How to Keep From Getting Busted Growing

[PkRipper]

number one..

No stop and go traffic even for pizza ....
No beans thru mail labled from amsterdamn..
No bar flies or hood rat's, l keep that at the ramada..
No 3 thosand dollar power bills at a regular house .....
No craiglisting your extra clones ....
No traviling with buds and cash , always trunk your stash and dont keep several bags. dicovery of mutible bags and cash will lead to a search warrant for your place of residence.
No hydro store vists , send a trusted friend and make them wait a day before bringing you your stuff. never mail order bongs and dub bags to your spot ......

and dont piss off your neigbors with multiple cars and jetskies blocking the road when you stay home all day and dont work.....

DONT STEAL POWER , fire is assured , or death . its like 50,000 volts around here so have sumone saftly install your breakers and wires nothing like fried fuse panels in the spot a few weeks from chop....

 

[lexxx]

Keep 'em coming

Keep 'em coming

Keep em coming. I think we've already laid down some great ground work for the growers out there who want to take advantage of all of the experience on icemag.

For all of those who think that growing/handling/selling do's and don'ts is akin to paranoia, may be right because sometimes I worry that I may worry too much. LOL But this thread is really about avoidance of being busted or ripped off. It is said that just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

This from the lab just last night:
Sunday I made up some organic fertilizer and capped it tightly in a heavy plastic 5 gal jug. I got hung up and missed my usual rounds on Monday. When I got to my lab on Tuesday, the jug was under so much pressure from all of the co2 being generated by the fertilizer that it was grotesquely deformed. Had this been in a glass or lighter duty container it would have exploded. Would it have caused damage if it were to explode? Probably not but humans are naturally curious about explosion sounds and curiosity is definitely one of the things we want to discourage. Also, organics are best if they are allowed to bloom for a day before use so that all of the bacteria are producing co2 and breaking down the components so that the roots can more easily assimilate the nutes. I try to leave the caps off my jugs or if I do use them I just thread them on loosely. One more thing while I'm off on this particular rant. Use up all made up organic ferts within a couple of days. The reason is that after a couple of days they start smelling like a rotting animal and the aroma can travel for over a hundred feet. <rant end>

 

[Lazyman]

No money and weed at the same spot.

No weed and grow at the same spot.

No grow and money at the same spot.

ALso for renters (houses, apartment renters shouldn't really grow IMHO) but some of the following may apply:

Pay rent ahead of time, in checks, not cash or money orders
Make upgrades out of your own wallet if you can, this keeps owners happy
Mow and take care of your yard, preferably better than your neighbors.
Don't wear Dead shirts when you meet your landlord, same goes for dreads.
Hide your expensive belongings if they think you work at mcdonalds.
Be very discreet about security upgrades. When I change a lock I always make sure it looks like the old one, security cameras should be hidden too for many reasons.
Run an ozone generator in your house and grow room before inspections, buy one or rent one from an equipment rental place (used for deodorizing flooded homes)
Dont have grow supplies delivered to your grow spot
Pay for stuff at the hydro store with cash
Drive a friends car to the hydro store if you can.
Put away cash for lawyers, bail, or fleeing to Venezuela if you can. Hide it off your property.
Don't get involved with anyone who is a member of any of the following groups:
Bikers
Gangsters
Tweakers
White drug dealers (coke, x, H, etc.)

Don't have indoor and outdoor grows at the same spot unless medically compliant

Basically, don't call any attention to yourself at all, be grey, neutral, a shadow, insignificant, the house that people drive by 100 times a day and never notice. Nothing flashy, no loud parties, no brand new Rovers in a sea of Hondas, etc...

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

^^
When we were moving here a few weeks back, our neighbors came over and told us how sad they were to see us go, and that for the last several years, the only people that would rent the house were drug dealers and dope growers, and that they were very happy when we moved in. The "Dad" next door was saying how he wished we could have made it work, and that he just knows god damn dopers are gonna move back in again after we leave. He told me that they had called the cops a few years back on previous renters because they were suspicious. Go figure.

As he was telling us that, we were standing in the garage in front of my entire grow room, packed up, everything, including soil. And at the curb, a few dozen males that never made it to the worm bin that I just put out there because hell, we weren't gonna be there anymore and moving several states away.
They were nice people, just ignorant. Even asked if there was anything that they could do to help change our minds about leaving.

