how much extra cal mag do ogs like?

[HemperorsKnight]

Shit this would explain my platinum banana og kush bx1 and why she's so god damn stubborn all my other plant's are fine the alien kush the gsc bc1 f2 the legend og bc1 f1 and the lime kush s1 just having problems with the platinum banana og and after reading this thread I think I know where I went wrong thanks everyone

 

[jidoka]

Y'all might wanna ask if Ca or Mg tied up with bicarbonate ever becomes available to the plant

Edit...if it does please show me the chemical equation

 

[jidoka]

If ya wanna get all technical chlorophyll is 1 Mg and 4 N. if a plant needs mg it:a) has too much n already or b) also needs n

Cmon now...chemistry will not be denied

 

[bsgospel]

^ I'm with you - I should have included the N in my note and stressed that K can suppress the Mg or keep it from being available. The K can be seemingly fine while Mg builds up in the background. N observed, not blowing up the Cal or K to compensate.

 

[Bluto]

I have some FAK and it hates food water etc. give it nothing and it fixes its self

 

[kaka_]

https://youtu.be/LJkv3fSeSvg

Kev mentions that most kushes including OG and even GG4 are actually magnesium hungry and are lighter feeders...

Hmm?

I'd agree but they take as much calcium as I can throw at them

 

[Bluto]

I feed my plants fairly mellow teas and the FAK hates it.

 

[stoney917]

Wow who would of thought! Thanks a ton guys, yeah the water out here is very hard. I will try and just use the base nutes and no calmag unless the plants start asking for it.

The plants were just transplanted into 3 gallon smart pots. Each clone is about 1-2" in height ( smallest I've ever gotten) . Feeding at 500 ppm with the tap being 380 ppm to start with. Do you guys think it would be smarter / better if I just got an Ro filter system , or is it fine using this water ? (I feel like it's too hard) Some guy told me that you should subtract half of the tap waters ppm when adding up your total ppms ( nutes and all) , anybody hear this before?

Dude I'm gonna give you some advice... a grow that size GET RO !!!!! DON'T FUK AROUND!!!!! tap water tends to be inconsistent.... yes you may be able to use it at 300 but one day it may be 4-500 ... if you were<100 @ start be different but the smart thing to do is take all that instability out start at 0 and give them everything. That way you know exactly what they have available..... it's hard to believe that a grow that size was even started without ro or a detailed water analysis report....

 

[GreaseGardens]

Dude I'm gonna give you some advice... a grow that size GET RO !!!!! DON'T FUK AROUND!!!!! tap water tends to be inconsistent.... yes you may be able to use it at 300 but one day it may be 4-500 ... if you were<100 @ start be different but the smart thing to do is take all that instability out start at 0 and give them everything. That way you know exactly what they have available..... it's hard to believe that a grow that size was even started without ro or a detailed water analysis report....

You're telling me brotha.. haha I wish I had the power to change it to ro, trust me if I did it wouldn't have ever been this issue. But unfortunately I'm not in control of this and have to use what I have been dealt with.. I know there will be fluctuations and I will have to accommodate to it and hopefully (they) can see that we do indeed need ro.
On a better note, thanks for all the replies and info from everyone. The ladies are starting to look better and show some new
Growth. My dehus and ac's create some ro water which I then mix into tap making it 180 total ppms. I added 2ml/gal of camg to this mix and they seem to like it. Feeding at 450 ppms, will bump them up as soon as I see them ask for more. We turned off every other light to help them out, temps and rh are at 77&75. They're enjoying life, but I feel like they could be doing better. Maybe this can be due to not having any root product..just guessing.. either way. Here is some pictures

 

[Rondon]

Expensive operation to not have all the details (Especailly water quality) hammered out before a light or air conditioner even gets bought much less turned on.

 

[ReprobateMind]

Does OG Kush need more calcium in soil grows? I have some Loompa's Headband x Triangle Kush in flower and I'm considering adding a one tablespoon top dress to the top of my pots and scratching it in. However, they are not showing any signs of needing calcium at this time. My soil mix already has two tablespoons of powdered Dolomite Lime per gallon of soil. The plants have been in the soil for 49 days since I transplanted them. Should I just wait to see if a deficiency shows? I don't have any cal mag and I'd rather not buy any if I don't have to.

My base soil is:
5 gallons of Sunshine Mix #4 (already contains some lime)
2 gallons of Earthworm Castings
3 gallons of Perlite
2 tbsp of powdered dolomite lime per gallon
2 tbsp of Down to Earth 3-3-3 Seed Starter Mix per gallon

Subcool's Super Soil in the bottom 3 inches of each 5 gallon pot.

It's a 12 week strain and the Super Soil will run out after a while. I'll probably top dress some Down To Earth 4-6-2 all purpose on week 7 of flower. It's starting Week 6 tomorrow.

 

[I Care]

get some neptunes kelp in there too or something else with a little sulfur, mag and potash. whenever is clever if you got nothing new on em in the last month and a half

 

[ReprobateMind]

get some neptunes kelp in there too or something else with a little sulfur, mag and potash. whenever is clever if you got nothing new on em in the last month and a half

Should I add one tablespoon of Oyster Shell Flour to the top of each pot with the kelp? Do I even need kelp? The top dress I plan on using has kelp in it already. Maybe using a mild EWC tea each watering will add enough calcium?

Here are the specs for the DTE All Purpose 4-6-2 https://downtoearthfertilizer.com/products/blended_fertilizer/all-purpose-4-6-2/


TOTAL NITROGEN (N) 4.0%
0.4% Water Soluble Nitrogen
3.6% Water Insoluble Nitrogen
AVAILABLE PHOSPHATE (P2O5) 6.0%
SOLUBLE POTASH (K2O) 2.0%
CALCIUM (Ca) 8.0%
MAGNESIUM (Mg) 1.0%
SULFUR (S) 2.0%


Derived from:
Fish Bone Meal, Blood Meal, Feather Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Rock Phosphate, Langbeinite and Kelp Meal


ALSO CONTAINS NON-PLANT FOOD INGREDIENT(S):
2.5% Humic Acids derived from Leonardite
Listed by the Organic Materials Review Institute (OMRI) for use in organic production.

 

[I Care]

You don’t need kelp and I was unaware you are covered by down to earth on sulfur and calcium, little richer in potassium is the reason I use neptunes edit: as supplemental for top dressing In ground.