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[Daub Marley]

On the other hand once the resin heads are pressed in a mass of resin that is corrosive your Hashish will be very close to 100% after 12 weeks or so.

This wording is kind of confusing. Corrosive means to destroy, and the resin isn't destroying vegetative matter right? Dissolving yes, but then again just because it dissolved doesn't mean it disappeared. To my knowledge the % of contaminant does not change unless you physically remove it. Did I miss something or just misunderstanding you?

 

[mack 10]

As i believed it you would store your resin in powder form until you want to smoke or sell it, Only then would it be pressed.
When you where in these producing countries did they press all their harvest, or just little bit's as was needed?
The whole thing intrigues me, on one hand you have the old skool knowledge which says to press and age your hash as it will improve the smell and taste, that was with old skool hash though, not the 50% plus THC stuff we are smoking now.
the resin being corrosive to plant matter is also a very interesting topic. I will also try some test's but long term storage is near impossible lol, as it will get smoked up with the quickness...

 

[EsterEssence]

I have some from 4 years ago, a few different kinds from last years made some 8,6,4 months old, it ages sealed in cellophane and foodsaver bags.I always press my hash always have. When I get finished with this home improvement i will get it out and take some shots. The very best turns white and bubbles full dome. Some of the second grade has a fuller taste, melts, but not full dome

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

As i believed it you would store your resin in powder form until you want to smoke or sell it, Only then would it be pressed.
In Afghanistan they store their resin 3 months before pressing then they age it, if they can avoid smoking fresh Hashish they will as in most producing countries outside Morocco.
In Morocco, they cure the resin on the plants for 3 months and then only sieve it. I have not seen aged Hashish in Morocco, the locals usually buy the loose resin and press before smoking, the Moroccan do not have the traditions that you find in Afghanistan, Lebanon, India and Middle East being the latest Hashish producing country.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

I have smoke Lebanese, Afghani, Paki, Nepalese, Indian that would compete with the market today, never checked the THC level but have not smoke anything quite like it in the States. If you really want to experience quality not only you have to go to the producing country, but deep in the producing place to really get quality, a few hundred miles from the producing center and the quality is already 2nd and 3rd grade.

 

[exploziv]

The thing is that I'd always expect pressed hash to be tastier than kief, except maybe when the kief is fresh (just made). But it would be cool to know this is a fact and that it works.

Now, another matter, I press my outdoor bubble, cure it 2-3 months at room temperature, then put it in the deep freezer. Is this a good practice, or I'd be better if the hash cured more at room temperature? I feel the deep freezer keeps most of the high same as the day you put it in there, but can't tell for sure if that is true for taste and other qualities of the hash.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

The thing is that I'd always expect pressed hash to be tastier than kief, except maybe when the kief is fresh (just made). But it would be cool to know this is a fact and that it works.

Now, another matter, I press my outdoor bubble, cure it 2-3 months at room temperature, then put it in the deep freezer. Is this a good practice, or I'd be better if the hash cured more at room temperature? I feel the deep freezer keeps most of the high same as the day you put it in there, but can't tell for sure if that is true for taste and other qualities of the hash.

The best is to cure at a relatively cool temp, in the dark. You do not need to use the freezer, a dark and cool place is perfect to age. Keep the minimum amount of "air space" in your container, too much oxygen is not good for curing or aging.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Morocco was the last producing country to come on the world market but the techniques they use come from Lebanon, middle east and the Hindu Kush.
I disagree that we started showing people how to isolate these gland heads from the rest of the plant matter on the same level as Water Hash, I have seen to many awesome Hashish in producing countries.
I can't wait to visit canada with TC and do a session with you. I do not know how clean was the resin that my Afghani friends were making but I have hardly smoke Hashish as good as their private stock ever outside some Red Lebanese that I will remember my whole life and the Charas we were making in India.

The average Afghan import hash here is less then 20% THC, I lived in Afghanistan pre 1972 and met with growers, hashmakers, I saw the best of the best, cherak Saki hash that was very very good when you consider that they produce it from fully seeded plants, harvest and dry in the sun, with a lot of CBD mixed in with the THC, and most are more interested in quanity then quality. If you look at unpressed Afghan resin with a microscope it is not 99.9% resin heads, not even close.
-SamS

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I have worked in a few producing countries with amazing Hashishins, I have never look at Hashish with a macro lens so I will not be able to tell the percentage before press. On the other hand once the resin heads are pressed in a mass of resin that is corrosive your Hashish will be very close to 100% after 12 weeks or so. I do not have any tangible proof to offer outside my experience but I will be testing pressed resin on a weekly basis for twelve weeks on a ball of 20 to 30 g to offer the science behind traditions

Pressing hash does not improve flavor in my opinion. It subdues it.
unpressed resin gives the most flavor smells and tastes.
Pressing hash does not make it 100% after 12 weeks, this is just not true. Pressing lowers terpene content and does nothing for THC %'s.
Some people prefer pressed resin. So be it.
-SamS

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Pressing hash does not improve flavor in my opinion. It subdues it.
unpressed resin gives the most flavor smells and tastes.
Pressing hash does not make it 100% after 12 weeks, this is just not true. Pressing lowers terpene content and does nothing for THC %'s.
Some people prefer pressed resin. So be it.
-SamS

I will hold you on that one Sam and have the science to back it up soon enough.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

In a nutshell:The transformation of loose resin glands into a resinous form brings out the fragrance of the flowers when breaking the membranes surrounding the resin heads and “locks” the fragrance and flavors into the Hashish, the terpenes are “bound” in the mass with the cannabinoids through the pressing process. The resinous mass is “corrosive”, meaning that it will gradually absorb the resin gland’s membranes and most microscopic vegetal matters in the first twelve weeks of its transformation, resulting in a cleaner Hashish with a richer, more complex nose. Hashish should then be aged to truly reach its peak.
I have personally smoke often enough 1 to 5 years old Hashish and the oldest I had the chance to test was 8 years old, you would not believe how tasty it can get.

