Hugo Chavez dead.

[Max Headroom]

i liked him and loved the fact that the US was foaming at the mouth over him.

not sure if he got cancer or canCIAer.

well, lets hope for the country's sake that someone similarly humanist-minded will follow.
not holding my breath though... western pockets are deep and greed so easily corrupts.

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

i liked him and will remember him in a better light than any so called politician in any of our backwards so called "democratic capitalist" countries in modern times..

and he was voted in by majority, people liked him and recognised that a form of socialism is the only way for the future of their country..

the ecuadorian president better watch himself as well..

what people dont understand here because of the programming is that chavez was actually liked by his people and was in power because of them. He was one of the last leader to be freely elected by his people and the banking cartels have been trying to kill him for years.

this is only a victory for the west.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

I loved Chavez. He had his middle finger perpetually pointed toward the U.S. I believe if you are in the US you need to watch news from around the world to get a better picture of how things are. BBC, RT, hell even VICE. Now the US can install there puppet, and get another foot hold in South America.

I find it funny that US citizens don't like Chavez, but your very own Government just said that they can kill Americans on American soil with drones with no warrant, and no trial. Seems a bit fucked up to me. Remember when you point 1 finger at someone you have 3 fingers pointing back at yourself.

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

The president of Venuzuala, Hugo Chavez is dead.
His deputy said that America infected him with cancer.
...
So did the US bump him off as his deputy says?

58 year old man dies of cancer? Wow, that never happens. Must have been an assassination. What other explanation is there?

 

[GoodyTwoShoes]

Could be the first step in an attempt by the US to liberate the Venezualan oil, I mean people.
That's if what his deputy is saying is true.
Chavez took the land off the few rich and distrubuted it to the peasants so they could own the means of production, instead of working for peanuts for the rich landholders.
I agree with that.

 

[B.E.D]

My condolences to Sean Penn on the loss of his lover...

 

[lost in a sea]

58 year old man dies of cancer? Wow, that never happens. Must have been an assassination. What other explanation is there?

it's irrelevent anyway.. and doesnt change the fact that they have been trying to overthrow him through coups and sanctions and propaganda since day 1.. maybe they killed him like they did kennedy? maybe not.. still the same enemy..

 

[bombadil.360]

well, I don't know where to begin, I'm still in a little bit of shock...

as many of you know, I was born and raised in Venezuela; and I think celebrating Chavez's death to be of very poor taste even though I never liked him and think he ruined Venezuela completely; having said that I do wish that he rests in peace and that his death brings a new beginning to everyone in Venezuela.

Some facts that need to be heard in this thread though, since it is filled with non-sense, is that since Chavez took power in 1999, the rates of violent deaths have multiplied each year... for example, in 1998, there were about 4000 violent deaths; while in 2000, there were about 10,000!!! in 2012 there were 21,000 violent deaths.

Since Chavez, criminality has risen to levels never seen before in Venezuela.

All the lands Chavez stole, were never given to anyone but to high ranking military or political elite. for example, Chavez's home state, Barinas, is now owned by Chavez's family with a wooping 80% ownership of the land.

All farms that were stolen by Chavez ceased to produce first necessity foods; this resulted in serious lack of food like milk, eggs and chicken. which Chavez started buying from Brazil.

Several newspapers, radio and tv stations were closed by Chavez because he wanted only his view on things to be aired. effectively killing free speech and opinion.

Venezuela never saw division of such magnitudes like the one we see now, all thanks to Chavez, divide and conquer at its best.

one for the icmaggers to love, is that although Chavez and Evo tried to normalize the use of the Coca Leaf in the Andean countries (which was done to facilitate their trafficking activities), they shot down with bitter disagreement the efforts of Uruguayan president Mujica to legalize and control Cannabis.

if you are one thinking there was ever any sort of positive Revolution in Venezuela, all you have to do is hop on a plane and travel to Caracas and see the reality for yourself, instead of being a gullible individual eating away all the lies that the Venezuela government thrives upon.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

The US kills people around the world with impunity. Now they will be killing people on American soil with impunity. I am sure the number is much higher than 21,000 per year. We killed over 1 million civilians in Iraq alone. 21,000 does not seem that bad. 33,000 Americans are killed by car wrecks each year. I am not saying things are great in Venezuela, but it is all relative.

 

[bombadil.360]

The US kills people around the world with impunity. Now they will be killing people on American soil with impunity. I am sure the number is much higher than 21,000 per year. We killed over 1 million civilians in Iraq alone. 21,000 does not seem that bad. 33,000 Americans are killed by car wrecks each year. I am not saying things are great in Venezuela, but it is all relative.

look man, just because facts about Hugo Chavez mean that he was a very bad man; does not mean that whatever is wrong in the U.S is actually good.

if you can't see that, you're in serious trouble.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

1 million vs 21,000 is all I was saying. And that is just 1 Country. That does not include South America, Mexico, the rest of the middle east, and Africa. We kill millions upon millions, and we incarcerate more people than any other Country in the world. Again I know it's not all roses in Venezuela, but 21,000 is a small number when you look at the entire world. I will say that when it is someone you know then the numbers don't mean anything.

