I Got In Some Serious Shi...Fuuuuu

[HempKat]

I don't know if this tip is for me or the group, but I stated that I do not drive impaired. The consequences are devastating and not worth the risk. Especially if you are in an injury accident.

However, the limits for DUI in Washington state are so low they could get you as impaired when you haven't smoked in several days, or so I am told. I forget what the actual limits are, I just hear everyone say that they are ridiculously low.

Again, I almost only smoke and drink at home once I am settled in for the day. I am not a teenager that spends all of his time impaired.

It was really just said in jest. I did not mean to imply that you do drive impaired. In all seriousness though all of the ways I've heard of to test for marijuana use, by far exceed the amount of time it's actually impairing you. So no test in my mind is fair since it potentially could find you guilty even though you were sober. Even the blood test. I am not sure but I seem to recall hearing the blood test can only detect a 6 hour window but when was the last time you still felt under the influence 6 hours later? Then also there is the whole issue of tolerance. As most of us have experienced, when you have lots of weed available to you, one can easily reach a point that what it takes you to get an average buzz would turn a person with a lower tolerance into a slobbering fool. I've heard they have a saliva test but I don't know accurate it is and again how can any test detect tolerance? So it would seem any conviction should require additional road side coordination/sobriety tests which would likely be as easily thrown out by a good lawyer as they can be with DUI for alcohol.

 

[armedoldhippy]

It was really just said in jest. I did not mean to imply that you do drive impaired. In all seriousness though all of the ways I've heard of to test for marijuana use, by far exceed the amount of time it's actually impairing you. So no test in my mind is fair since it potentially could find you guilty even though you were sober. Even the blood test. I am not sure but I seem to recall hearing the blood test can only detect a 6 hour window but when was the last time you still felt under the influence 6 hours later? Then also there is the whole issue of tolerance. As most of us have experienced, when you have lots of weed available to you, one can easily reach a point that what it takes you to get an average buzz would turn a person with a lower tolerance into a slobbering fool. I've heard they have a saliva test but I don't know accurate it is and again how can any test detect tolerance? So it would seem any conviction should require additional road side coordination/sobriety tests which would likely be as easily thrown out by a good lawyer as they can be with DUI for alcohol.

agreed. one size fits all tests for ANYTHING guarantee that some innocent people get drilled. what I think is needed is the complete removal of reward for the officer that makes the stop. no awards for number of arrests. put dash cams on all patrol cars. if there is no video evidence of the driver crossing a center line, a radar reading of him going over the limit, or other safety violation, then he should not be able to legally stop anyone. his "intuition" or "gut feeling" is bullshit! all that is code for "I didn't like his looks/car/ number of people in vehicle/time of day/where he pulled out from" coming into play. around here, LEO likes to park across from bars late at night, then ride someones ass until they either make a mistake or the cop pressures them into one. if they weave/cross a center line, I'm OK with the stop, IF you can show me on film.

 

[HOPS5K]

Update time...The info I gave you guys earlier was just what my public defender told me...most of it has came to pass with a couple positive notes...

On the DWAI...It's my 2nd offense, so I'm going to be doing like 15 days in jail starting tomorrow, possibly.

On the LB of weed, there is a waiver called a wobbler, that allows me to go on probation in lieu of jail time. Albeit, the probation is like 2 years...ugh..no jail good, but 2 years of prob. kinda sucks.

On the good side, if the judge allows a pre sentence investigation, I could start my new job and possibly get work release before I'm sentenced, but for 15 days maybe not a great idea...just wait and do the time and start my job afterwards. I was told with work release, I don't get full days or something served, so it's actually longer.

Anyways, I just thought I'd tell you guys what happened even though I already told you some stuff earlier, that was just what I originally heard and yes, some of it came true, but I don't think I can avoid 15 days in jail (15 served)...30 day sentence. I think 15 days is okay, though, I can handle it.

Talk to you guys soon

 

[redlaser]

Update time...The info I gave you guys earlier was just what my public defender told me...most of it has came to pass with a couple positive notes...