Again,
Never sold,
Never Told,
gigantic carbon scrubber and huge ass can fan.
Hell, I never left my house w/ anything on me aside from few exceptions before we moved to gift some herb and hash.
In the time we were there, well,
check my album lol!

 

[exploziv]

great thread..

 

[Jiu Jitsu Playa]

this is a big rule.. never ever ever ever EVER open the door for LEO. Talk through the door, tell them to get the dispatcher to call your phone if theres a emergency. if theres still a issue, tell them you dont open the door for LEO. If there was a warrant, youd be wondering whos going to fix your door

 

[johnipedestran]

The single most important issue I believe is that when someone enters your house, there cannot be a smell, there cannot be a trace of marijuana use and there better not be anything visible.

A previous poster mentioned Carbon filter and proper ventilation. I have 3x the size of what I need for my space and in the past two years there is simply no odor.

For years I grew and had minor odor, just kinda went with it, but no more. Room is sealed only thing coming out is smell free air.

peace
jip

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

^^
Good point overkill the ventilation for peace of mind. Mine was such that you could not smell anything, not even in the room. You had to literally touch them, but of course, taking them out was a different story, vaccum sealed mason jars come in handy there.

Also, know the law. Know your local laws. Know your rights, that goes back to the not opening the door etc....be educated, practice scenarios, I made my wife role play, not only for my sake, but for hers too. You play like you practice, and if that time comes, even if you KNOW what you are supposed to say and do, it's very difficult when you are pissing yourself w/ the LEO on the otherside of the door or what have you. It sounds silly, but role playing the scenarios is a good way to practice, I mean if you can. In my case, obviously my wife has an idea of what is going on, so I had the luxury of having her to do that. Obviously don't do it if you are single and it would require you to blow your cover duh duh duh.

 

[growlife]

the cops showed up at my place before for a 911 hangup when there wasnt event a phone hookedup just the box hanging off the house

 

[Lazyman]

the cops showed up at my place before for a 911 hangup when there wasnt event a phone hookedup just the box hanging off the house

WTF is that? Cops scoping you out or something probably. I'd have been pissed!

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

the cops showed up at my place before for a 911 hangup when there wasnt event a phone hookedup just the box hanging off the house

That's a wild card for sure, hard to prevent a LEO that is willing to lie and violate your civil liberties and the law, but that's where a lawyer comes in handy. Not that it would be any fun to have to go through the courts and battle it out, but in the end a good lawyer will stomp a hole through shit like that. As someone said earlier, put money away for that rainy day, you do not want a public "pretender" who's already knee deep in cases and doesn't even remember your name and is more concerned w/ how well he networks w/ prosecutors and judges.

Did they demand to come in to check and see if there were any injured people or anything? That sounds alot like what happened to someone else here really recently. (cough cough whiskey cough cough)

For that reason alone, I will never have a land line in my home. Obviously you mentioned the fact that you didn't have a phone hooked up right? What did they say then? I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall for that one.

 

[Pinball Wizard]

Sometimes false 911 calls are traced to cell phones and their GPS location....Beware.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

^^
Wise man once said,
No tell
No smell
No sell

King of KISS right thar!

 

[PkRipper]

.......nvrmind

 

[lexxx]

Happy Friday!

Happy Friday!

Man we've got a lot of smart people on this thread..... so much new stuff to ponder. I had a couple of more:

If you use your computer to log your grow, techniques, pics, etc. Set up an extra user and password protect it and use it exclusively for your grow. Also set it up to sleep in like 10 or 15 minutes and require a password on wake. I am fairly computer literate but maybe we can get a network guru to come give us some better guidance and security ideas.

Also, watch what you keep on your cell phone... You know, pics, contacts named with handles that might be funny at the time you plugged them in (like Joe the Dealer, Mr Speedy, 420 benny, etc.) but incriminating in the wrong venue.


In his book "Cultivating Exceptional Cannabis", DJ Short says "There are two types of thieves to be concerned with: professional and random. Random theft is often minimized by any of a number of simple tactics, such as leaving a "decoy" booth that is easily found but difficult to carry. One form of such "insurance" is to leave a big canvas bag or jar filled with change (a couple of hundred dollars worth) next to an entry way in an obvious, unmissable place..... that way, if the thief is a desperate junkie (random thief) they will likely snag the bag or jar and be on their way. There are a number of ways to decoy would be thieves away from one's grow space. A little imagination and a creative mind go a long way in this capacity. As for thieves in general, there is little beyond the "out of site, out of mind" remedy that needs to be employed."

ciao!

