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I hate the US healthcare system

Yoga is great for back pain (it's the reason I have been doing it for 15 years...otherwise I wouldn't be able to put my socks on in the morning).....the reason it works is that is strengthens your core which in turn helps better support your spine. Yoga also teaches you correct posture which helps keep the pressure off worn out discs. Yoga also will help develop suppleness in your hamstrings which will help with keeping the nerves functioning well. Yoga will help relive stress which is a back pain trigger for many people. Check out you tube, there's lots of yoga videos there specifically for helping those with back pain but I would suggest this beginner's yoga instruction video by Al Hall check it out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbyHCkNEOKo or search Youtube : "yoga for beginners Al Hall" and you will also get there.

Note though yoga won't magically "cure" worn out discs or pinched nerves, but it will help by taking pressure off what is causing the pain by correctly aligning the spine..but you have to do it regularly, don't push yourself too hard too early, focus on complete breathing and the correct alignment or form, less so on how far you can move into the asana...each time you practice, you will be able to go further into the movement.

One of the good things about yoga and lower back pain is that you will feel positive results from the first time you follow along with the above beginners video...in my case it was amazing, I went from being in such pain that I couldn't sleep without waking up in pain to being pain free after a few sessions.

Take control of your own health by going for daily walk, do 3 or 4 sessions of yoga (or weight training, swimming, running, table tennis etc etc) each week, eat fresh fruit and veggies daily and less processed/packaged food, stop eating sugar and get some morning sun is a really good beginning.

I will give you a tip for back pain/injury.

Find something you can hang on, like a pull up bar or whatever.

Grab hold of it and hang there as long as you can, it's like being in traction, will stretch your spine out a bit.
It does work.
 

St. Phatty

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I have a pulled muscle on the right side of my neck.

Plus some thing in the Trapezius area.

Friend told me that this is similar to a whiplash injury.

Basically trying to do all the heavy lifting with my left hand.


Ever notice how older people tend to talk more about their

'minor health issues' ?
 
I have a pulled muscle on the right side of my neck.

Plus some thing in the Trapezius area.

Friend told me that this is similar to a whiplash injury.

Basically trying to do all the heavy lifting with my left hand.


Ever notice how older people tend to talk more about their

'minor health issues' ?

What you need to do is find a Chinese massager; don't go to a "massage with happy ending place", they don't know the pressure points or how to manipulate the shoulder and neck.

You have to find an old Chinese guy who knows all the pressure points.
You will be caused pain, but I guarantee he will fix it.

One such guy, he grabbed my chin and back of head, twisted quickly to the side, and man, there was such a loud crunch and crack sounded like a tree branch breaking.

And then back the other way and another loud crunch and crack.

But felt so good afterwards.
I love painful massage.

No Chinatown around where I live now unfortunately, just lots of happy ending places which I don't think do therepuetic massage and joint manipulation.
 

oct

Member
Fuck. The only reason I voted for trump was his stance on the healthcare reform, but it looks like Obamacare isn't going anywhere. I'm gonna head over to the unafforadble healthcare act page today and get signed up again. I just got my hernia quoted. $7500, lol the same as my deductible. I'm not even gonna turn it in to the insurance, just going fully out of pocket.
 

redlaser

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I have a pulled muscle on the right side of my neck.

Plus some thing in the Trapezius area.

Friend told me that this is similar to a whiplash injury.

Basically trying to do all the heavy lifting with my left hand.


Ever notice how older people tend to talk more about their

'minor health issues' ?

Not sure if it would be appropriate for your case, one of those deals where it's better to get professional opinions.
I've had whiplash twice and have stenosis in a couple spots on the neck, went through years of pain meds.
I finally went to dr. that does cortisone like shots in the trapezoid muscles in the neck, and P.T. that includes using a traction device for the neck.
Was able to get off opiates this way and it's more effective for me.
The traction device is called a neck-pro, 50$ online.
It's not for everybody but would help some people.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
Not sure if it would be appropriate for your case, one of those deals where it's better to get professional opinions.

I'm not interested in paying $6000 so some greedy Fvck can tell me to rest my neck.

Anyway, I rested it for about 2 months. No more hand-stand push-ups for another 2 months.

I also use the ladder to get out of the pool, instead of lifting myself out using my arms ... again to give the tendons a rest.


I think it helps to have lived in the US when healthcare was affordable ... which is sort of like admitting one's age :dance013:


I don't enjoy watching my own country's economy collapse, but that is what tends to happen when 17% of your income is extorted by a criminal group (17% of GNP = amount American's will spend on health care in 2017.)

Karl Denninger has some of the best articles I've seen on the subject.

He actually reads relevant case law, though his background is software entrepreneur.

http://market-ticker.org/
 

prune

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Fuck. The only reason I voted for trump was his stance on the healthcare reform, but it looks like Obamacare isn't going anywhere. I'm gonna head over to the unafforadble healthcare act page today and get signed up again. I just got my hernia quoted. $7500, lol the same as my deductible. I'm not even gonna turn it in to the insurance, just going fully out of pocket.

Lol, and you think you will be ahead of the game...

