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Hmastrings 2011 "Striking seeds in the patch."
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I have never been any good at transplanting. My method has always been direct seed into moisture in the ground in early April. They germinate, start growing and don't stop. Tap roots headed for China.
Last year I made the mistake of seeding some in the hayfield right by the house. When they got about 2' tall the wife spotted some and freaked out. She has some probation officer coming up here to buy eggs.
I didn't want to kill them so I went out with a shovel to dig them out. The ground was loose and nice because we had no rain and I just stuck the shovel in the ground near the plants and wiggled it a bit and the plants pulled right out with a perfect bare root system.
I took them out to a little patch I was allowed out back and every one took right off.
I would say that bare root is the only way to go.
df
Last year I made the mistake of seeding some in the hayfield right by the house. When they got about 2' tall the wife spotted some and freaked out. She has some probation officer coming up here to buy eggs.
I didn't want to kill them so I went out with a shovel to dig them out. The ground was loose and nice because we had no rain and I just stuck the shovel in the ground near the plants and wiggled it a bit and the plants pulled right out with a perfect bare root system.
I took them out to a little patch I was allowed out back and every one took right off.
I would say that bare root is the only way to go.
df
Badbeans
Hey brother I appreciate the caring and I’m here just about done with everything enough to drop a line and update the thread. Gets real busy and stressful during harvest I’m sure everyone feels it.
Let me start by giving props to a great grower named biteme he was a mentor to me this year and I learned too much to take it all in. This was my best season ever and this year started off with 6 strains ended up with 4-- Blue Mataro fem and Blue Hash fem both recommended by DS Toker and Bubble Gummer fem and Med Man regular reccomended by brother bite. Great year dry and very little leaf spot and we had close to 14 days in row of pure sunshine in September no rain at all. The flowers were in full bloom there has to be some Midwest guerrillas dancing in the flowers this year!!!!. Nothings weighed yet but in the neighborhood of 10lbs of rock solid bud.
My buddy bite and I as well as hearing it here on ICmag noticed that everything was running late this year still haven’t figured it out something really strange going on in the weather patterns. I had seeds in every plant even my nonfems and some of the fems were so bad it looked a bucket of pollen was dumped on them. I lost at least 4 plants with close to ½ lb each due to hermie but the pollen was very centralized never spreading from plant to plant just pollinating with in its self very strange. But hey I love hash doesn’t everyone. Love to hear if anyone else experienced anything strange like this??????
Anyone grow Med Man by Mr. Nice this year sure like to talk to someone who did. Mr. Nice is a well-respected breeder and I’m not here to bash anyone but I have to say this strain is more hype than high. I still have to do some more testing of individual plants I only sampled one so far but with preliminary results I cant recommend it. Yes the weed is equal in potency to all the other strains I grew and it has a good skunky smell and taste but it’s not the medicine it was billed as and with a harvest date of Oct 15th and beyond( I still have one in the bush) its not worth the extra harvest time too many other strains that will give you the same love for less time. Love to hear from others on this one I may have it all wrong.
Hey brother I appreciate the caring and I’m here just about done with everything enough to drop a line and update the thread. Gets real busy and stressful during harvest I’m sure everyone feels it.
Let me start by giving props to a great grower named biteme he was a mentor to me this year and I learned too much to take it all in. This was my best season ever and this year started off with 6 strains ended up with 4-- Blue Mataro fem and Blue Hash fem both recommended by DS Toker and Bubble Gummer fem and Med Man regular reccomended by brother bite. Great year dry and very little leaf spot and we had close to 14 days in row of pure sunshine in September no rain at all. The flowers were in full bloom there has to be some Midwest guerrillas dancing in the flowers this year!!!!. Nothings weighed yet but in the neighborhood of 10lbs of rock solid bud.