 

[Fatt Daddy]

good stuff...pfl.

 

[ReelBusy1]

No money and weed at the same spot.

No weed and grow at the same spot.

No grow and money at the same spot.

ALso for renters (houses, apartment renters shouldn't really grow IMHO) but some of the following may apply:

Pay rent ahead of time, in checks, not cash or money orders
Make upgrades out of your own wallet if you can, this keeps owners happy
Mow and take care of your yard, preferably better than your neighbors.
Don't wear Dead shirts when you meet your landlord, same goes for dreads.
Hide your expensive belongings if they think you work at mcdonalds.
Be very discreet about security upgrades. When I change a lock I always make sure it looks like the old one, security cameras should be hidden too for many reasons.
Run an ozone generator in your house and grow room before inspections, buy one or rent one from an equipment rental place (used for deodorizing flooded homes)
Dont have grow supplies delivered to your grow spot
Pay for stuff at the hydro store with cash
Drive a friends car to the hydro store if you can.
Put away cash for lawyers, bail, or fleeing to Venezuela if you can. Hide it off your property.
Don't get involved with anyone who is a member of any of the following groups:
Bikers
Gangsters
Tweakers
White drug dealers (coke, x, H, etc.)

Don't have indoor and outdoor grows at the same spot unless medically compliant

Basically, don't call any attention to yourself at all, be grey, neutral, a shadow, insignificant, the house that people drive by 100 times a day and never notice. Nothing flashy, no loud parties, no brand new Rovers in a sea of Hondas, etc...

number one..

No stop and go traffic even for pizza ....
No beans thru mail labled from amsterdamn..
No bar flies or hood rat's, l keep that at the ramada..
No 3 thosand dollar power bills at a regular house .....
No craiglisting your extra clones ....
No traviling with buds and cash , always trunk your stash and dont keep several bags. dicovery of mutible bags and cash will lead to a search warrant for your place of residence.
No hydro store vists , send a trusted friend and make them wait a day before bringing you your stuff. never mail order bongs and dub bags to your spot ......

and dont piss off your neigbors with multiple cars and jetskies blocking the road when you stay home all day and dont work.....

DONT STEAL POWER , fire is assured , or death . its like 50,000 volts around here so have sumone saftly install your breakers and wires nothing like fried fuse panels in the spot a few weeks from chop....

great lists.
TY guys

 

[whodi]

why do you say money orders arent good to use for rent?

 

[mellomel]

Great Thread all. We have 10 rules that we live by, most have already been said;

1. We don't tell a soul(not even our closest, bestest friends),which is easy for us as-

2. We don't sell. We only grow personal to save our own money and not make some other dick rich. (No offense to any one, each to their own.)

3. Don't tap into your own electricity...Big fire risk.

4. We have a smoke alarm detector setup in the room and a fire extinguisher on hand close by.

5. After posting tester/grow photo's, I delete them off my computer instantly(I don't know how effective this is, but it gives me a little peace of mind).I use TU '09- nasa deletion or some crap like that it's called. Lets you choose deletion repititions and deletion security levels.

6. I agree with the no rubbish, pots, mix, ferts, trimmings or any thing to do with the topic lying around for prying eyes to see.

7. I may start a debate here, but I believe in being as honest as I can be with my kids. Therefor they know we smoke and that it's is naughty and we can get into trouble for it. They don't know about the grow. But I was not a stupid kid when it came to my Mother and Step father growing. So I assume the same with my boy's.
My son understands that it helps me with my Trigerminal Nueralgia aswell, we just don't have medical permitts yet here, if frikkin' ever???


8. No talking over the mobile or landline and no pics on mobiles


9. No fingerprints in uploaded pics of grows...very important for eveidence use to the LEO

10. Last but not least, we try to visit our friends and not have them over here as much as we can. So we literally have no traffic coming and going...

I could go on. Maybe even write a book as I am sure most of us could. But it all boils down to sensibility and you need to remember to not get to greedy aswell...

Keep up the fantastic advice everyone....

 

[s13sr20det]

why do you say money orders arent good to use for rent?

because some shady landlord could say you didnt pay that month. if you have a check you can get a copy of the check from the bank and show your statement for proof.