Pressing resin lowers tepene content.
Do you have any science articles that explains your theories about corrosive mass absorbing membranes and most microscopic vegetal matters in the first twelve weeks of its transformation? I have never seen this.
I have never smoked an older hash that was better then the same piece 5 or 10 years ago, different tastes yes, better high?, no way...
I have many hash that is 20 years old, it should be out of sight by now...
Funny how you seem to think science is so important on other threads and here it is just your opinions being preached, not science....

-SamS

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I will hold you on that one Sam and have the science to back it up soon enough.

I won't hold my breath.
-SamS

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

For all the posters with questions about curing.
#1 Cure the buds on the plants before you make hash, dry sift or with water. 3+ months in a cool box.
When you make hash, for storage more then a few months, freeze it away from oxygen if you can.
-SamS

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

If you press hash resin it losses terpenes that you could of smoked in a still powdered loose resins. You may prefer the taste of pressed, but it has less terpenes.
-SamS

 

[theJointedOne]

Pressed is nice, but here in CA Ive seen too many moldy hash samples bc of a lack of proper drying/curing ect before pressing.

I am still waiting for my screens, but hopefully DSW gets the stock this week and i can start making some 99%

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

There is no science to prove what pressing, curing and aging bring to the table but as I was mentioning that is my next big project.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

[/QUOTE] Funny how you seem to think science is so important on other threads and here it is just your opinions being preached, not science....
-SamS[/QUOTE]
Funny that you claim the same and you are trashing and just preaching your opinion as well. Before you know the science on any opinion, the forming of the opinion is kind of important I would say.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Simply because I have seen it with my own eyes and if you come to the SF High Times Cup I have a five years old Hashish that was not very clean 5 years ago but is now, you will have to believe that it was not perfect to start with and I have witnesses who where there when the resin was collected and pressed.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I'll bet I, and several other posters here, have hashish made today that is better then any 5 or 10 year old piece you can find. Unless your 5 year old is 99.9% pure resin heads and been kept frozen away from Oxygen?
That is, if I know what varieties you like, if you like the highs of NLD or WLD varieties better, I can make one. Even better I can make it with your plant materials that you like the best, all I do is make it 99.9% pure resin heads, you can even press it if you prefer before smoking....
Hashish does not improve quality with pressing or with aging or curing after pressing, it degrades with age, THC turns into CBN, terpenes are lost, this can lead to tastes that some people may prefer but the THC levels and terpene levels have declined with age.
If kept frozen away from oxygen it degrades very, very, slowly, but it does still degrade.
I don't like CBN at all, it ruins a good THC high to me, just like CBD also does to THC, ruins the THC to me. I like lots of THC with the right terpenes, no CBD, no CBN, no THCV, no CBC, no CBG, as they are not what I want. I know I have tried them all 100% pure and mixed with 100% pure THC. I understand some people prefer a THC/CBD mix like found in imported Afghan hash, but I do not. I prefer an afghan hash made with only THC plants, not a mix of resin that is THC/CBD or THC+CBD resins.
To each their own, but if you like getting really really high, not just really really stoned, try THC only hashish resins in NLD (Sativa) varieties. Then again, the terpenes found in most Afghan WLD (Indica) varieties are not really the up, speedy, soaring, clear, euphoric, cerebral, psychedelic high, types I like and are found in many NLD varieties, as much as the narcotic, physical, couch lock types I don't like as much that are found in many WLD varieties....
I also do not like that WLD varieties from sifted hash cultures, if you grow them are 25 % of the population are pure THC with little to no CBD, 50% are a mix of THC/CBD and 25% CBD with little to no THC. So only 25% of the female plants are THC only, which is all I like.
All from the 130+ different terpenes and THC, with or without CBD, etc, or lack of them.
-SamS

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Funny how you seem to think science is so important on other threads and here it is just your opinions being preached, not science....
-SamS

Funny that you claim the same and you are trashing and just preaching your opinion as well. Before you know the science on any opinion, the forming of the opinion is kind of important I would say.

If you form your opinion before you understand the available science you end up making silly statements like Terpenes are not made in the resin heads. That is what I mean. I am not innocent, but I do really try to have opinions that agree with the available science, even if I have to modify my opinions, which I do when needed.
If you think I am preaching my opinion maybe it is because of the lack of science for certain questions means I have still found no science done yet to base my opinions on? Then I might still have an opinion, maybe. Based on my experience of 50 years growing, and 40 years hash making. But I do know the difference between an opinion based on science and an opinion based on no science, just hearsay and other opinions.
-SamS