My buddy bite and I as well as hearing it here on ICmag noticed that everything was running late this year still haven’t figured it out something really strange going on in the weather patterns. I had seeds in every plant even my nonfems and some of the fems were so bad it looked a bucket of pollen was dumped on them. I lost at least 4 plants with close to ½ lb each due to hermie but the pollen was very centralized never spreading from plant to plant just pollinating with in its self very strange. But hey I love hash doesn’t everyone. Love to hear if anyone else experienced anything strange like this??????
Anyone grow Med Man by Mr. Nice this year sure like to talk to someone who did. Mr. Nice is a well-respected breeder and I’m not here to bash anyone but I have to say this strain is more hype than high. I still have to do some more testing of individual plants I only sampled one so far but with preliminary results I cant recommend it. Yes the weed is equal in potency to all the other strains I grew and it has a good skunky smell and taste but it’s not the medicine it was billed as and with a harvest date of Oct 15th and beyond( I still have one in the bush) its not worth the extra harvest time too many other strains that will give you the same love for less time. Love to hear from others on this one I may have it all wrong.
Great news! Glad you and your garden are doing well.
badbeans
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It sounds like you had a good harvest.
Thanks for the strain info. Its always good to have for selecting what to run next year. I crossed a certain Mr nice strain from my list this year too. Would you say Blue Hash was your best performer? I was considering running it this year but I didn't. Maybe next year.
stay safe and stay smokey
bb
Thanks for the strain info. Its always good to have for selecting what to run next year. I crossed a certain Mr nice strain from my list this year too. Would you say Blue Hash was your best performer? I was considering running it this year but I didn't. Maybe next year.
stay safe and stay smokey
bb
Ok blue hash lets see if I can give it a proper explanation and remember DS Toker recommended it to me and he gives a way better description than I can because he has grown it longer.
We had a dry year but remember I'm from the Midwest not the southwest so I proclaim it to be very mold resistant for such tight nugs and huge colas. The bud is rock solid hardly any leaf matter (leaf to bud ratio). All plants went in the ground between May15 -20th has a light fruit smell (if you let it ferment in a bag you get a rotten fruit smell while still wet but not dry) and bag appeal is out of the world. Not doing very a good job here sorry but this one has huge colas and like DS Toker said if you can afford to let this one go until first week of Oct. do so because it will fill in like a flat chick after a boob job. Plants were 5.5 ft tall fully flowered and nothing under 1/2lb these aren’t fluffy buds that’s for sure. Some of the plants can come down last week of Sept. but let them go if you can.
Big large indica leaves and the small ones are covered in resin. We had a huge wind storm went to check on them and a few were so damaged I had to harvest on the spot. Wasn’t prepared so the machete came out and the whole plants were hung in the timber. Came back the next day to use my hand pruner to break them down and put them in bags. The leaves had lost their water content and when I got back it was a trimmers nightmare all the leaves were just glued to the buds arrrrguhh!!! I hate even thinking about it.
You know what I forgot to mention structure sorry about that. Early on I wasn’t pleased with the structure the plants they seem to branch off at 90 deg rather than 45(standard Christmas tree structure) I was afraid they wouldn’t hold up under any weight I even asked around on IC mag. In the end I lost probably one branch per plant and had to tie up many others or they would have broken and I didn’t have to do that for any other strains and the bubble gum was pretty dense not as dense but tight nugs and I didn’t have to tie any branches off. It didn’t matter though because if you're after yields this one will make you happy. Like any farmer I have to bitch about something and the less love i have to give to any single plant let alone 10 or 20 the better the strain and that brings this one down, not off, but down on the grow multiple times list.
Now I have to say I must not be a hash plant fan because the taste well please keep in mind no cure but there wasnt any discerncible taste to me very plain. You get that sweet after taste on your lips very pronounced alomst feels sweet but no noticeable taste while smoking. Very smooth smoke as you would expect with all the resin and no green matter. Potency was rock solid no couch lock but a solid 7 - 7.5 that’s for sure. As for leaf spot resistance we had a dry year so I cant really give any great data. It had leaf spot but nothing to worry about the most leaf spot resistant plant I had was bubble gummer by fem seeds no spots at all on this one.
