How I got roots in 6 days.

[Stonefree69]

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[stoned40yrs]

There are hundreds of cloning threads. THIS thread is discussing slowandeasys method which is a great one. No one cares how you do it if it isn't his method. Make your own thread on your method or post in the hundreds of threads that cover your method already posted. This was a great thread, now it's being derailed by people saying "this is how I do it". Nobody cares, we have already seen your method in other threads. Rant over

 

[Stonefree69]

There are hundreds of cloning threads. THIS thread is discussing slowandeasys method which is a great one. No one cares how you do it if it isn't his method. Make your own thread on your method or post in the hundreds of threads that cover your method already posted. This was a great thread, now it's being derailed by people saying "this is how I do it". Nobody cares, we have already seen your method in other threads. Rant over

Gotcha stoned, already made a new thread: Growing from seeds or clones with Rapid Rooters

 

[stoned40yrs]

Gotcha stoned, already made a new thread: Growing from seeds or clones with Rapid Rooters

You didn't have to do that- I expect to be ignored
This is my favorite cloning thread. I've used every method with varying success but this one really hits the nail on the getting roots in cups of coco showing the importance of RH, temp and moisture content of the coco. Can't wait to try it. I'm sure your method is great also but I need to have it done in cups of coco.

 

[Granger2]

I credit slowandeasy with making my life a lot easier. Before, my cloning efforts were iffy. Did well in an Easy Cloner, but it's a huge PITA to clean, sterilize [a must], dry.

I'm getting ready to try a variation with these:
http://www.amazon.com/Botanicare-Co...6554883&sr=8-3&keywords=botanicare+coco+plugs

I'll report back. -granger

 

[slowandeasy]

I credit slowandeasy with making my life a lot easier. Before, my cloning efforts were iffy. Did well in an Easy Cloner, but it's a huge PITA to clean, sterilize [a must], dry.

I'm getting ready to try a variation with these:
http://www.amazon.com/Botanicare-Co...6554883&sr=8-3&keywords=botanicare+coco+plugs

I'll report back. -granger

Glad to help! Fool-proof cloning 100% success in less than a week. Those plugs are expensive, not sure it is worth it. I could buy 2 bags of Canna almost

 

[Granger2]

slowandeasy,
Yeah they are expensive pound for pound, but I'm looking for convenience, and willing to pay for it if they work well. I'll see how it goes. Thanks. -granger

 

[Xanode]

I tried a few batches of coco clones and couldn't get them to root. They didn't wilt either.

My bubble cloner at room temp or around 75-80 degrees is my go to, I get 75% and sometimes better with it. Just plain R.O. ph'd up to 6.0-6.5.

It's crazy how hit and miss cloning techniques are from person to person, you really never know what type of sucsess you'll get.

You would think by the year 2016 the science of botany would have plant propagation by cutting down to more of a, well, science, how is it still this hit or miss?

 

[Xanode]

i get roots in 6 days
in jiffys without taking the cut out of medium
it comes down to moisture and temps
simple as
all the best

good for you ....

i take the oldest, dirtiest, rustiest blunt knife i can and just cut away, put the clone in some toilet sewage, and i have not only roots, but huge resin caked colas exploding from my cuts in 3 hours........... i have now come to the conclusion that cloning success is 90% based on strain than anything else, your not getting roots in 6-14 days cause you found some special cloning method, you just have an easy to clone strain.

 

[slowandeasy]

good for you
....

i take the oldest, dirtiest, rustiest blunt knife i can and just cut away, put the clone in some toilet sewage, and i have not only roots, but huge resin caked colas exploding from my cuts in 3 hours........... i have now come to the conclusion that cloning success is 90% based on strain than anything else, your not getting roots in 6-14 days cause you found some special cloning method, you just have an easy to clone strain.