 

[Storm Shadow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeHzc1h8k7o

'The War On Democracy' (2007) was John Pilger's first for cinema. It explores the current and past relationship of Washington with Latin American countries such as Venezuela, Bolivia and Chile.

Using archive footage sourced by Michael Moore's archivist Carl Deal, the film shows how serial US intervention, overt and covert, has toppled a series of legitimate governments in the Latin American region since the 1950s. The democratically elected Chilean government of Salvador Allende, for example, was ousted by a US backed coup in 1973 and replaced by the military dictatorship of General Pinochet. Guatemala, Panama, Nicaragua, Honduras and El Salvador have all been invaded by the United States.

John Pilger interviews several ex-CIA agents who took part in secret campaigns against democratic countries in the region. He investigates the School of the Americas in the US state of Georgia, where Pinochet’s torture squads were trained along with tyrants and death squad leaders in Haiti, El Salvador, Brazil and Argentina.

The film unearths the real story behind the attempted overthrow of Venezuela's President Hugo Chávez in 2002 and how the people of the barrios of Caracas rose up to force his return to power.

It also looks at the wider rise of populist governments across South America lead by indigenous leaders intent on loosening the shackles of Washington and a fairer redistribution of the continent's natural wealth.

John Pilger says: "[The film] is about the struggle of people to free themselves from a modern form of slavery". These people, he says, "describe a world not as American presidents like to see it as useful or expendable, they describe the power of courage and humanity among people with next to nothing. They reclaim noble words like democracy, freedom, liberation, justice, and in doing so they are defending the most basic human rights of all of us in a war being waged against all of us."

'The War On Democracy' was a Youngheart Entertainment, Granada and Michael Watt production. It was released in UK cinemas on 15 June 2007 and broadcast on ITV1, 20 August 2007. Directors: John Pilger and Chris Martin. Producers: Chris Martin and Wayne Young. Editor: Joe Frost. The film was made with the support of the humanitarian financier Michael Watt.

Awards: Best Documentary Award, 2008 One World Awards, London. The panel's citation read: "There are six criteria the judges are asked to use to select the winner of this award: the film's impact on public opinion, its appeal to a wide audience, its inclusion of voices from the developing world, its high journalistic or production standards, its success in conveying the impact of the actions of the world's rich on the lives of the poor and the extent to which it draws attention to possible solutions. One film met every one of these. It was the winner of the award: John Pilger's 'The War on Democracy'.

Johnpilger.com

 

[legalizeDK]

RIP Chavez.

 

[B.E.D]

The US kills people around the world with impunity. Now they will be killing people on American soil with impunity. I am sure the number is much higher than 21,000 per year. We killed over 1 million civilians in Iraq alone. 21,000 does not seem that bad. 33,000 Americans are killed by car wrecks each year. I am not saying things are great in Venezuela, but it is all relative.

please show me some source that backs up your claim that the American military killed "1 million civilians" in iraq..

also..you make it sound that American deaths are justified because of your above claim..

 

[OrganicOzarks]

please show me some source that backs up your claim that the American military killed "1 million civilians" in iraq..

also..you make it sound that American deaths are justified because of your above claim..

Justified? These murders are appalling. I don't copy and paste. If you don't believe me google it. The Us is the biggest murdering cartel that has ever existed. It can only go on so log until someone stand sup to us.

 

[B.E.D]

dont deflect...you havent brought proof to your claim...perhaps you should google.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

Deflect? Is this my 16 year old daughter?

 

[B.E.D]

Deflect? Is this my 16 year old daughter?

definition of deflect:
direct attention away: to direct people's attention or criticism away from a subject or issue to something else.

yeah..please poppa...i need a pregnancy test.

 

[toughmudderdave]

US foreign policy/involvement in Central/South America is shameful and appalling. I harbor no love for Hugo Chavez, but I can most certainly understand his disdain for the US and our Imperialist agenda. From the CIA driven coup in Guatemala in the 50's to Operation Condor where we provided technical, financial, and military assistance to corrupt regimes in South America that were responsible for 60-80,000 "dissidents" murdered.

I have no feelings toward Chavez one way or the other, but I am ashamed at my governments involvement in the affairs of sovereign nations...and it never surprises me when a leader arises that calls the US "Imperialistic"...Are we so arrogant (or stupid) as to think we can meddle in their affairs without any type of blowback or reprisal?

 

[lost in a sea]

actually nearer to 2 million civilians died in iraq since the beginning of that slaughter over wmds that never existed..

just look at how many us military bases are occupying other people's countries.. i dont know if americans know vaguely what that feels like..

to compare the us foreign policy with chavez is an insult.. mountain vs a mole hill..

and i dont know where to start with what bombadil said so i wont... good job your in amurica huh? the land of the free ..