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HCMPA

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Thank you! That's the reason I wanna run the at least the other 2 seeds I've got, possibly more and see what else lurks...
Honestly, I probably want to look until I find one that smells like fuel, that I've been reading about here and there in the line.

This one smells just like my Honduras, only not as loud, I'd like a little variety, and have I mentioned I love fuel, kerosene, diesel, gassy terps? Lol. That was the deciding on factor on pulling the trigger to get a 3 pack to sample (that and a 5 pack wasn't available when ordering)
Mine smell like (60%) fuel mixed with not golden / not green apple juice (something in between) , very very loud and travelling away 50 meters, thankfully is not sticky so you don't take it in your clothes, but touch the flowers and 50% incense and 50% vanilla smell (is weird, but feels like the vanila is warm) is gonna stick on you, and you are gonna need to be carefull or your home's towells will end smelling like it, sticky hard resin (not easy to clean) and long lasting smell, luckily this smell don't travel far. Put your nose inside the flower and lime and lemon fruit smell mixed with a godness touch of geranium plant if what you get, for me, the best lemon smell I've smelled so far in a cannabis flower, the fresh lime/lemon and the acid part blend nicely with the gass smell, I even love the geranium now (geraniums never was my thing xD)

IMO the plant and flower structure was 50%/50% honduras/panama, being flowers almost 100% panama and branches and leafs 100% honduras, always light green colour, Haven't sampled it yet.
 

Keif Cake

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Nice! That's what I'm wanting to find is one dominant in the gas smell. The one ive got going has gotten a little more complex over the last week or so, I can faintly pick up some gas scents, and some other ones I can't quite place just yet. I unfortunately have no idea what geraniums smell like

I definitely want to run several more and see what other combinations pop out of it, with only a sample size of one plus what i read from everyone else. this has to be one of the most interesting genetic combinations you can get
 

Keif Cake

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Well... Maybe this one is getting there, the gas smell has gotten a little stronger, maybe it's going to finish out with it! Kinda really hoping so.

Looks like the yield is going to be at least above average, a few of the buds have gotten a little weight to the them

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tjmccoy

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We have 4 HxP fem going. They are @ 14 days from germ under 315w cmh, organic soil at 14hrs light. Trying to get them to darken up more, I keep lightly spoon feeding a little more high N fish but still lime green. How normal is that as this is the first time growing 100% sativas. I think they are feeling a little over watered at the moment 🤓 I took some pics under 3 different lights, they all look different 🤷‍♂️

Any way always enjoy reading this forum and this group is amazing! Cheers 🍻

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johnnylawrence

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We have 4 HxP fem going. They are @ 14 days from germ under 315w cmh, organic soil at 14hrs light. Trying to get them to darken up more, I keep lightly spoon feeding a little more high N fish but still lime green. How normal is that as this is the first time growing 100% sativas. I think they are feeling a little over watered at the moment 🤓 I took some pics under 3 different lights, they all look different 🤷‍♂️

Any way always enjoy reading this forum and this group is amazing! Cheers 🍻

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Are you planning to upsize their containers soon? I suspect they would benefit from that.
 

johnnylawrence

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Congrats on your harvest johnnylawrence (y) the finished product of your HxP looks very Panama, glad you are already enjoying some! Good luck on your new sativa cycle, and use the knowledge and experience you learnt from previous!
Thanks. Prior to this summer and beginning to read this forum, I never bothered adjusting pH with soil. Doing so has definitely made a difference.
 

OZZ_

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Wow!!! Beautiful plants everyone!!

Some lookers in here lately, some signature thick panama pistils seen in some of them.

Beautiful!
 
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tjmccoy

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Are you planning to upsize their containers soon? I suspect they would benefit from that.

Hi 👋 Yeah upsizing today, I was going to flip at day 15 but I think I’m going to up pot and intoduce them to the 1k mh @ 14 hrs for a while longer, I feel like they could be a little healthier before going into flower but they sure do grow fast. 2 of the HxP are the most vigorous out of 17 total plants We have a tomato farm and a tomato would take 4weeks in this little pot. It’s been a while! Fun stuff 😊
 

Stoneroller

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Five weeks in the flowering update! The colas are fattening up, and accumulating some frost. I can see darker shades of green reappering on the edges of the leaves, but also some leaf tip burns and curling down, maybe indicating i could ease a bit with the biobizz supplementation. Regardless, I gave them another topdress today to see them through the middle flowering and watered with plain H2O. I was happy to see some worms working on the previous topdress near the surface!

