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smurfin'herb

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Im at the end of week 1 flower man, not veggin! so now what? am i still feeding too much? what should i do? do i do a peak and drop flower program or get it to a certain ppm and keep it there til flush? Advanced told me start at 1000ppm 1st week of flower then go up to 1600. STITCH , what do i do?!!!!
 

smurfin'herb

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Well I have noticed what i believe to be leaf mold (correct me if im wrong), but ive seen tiny black spots on yellow leaves that are barley hangin on, and some leaves stay predominantly green with jus a hint of yellow and are halfway perky, but fall off easily when u touch them. Tell me what you think...









first stages

final stages


I think these are the result of pests, what do u think..?





 

wygram

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Those are signs of the plant telling you to stop trying to force feed it. 1600 ppms is ridiculous. It comes out to be 2.3 EC @ .7 conversion factor or 3.2 @ .5! There is no way a plant one week into flower will handle that kind of nute strength, maybe a couple days around peak flowering, but definitely not where you are at. You shouldn't need to be over 1.5 EC at peak, with 1.0-1.2 being average, which is about [email protected] or [email protected]. Find out what factor your ppm meter works at, you can't reference your ppm to others without knowing this.
 
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statictattoo

wow why ask for help if your not going to listen to what the people in the know are telling you??? its not pests... lol

READ listen LEARN
 

Kenny Lingus

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My point of view:

If using coco coir and not giving coco-tailored nutrients one should always supply extra calcium and magnesium. (CalMag, SensiCal, etc.)
This holds especially true when you are mixing the nutrients with soft or DI/RO water.


I guess calcium deficiency, and high pH from the LECA. Another important thing is to lower the dosage to a whole other level. AN recommends about 1/3 too much, or even worse when talking Connie. A peak at about 1000-1250max strength is absolute the top in coco. The medium holds excess nutrients and will lock out elements very soon.

Start coco feeding at about 300-350ppm, increase to 500-700 when roots burst out the bottoms and remember to begin having 5-15% run-off from this moment on. (weekly flushing with 2/3-strength nutrients is also a wise insurance against troubles later on.)

OBS OBS! If not having run-off and letting the medium dry out between waterings you should give less nutes and also alternate between water and feedings.

I recommend you first now begin pouring pH'd water through the bags. 2-3 times the amount of medium. Then you keep giving pure water, or only a few traces of nutrients -like 250ppm- for at least 4 days, or until you see healthy growth returns. If pH down is used then use nitric-acid, as it may help release locked up phosphates... Next point is that you stick to only a few necessary products and then lower the dosage to about 600ppm (EC 1,2) untill you see plants craving for more (turning paler then good is)

PS! Good luck and read the coco forums.
 
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smurfin'herb

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statictattoo said:
wow why ask for help if your not going to listen to what the people in the know are telling you??? its not pests... lol

READ listen LEARN

Um ok, i saw a fuckin hole in my leaf, i thought it was pests, doesnt seem to me like nutes eat holes in your leaves, so it was a logical judgment. lay off dude! i flushed all thos nutes out 3 days ago!

And btw everyone, my conv. for ppm meter is .7
 
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MynameStitch

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Hey smurf, from the pictures you posted those are not fungus related.

The pictures you think that is from pests, is from your nutes burning the root zone causing the leaf to turn necrotic...... the curling leaves and such you see is due to leaf dying and having lockout issues......

When a root zone gets impacted you will see it on the plant, so if something happens the leaf will slowly die and wilther, the leaves that is fallen off and curled and brown/black is due to high nute levels, not pests./......

as for the holes, if it was pests related the bugs would be big enough to see it with the naked eye........ look around your grow area and underside leaves to ensure it's not pest related.....
Do you have any pets at home?
If you want too, use neem oil to spray your plants down, will help deter off pests....... You growing in a basement or an area where a lot of bugs are at?
 
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