On the DWAI...It's my 2nd offense, so I'm going to be doing like 15 days in jail starting tomorrow, possibly.

On the LB of weed, there is a waiver called a wobbler, that allows me to go on probation in lieu of jail time. Albeit, the probation is like 2 years...ugh..no jail good, but 2 years of prob. kinda sucks.

On the good side, if the judge allows a pre sentence investigation, I could start my new job and possibly get work release before I'm sentenced, but for 15 days maybe not a great idea...just wait and do the time and start my job afterwards. I was told with work release, I don't get full days or something served, so it's actually longer.

Anyways, I just thought I'd tell you guys what happened even though I already told you some stuff earlier, that was just what I originally heard and yes, some of it came true, but I don't think I can avoid 15 days in jail (15 served)...30 day sentence. I think 15 days is okay, though, I can handle it.

Talk to you guys soon

Sounds like your lawyer is wanting you to plead guilty to something, weed related or not. Make sure you understand what could happen "if" you get caught with weed again.

 

[Midwest sticky]

Well at least you didn't get any real time hops. Glad to hear this.

 

[candyjack]

Update time...The info I gave you guys earlier was just what my public defender told me...most of it has came to pass with a couple positive notes...

On the DWAI...It's my 2nd offense, so I'm going to be doing like 15 days in jail starting tomorrow, possibly.

On the LB of weed, there is a waiver called a wobbler, that allows me to go on probation in lieu of jail time. Albeit, the probation is like 2 years...ugh..no jail good, but 2 years of prob. kinda sucks.

On the good side, if the judge allows a pre sentence investigation, I could start my new job and possibly get work release before I'm sentenced, but for 15 days maybe not a great idea...just wait and do the time and start my job afterwards. I was told with work release, I don't get full days or something served, so it's actually longer.

Anyways, I just thought I'd tell you guys what happened even though I already told you some stuff earlier, that was just what I originally heard and yes, some of it came true, but I don't think I can avoid 15 days in jail (15 served)...30 day sentence. I think 15 days is okay, though, I can handle it.

Talk to you guys soon

I'd prefer jail time over Probation, fuck having to piss for some pig. 2years of not smoking for?

goodluck man

 

[LEF]

Could have been worse.

Is the whizzinator/synthetic urine any good for passing urine tests ?

For those that dont know, its a rubber penis look a like that fills the cup with heated synthethic urine. Kit comes with heating pads and synth urine.

Can only imagine what could happen if you dont pass, maybe prison ?

 

[lumberjack.mr]

please the courts went as lightly as they did, wish it had been tossed. Glad to know your home is in tact, and you have employment waiting on you, to help you reset yourself afterwards.. Did they give your weed back? lol..
15 days is a nice break from reality. I know it doesn't comfort you any when you are in there, but if you have a good support network, and keep your cool, you'll be fine.
as I stated earlier; it is just a matter of attrition. cannabis will be legalized on a national level, and the point will be mute. You will be probably be able to petition the court to ex-sponge the matter from your public record, and have it done with prejudice- so it can not be reversed on you. Good luck ! Lj.mike

 

[DemonTrich]

probation people looks at your johnson while you pee (court ordered, probation, federal, state, all watch you pee, for a job or pre-employment physical its illegal to watch). using a devise to fool a test is a FELONY on its own, PLUS the max time you could have gotten instead of probation. good luck with that.

take the jail time, FVCK the paper. id do 30 -60 days easily vs 2yrs paper.

 

[HOPS5K]

I have to go to a Alcohol Eval. tomorrow..do they drug test at these things?

 

[MJPassion]

Not sure if they drug test for an alc eval.
No experience w that. lucky me.

Good luck over your next two years.

I've got a quote to ponder though...

"You have the right to remain silent. ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN BE USED AGAINST YOU IN A COURT OF LAW"

Therefore, silence IS golden.

The reason you have this Right is because of the Fifth. Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America. "YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT INCRIMINATE YOURSELF."

You cannot be forced to incriminate yourself even with a warrant. "Silence IS golden!"

