from LEO, which isn't something that I desire, and they have brought about an armed response from the grower numerous times. I think that we can probably agree that slinging lead around the neighborhood has the potential to negatively affect your neighbor.
We were laughing our asses off with the way they were discribing how cannabis works in the brain No real reason just these nice pictures of the brain firing lol pretty weak shit. Not sure where they got there material(old college library) but damn that was bad.Then the whole heart attack bullshit. I guess I could go into the silia and how this really works but that would take a bit of typing . Needless to say they are full of SHIT!! and should not be spreading bullshit like this. There are pre-existing conditions that ppl have that are actually related to the lungs which is why smoke any smoke is bad. So is Morphine, Oxy and so on. Cannabis is so low on this list of bad things I still do not understand the reason they fight so hard to keep it down, beyond getting cash in their pockets. peace out Headband 707