Not sure what the point of your post is. I have taken hundreds of clones from dozens of strains. Environment is the key to success. Without the right environment, you will have mixed or bad results. If you don't have roots in 6-14 days, it is either human error or inconsistent environment. Judging by your comments, I would fair to bet you have fluctuating temps and a dirty ass grow room. If you think cloning success is 90% strain related...you are 90% wrong

 

[Granger2]

I think cloning is a science. If you create the environmental conditions that slowandeasy recommends, you should be successful. If you fudge on one of the conditions you may not be. -granger

 

[Xanode]

Not sure what the point of your post is. I have taken hundreds of clones from dozens of strains. Environment is the key to success. Without the right environment, you will have mixed or bad results. If you don't have roots in 6-14 days, it is either human error or inconsistent environment. Judging by your comments, I would fair to bet you have fluctuating temps and a dirty ass grow room. If you think cloning success is 90% strain related...you are 90% wrong

Did u even read my post? i get roots in 3 hours champ! And i don't grow in a room, champ!

 

[slowandeasy]

Did u even read my post? i get roots in 3 hours champ! And i don't grow in a room, champ!

Obviously you are a douchebag troll. Go back to where you came from.

 

[Weeded1s]

Lol

 

[lastmob]

Just tried cloning in coco following the instructions and got my first rooted clones in 8 days (new personal record). Slowandeasy, Herborizer and co - thanks for the tip!

I would like to ask you something - do you think that 90+% RH is optimal up until you see roots or should it be gradually lowered after say 4th or 5th day to make coco dry out a bit? What I did was I opened the vents after 48 hours, then propped the lid slightly in a day, then propped it even more in 2 days. RH still remained 99% on my hygrometer for the most part, sometimes it fell to 85-95...

What do you reckon?

 

[Suntana]

Just an interesting thread to look at.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=169382
This was some good info with coco, I'll be giving your method a try!
Thanks

 

[gr866]

Cut the clones at 8 to 12". Use 16 oz. Solo cup filled 3/4 with Canna coco. Pack this down and water moderately, poke hole, I use a chop stick, then dip the clone, that has been in pH'ed RO with 2 ml/gal RapidStart, into cloning solution and place it in the hole in the coco. I tamp it around the stem and give it a light, maybe 1 oz of the RO/RapidStart, that sets the coco against the stem. Put it under a 13 W bright white CFL and just leave it alone. After 4 or 5 days I mist the leaves and leave it alone. Will have vigorous roots in 7 to 8 days, will be transplantable in 14 days.

GR

 

[DunHav`nFun]

I`ve only rooted cuts 2 ways in all my croppin yrs that DEMANDED regular rotations with fully transplantable rooted cuts by the end of 2-2 1/2 weeks , pre-vegged for another 2 1/2 weeks , then directly into the flip rooms 12/12.....first off....

Healthy cuts root faster , and the bigger the cut the better the odds are of success....now....as has been mentioned by some well respected and experienced growers here , environment is everything...

Lighting means next to nada , and weak nutrient solutions rather any nutrient solution may seem to help the rooting process , but if the plant is confused with nutrients and buncha light , then it`s trying to grow vertically toward the light stimuli instead of growing roots beneath the surface of the container....IOW....

I was taught way back in the day to use 40 watt shop lites for minimal light stimuli , but 80 degrees and 80% RH means EVERYTHING , and worked for me with both methods I used over a 20+ yr period....and the next most important thing is....

Take 2-3 times as many cuts as you need since no 2 cuts root the same nor develop in the same time frame , and the pick of the litter will show their selves as the rooting process progresses I assure you....

If you`re in medville , sell the rest once they all catch up and are fully rooted....Hell I`d be a wealthy old fart yrs ago selling excess cuts for 5 bucks a piece compared to the 10`s of 1000`s I murdered over the yrs....that said....

16 oz red solo cups with 50/50 vermiculite/perlite worked well for a strong decade by wetting em down and letting em dry out under low light by higher temps and humidity....add water to the tray as needed so the holes in the bottoms of the cups can wick moisture during the drying out process.....