Years and years ago a coworker blew out a knee and needed surgery and months of recuperation. I had always recommended insurance to this guy, as we were basically un-insured scab labor, but he felt better with the money in his pocket.

Anyways, after he made it back to work I was dick enough to ask if he was going to spring for the insurance now, but just losing thousands of dollars wasn't enough of a lesson for this guy. His rational then was "Hey, I just paid for the operation - why would I get insurance now?"

I'm sure that sounds logical to a lot of people, but they forget that karma is a bitch - as Tim did, and sure enough he blew out his other knee just a few months later...
 
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I don't enjoy watching my own country's economy collapse, but that is what tends to happen when 17% of your income is extorted by a criminal group (17% of GNP = amount American's will spend on health care in 2017.)


If the US spent half as much on the military as it does then it would be able to afford to do what most western counties do - have no cost, low cost or affordable medical for all citizens.

It's simply wrong that any citizen of a first world country has to go into huge debt because they have a car accident or cancer.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
It's simply wrong that any citizen of a first world country has to go into huge debt because they have a car accident or cancer.


I literally cannot afford to swim in the ocean or ski, because I can't afford the wipeout (and because I have ended up in ER's in the past) ... the inevitable trip to the ER that comes about from enthusiastic participation in a sport.

I simply want to live in a nation where I can afford to ski Giant Slalom.

I don't expect anybody else to pay for it if I do something that gives me a skull fracture (one reason to avoid Downhill).

But Christ, I can handle a medium concussion - except for the medical cost.


The US has pretty much become a Banana Republic with Nukes.

In other nations, the cops can make life unliveable. In the US, it's the cost of medical care.

Just think of the cost of getting a woman pregnant - a normal cost of living life.

I can't afford to pay for a birth with complications (e.g. Prolapse) - in the US.

So it leaves me needing to ask the question - if an American couple delivers a baby in a hospital in Mexico, what is the infant's nationality ?
 

Floridian

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Once in awhile you catch a break

I couldn't agree more about a system based on referals by doctors that are mostly interested in making money on the system."I refer you to this specialist",you have to be stupid to think the two doctors are strangers,it's obvious to the person who is least conscious lol.I have always had good insurance in my trade,But had to stop working some time ago and take full time care of my mom.I have always been healthy but last year totally took me by surprise.In January I had to be hospitalized for a sucky case of pneumonia and again in June for a minor heart attack.Six days altogether put me in debt for many thousands.I should have been made aware By Florida Hospital at least in June about Hillsborough County healthcare.I learned about them from the great medical professionals in the Faulkenberg County Hilton,but that just another sucky story lol.Anyway,to my utmost surprise I was approved the same day I had 750 dollars of MRI's and sure enough,they came through for the majority of it.I have never thought I would be in the position to have to depend on some kind of a Gov't handout,But I fuckin am right now that's for sure.I guess what I'm trying to say is sometimes in some states or some counties,there really is some help if you seek it out.I don't like that others had to foot my bill which in reality is the deal,but whether you think it'll ever happen that you may be in my position,there are ways in some cases to not feel so fuckin ripped off by our system.
 

oct

Member
that's all I'm saying. I was just tired of paying $200 plus dollars a month for insurance I could never use! I literally couldn't use it because my deductible is $7500. I paid into Obamacare the first month it went into effect and all the way up until Jan 1 of this year. I paid thousands of dollars towards it and wasn't able to use it once. And I damn well would have liked/need to.
 

pop_rocks

In my empire of dirt
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...I don't like that others had to foot my bill which in reality is the deal,but whether you think it'll ever happen that you may be in my position...I have never thought I would be in the position to have to depend on some kind of a Gov't handout....

hey man, you paid into the system and are now asking for something back
its not like you never chipped in, just like we all do
/i would gladly pay my taxes so that other americans can have adequate health care

so why dont we have a public option ,where basic health coverage is guaranteed?
the problem is the "for profit" side seems to be calling the shots
 
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Buck-annaC

the problem is the "for profit" side seems to be calling the shots

well said.
just wait until our Baby Boomer generation explodes with the Hep C virus in which most don't even know they have and then have to start dulling out $1200USD a day for 1 pill over a 4 month course!!!!

Most Insurance Co's won't even cover Harvoni unless your already at stage 2 liver cirrhosis and then the co-pay is aprox:$1500USD a month.....who can afford that kind of money for a pill in the real world? I damn sure can't.

The BigPharma companies are the Death squads IMO. Until those A$$hats are controlled then nothing will change and I've been fighting these SOBs since 96 and it's only gotten worse over the years. We pay in more and more and we get much much less.

I actually fooled myself into thinking that when Obama came out with the "Affordable" Health Care that he was actually talking about making the prices cheaper in the medical world........lol...i'm the dumb ass on that one!!!! There is nothing affordable about it.
 

brown_thumb

Active member
hey man, you paid into the system and are now asking for something back
its not like you never chipped in, just like we all do
/i would gladly pay my taxes so that other americans can have adequate health care

so why dont we have a public option ,where basic health coverage is guaranteed?
the problem is the "for profit" side seems to be calling the shots

That's what Obama wanted but the ACA would have been killed by the Republicans. The ACA is a compromise to keep corrupt greedy selfish heartless politicians happy.
 

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