 

[MJPassion]

Also, there are some terms you can use in encounters with officers that can send them running...

A couple good questions to ask could be:
"Why are you harassing me?"
"Are you aware that you are in violation of due process of the law?"
"Do you have a warrant?"
"Would you please stop asking me questions? You are putting me into a state of duress!"

 

[Jhhnn]

The truth about probation is that you have to get straight & stay that way, at least as far as cannabis is concerned. Otherwise, they'll just be pushing further up you ass than they already are. Beyond that, take the classes they demand, show up on time for appointments, piss in the cup & be prepared to entertain your probation officer should he knock on your door.

If you're not together on any of that, you get jail time as an attitude adjustment.

 

[HOPS5K]

Update: Finally getting sentenced on May 11th and it's a little different than I thought. 10 days or more for the DWAI and 30 days capped for the weed. So, maybe 40 days or so, maybe a little less with good time or whatever I was told. So yeah, not fun, but it doesn't seem it'll be that bad as long as I keep a good perspective. Plus I got 68 hours of classes for drugs/alcohol. Not sure about the community service and fines yet.
Got a lot of support from classmates from high school, family and a few friends. After I get out, I get to go see Zac Brown Band at Coors Field...should be fun

 

[floralheart]

Here's the story...was up all night trimming, decided, "Hey, let's put it in the car for the road trip to Arizona and the Slipknot/Korn concert in Denver. Seems like a good idea"..go inside..forgot the weed was in the truck, got all pumped up listening to Metallica "the call of cthulu" and decided, "Lets go out for a ride and rock out, yeah!!!" Started driving around town and ended up outside of town and decided to come back in..getting really tired and didn't quite make it home.

You're exactly who the police are looking for.

Put your nose to the stone, come up with cash for an attorney, buy yourself probation.

Someone I know, loaded on pills, fell asleep at the wheel and drove into a road sign on a highway, middle of the day. This, after a hit and run where multiple cars were damaged. He needed to go to jail, but somehow he never saw a day in jail. Probation.

It costs a lot.

 

[floralheart]

Update: Finally getting sentenced on May 11th and it's a little different than I thought. 10 days or more for the DWAI and 30 days capped for the weed. So, maybe 40 days or so, maybe a little less with good time or whatever I was told. So yeah, not fun, but it doesn't seem it'll be that bad as long as I keep a good perspective. Plus I got 68 hours of classes for drugs/alcohol. Not sure about the community service and fines yet.
Got a lot of support from classmates from high school, family and a few friends. After I get out, I get to go see Zac Brown Band at Coors Field...should be fun

I know people with 7 drug felonies still walking around on probation. No jail. They just pay and pay.

 

[floralheart]

Also, there are some terms you can use in encounters with officers that can send them running...

A couple good questions to ask could be:
"Why are you harassing me?"
"Are you aware that you are in violation of due process of the law?"
"Do you have a warrant?"
"Would you please stop asking me questions? You are putting me into a state of duress!"

Sounds like a good way to go to jail and get your ass beat.

 

[snake11]

biggest problem is if keys were in ignition. you could be parked in front of your own house, car not running, but if the keys were in the ignition they can still hammer you. Willie Nelson used to get caught like that all the time, but I think he put his keys in his pocket before he stretched out, LOL!

Every state is different but the one I'm in if you have the keys in your pocket, sleeping it off in the drivers seat you still get some form of a DUI.

 

[HOPS5K]

So, Monday is the day peeps...not looking forward to it, but kind of am in a weird twisted way. It's like karma man, I did something messed up and now it's pay up time. Good thing is, I'll lose a few lbs. on the jail diet, lower my weed tolerance, have a break from the PS4 and come out with a better and safer attitude.

It shouldn't even be that long of a sentence, but I'll face it with courage and hope to come out a better man in the end.

Talk to you guys when I get out guys and gals..thanks for all your advice and support...should be summer time by then and I can get to growing again and smoking very, very minimally and discreetly.

 

[Green Squall]

Good luck. The time will pass faster than you think. Have you done any research on wherever you'll be staying?