After all, the plants did not explode out of the tent with the relatively short veg period (~5 weeks) and switching straight to 11/13 photoperiod, but are very manageable sized in the 120x60 cm (4x2 feet) tent. I could have vegged a little longer, but i prefer short and wide structure with lots of light on the buds for better top colas to lower trimmings ratio. I guess bigger plants would be too hungry for this container anyway, as the release of organic nutrients is on the slower side! 😄

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TexasTea

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Looking nice man. :) Are you starting to get aromas?

I'm having the same exact issues dialing in this go round for some reason. I keep thinking it probably is calcium/magnesium. I'm not too concerned though because these always turn out great.
 

Stoneroller

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Looking nice man. :) Are you starting to get aromas?

I'm having the same exact issues dialing in this go round for some reason. I keep thinking it probably is calcium/magnesium. I'm not too concerned though because these always turn out great.
Not much aromas when i open the tent, but touching the sugar leaves reveal clean and sweet lemon/lime scents on both of them. The stem rubs are more savoury, i can detect some carrot and maybe celery. Very nice!

Yeah, i guess there is always little something here and there, when there is no total control of the environment variables (optimal temp and RH, light intensity 24/7 etc), or if the feeding and watering is not perfectly on point. But i hope doing our best will get us decent results!
 

johnnylawrence

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It's not really time for an update yet, but this clone at about 44 or 45 days is doing so well that I wanted to post a couple of quick pictures. First, check out a pic of the old seed plant at very close to the same number of days in flowering. It had major problems related to defective soil. Then the clone daughter, taken today. You can also see a few Mango Haze tops in the upper-right corner of the middle photo. This was grown in Happy Frog soil using only basic Jack's Classic (Veg and Bloom Booster) fertilizers at moderate strength and tap water. I am guessing I should begin to back off on the Nitrogen in the next week or so(?)
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TexasTea

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Even though I could not correct my minor feeding or balance issue, this plant is coming along beautifully. She smells delicious with the expected citrus musk but no Earl Gray black tea which I would have liked to get again. I guess that's why people keep cuts, hehe...

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Stoneroller

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Flower day 44. The chunkier one is turning red, while the lankier is keeping it green! Seems like i am going to have two different phenos, which is interesting! Smell on the red one is straight up lemon cleaner. Green one is harder to pinpoint, although it is still in the same citrusy ballpark, with some softer "greener" undertones.

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Keif Cake

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Chop day finally arrived last night.

This one didn't want to stop reflowering. There's a considerable amount of amber present, and when it exploding one more time reflowering, it started throwing out nanners screaming harvest me!

Wonderful smells of gasoline present, and something else. The yield definitely wasn't disappointing.

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johnnylawrence

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She's still growing like crazy. The recent pics I posted were at about 43 days, here are a couple more today at 50 days. Because I also have another plant in the cabinet, I have been giving her an extra 15 minutes of light compared to the last run (11 hours and 15 minutes vs. 11 hours last time), but I doubt that would account for much difference in growth. I will begin to gradually reduce the photoperiod very soon, anyway. It's hard to believe it's the same plant as last time, lol. I have started giving Fox Farm Big Bloom and a bit of liquid Kelp fertilizer. That proved to be a good combination at the end of the last run.
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tjmccoy

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All my sexy Ace ladies are about to jump into the pool! Hahaa. 1 week into flower, They’re going into a kiddy pool living soil SIP design! All I could get was pink but I suppose that’s fitting for the ladies after all!

It might get a little crowded in there in late Flower but we have the vertical space, I suppose I’m pruning most side branching and going for some fat big colas 1k vert style!

The pool on top holds about 90 gallons of soil and has drain holes drilled into it. The pool on the bottom is the res and holds about 35 gallons to 5 inches deep, the top pool sits on 6 inch spacing. The drain pipe goes down into the reservoir and will be packed with soil as the wick. I figure I can control the wick by just adding or removing soil anytime since my whole are can fit. The reservoir can hold an aquarium heater and give me control of soil temps. The res has an airstone also keeping things fresh down there! Hopefully she can sink a tap root down in the res, is the thinking too.

However im not currently going to run the res and sip until they start to root up better im just going to just keep the pipes open for a while for air flow, mist the top soil.

There’re going into a living super soil, that literally has the whole kitchen sink in it. I wish I would have made it sooner as it just finished giving off heat for a few days. Currently my plants have excess N due to top dressing some rabbit poop that stuff had a lot more N that I thought but My super soil in the pool should be more moderate on nitrogen. One of my biggest HP is really N stressed I transplanted her, removed all the rabbit poop and put a little plain soil around her. Live and learn.

Well that’s where I’m at with things.

Awesome vibes over here on Ace seeds! Dubi is always so professional, full of knowledge, fair pricing, choosing ace genetics is a no brainer I think!

Cheers 🍻

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