I was talked into using coco in "clear solo cups" once I went DTW coco , and as has been explained above , with higher temps as well as elevated humidity levels AND lower light conditions , the biggest advantage to the clear cups allowed the faster rooting more desirable cuts to show up and be noticed faster so as to be able to be moved to pre-veg with T-5`s right down on their ass blastin getting em ready for the bloom rooms.....and yeah....

Cloning is definitely the weak link in the equation unless you follow the rules and dial your shit.....consistency takes repetition and runs under yer belt.....bet on it....anyways....

Just tryin ta help from all those yrs of fuckin up and figurin out why , then not doin the same stupid shit twice.....lastly....80 degrees and 80 % RH is yo friend for rootin cuts....exploit it and prosper....

Peace....DHF..........

 

[maxmurder]

healthy moms help a little too

 

[Budley Doright]

I`ve only rooted cuts 2 ways in all my croppin yrs that DEMANDED regular rotations with fully transplantable rooted cuts by the end of 2-2 1/2 weeks , pre-vegged for another 2 1/2 weeks , then directly into the flip rooms 12/12.....first off....

Healthy cuts root faster , and the bigger the cut the better the odds are of success....now....as has been mentioned by some well respected and experienced growers here , environment is everything...

Lighting means next to nada , and weak nutrient solutions rather any nutrient solution may seem to help the rooting process , but if the plant is confused with nutrients and buncha light , then it`s trying to grow vertically toward the light stimuli instead of growing roots beneath the surface of the container....IOW....

I was taught way back in the day to use 40 watt shop lites for minimal light stimuli , but 80 degrees and 80% RH means EVERYTHING , and worked for me with both methods I used over a 20+ yr period....and the next most important thing is....

Take 2-3 times as many cuts as you need since no 2 cuts root the same nor develop in the same time frame , and the pick of the litter will show their selves as the rooting process progresses I assure you....

If you`re in medville , sell the rest once they all catch up and are fully rooted....Hell I`d be a wealthy old fart yrs ago selling excess cuts for 5 bucks a piece compared to the 10`s of 1000`s I murdered over the yrs....that said....

16 oz red solo cups with 50/50 vermiculite/perlite worked well for a strong decade by wetting em down and letting em dry out under low light by higher temps and humidity....add water to the tray as needed so the holes in the bottoms of the cups can wick moisture during the drying out process.....

I was talked into using coco in "clear solo cups" once I went DTW coco , and as has been explained above , with higher temps as well as elevated humidity levels AND lower light conditions , the biggest advantage to the clear cups allowed the faster rooting more desirable cuts to show up and be noticed faster so as to be able to be moved to pre-veg with T-5`s right down on their ass blastin getting em ready for the bloom rooms.....and yeah....

Cloning is definitely the weak link in the equation unless you follow the rules and dial your shit.....consistency takes repetition and runs under yer belt.....bet on it....anyways....

Just tryin ta help from all those yrs of fuckin up and figurin out why , then not doin the same stupid shit twice.....lastly....80 degrees and 80 % RH is yo friend for rootin cuts....exploit it and prosper....

Peace....DHF..........

I have a pretty successful cloning thread here.... and follow generally the things that fred preaches???

lol ... I had occaision to try to root a very large clone.... One thing that I do that most dont... I scrape opposite sides of the stem to expose the cambium layer... I feel that large clones can be rooted if they are given a little help... If you notice the second pic....its very clear that root initiation favored the scrapes vs the normal tough outer skin(bark)...

For this very large cutting I controlled the humidity with a grocery shopping bag.... as fred says.... Temps 80 to 82

and high humidity and you will likely succeed.....

Lots of folks also bury a node.... that accomplishes exactly the same thing as scraping opposite sides.....it exposes the cambium layer....



ONe thing I have noticed over the 10 years the cloning thread has been around....

There are plenty of folks who are good at cloning....UNTIL dec jan and feb roll around......