As far as what the regular Joe likes to smoke, in my area anyway, I find it’s the very green bud with the minty taste I think peeps refer to it as piney with a skunky smell. Mataro Blue is done from Sept 15th –25th and it has good stone and piney taste with the skunky smell. You wont get the rock hard buds though. The one thing I feel compelled to mention it was the one plant that showed hermie tendencies more than any other strain,just throwing that out there, your results may differ.
No body saw late flowering this year or seedy plants besides me, that cant be the case, maybe everyone’s charitable foundations are following their grow on icmag sort of like picking your live lobster out of the tank hehehehe???
We had a dry year but remember I'm from the Midwest not the southwest so I proclaim it to be very mold resistant for such tight nugs and huge colas. The bud is rock solid hardly any leaf matter (leaf to bud ratio). All plants went in the ground between May15 -20th has a light fruit smell (if you let it ferment in a bag you get a rotten fruit smell while still wet but not dry) and bag appeal is out of the world. Not doing very a good job here sorry but this one has huge colas and like DS Toker said if you can afford to let this one go until first week of Oct. do so because it will fill in like a flat chick after a boob job. Plants were 5.5 ft tall fully flowered and nothing under 1/2lb these aren’t fluffy buds that’s for sure. Some of the plants can come down last week of Sept. but let them go if you can.
Big large indica leaves and the small ones are covered in resin. We had a huge wind storm went to check on them and a few were so damaged I had to harvest on the spot. Wasn’t prepared so the machete came out and the whole plants were hung in the timber. Came back the next day to use my hand pruner to break them down and put them in bags. The leaves had lost their water content and when I got back it was a trimmers nightmare all the leaves were just glued to the buds arrrrguhh!!! I hate even thinking about it.
You know what I forgot to mention structure sorry about that. Early on I wasn’t pleased with the structure the plants they seem to branch off at 90 deg rather than 45(standard Christmas tree structure) I was afraid they wouldn’t hold up under any weight I even asked around on IC mag. In the end I lost probably one branch per plant and had to tie up many others or they would have broken and I didn’t have to do that for any other strains and the bubble gum was pretty dense not as dense but tight nugs and I didn’t have to tie any branches off. It didn’t matter though because if you're after yields this one will make you happy. Like any farmer I have to bitch about something and the less love i have to give to any single plant let alone 10 or 20 the better the strain and that brings this one down, not off, but down on the grow multiple times list.
Now I have to say I must not be a hash plant fan because the taste well please keep in mind no cure but there wasnt any discerncible taste to me very plain. You get that sweet after taste on your lips very pronounced alomst feels sweet but no noticeable taste while smoking. Very smooth smoke as you would expect with all the resin and no green matter. Potency was rock solid no couch lock but a solid 7 - 7.5 that’s for sure. As for leaf spot resistance we had a dry year so I cant really give any great data. It had leaf spot but nothing to worry about the most leaf spot resistant plant I had was bubble gummer by fem seeds no spots at all on this one.
As far as what the regular Joe likes to smoke, in my area anyway, I find it’s the very green bud with the minty taste I think peeps refer to it as piney with a skunky smell. Mataro Blue is done from Sept 15th –25th and it has good stone and piney taste with the skunky smell. You wont get the rock hard buds though. The one thing I feel compelled to mention it was the one plant that showed hermie tendencies more than any other strain,just throwing that out there, your results may differ.
No body saw late flowering this year or seedy plants besides me, that cant be the case, maybe everyone’s charitable foundations are following their grow on icmag sort of like picking your live lobster out of the tank hehehehe???
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Great review, thanks for takin the time to do it and share! I know this is the time of year where time itself is at a premium with what everyone has goin on! lol Damn son, you midwest fellas aint slackers or dummies that's fo sho...Congrats for a successful season pard...CC
CC
Thanks for stopping by I just give my honest results I dont have a indoor show so everythings from seed so take all my comments with a grain of salt as with most strains if you do a pheno hunt I'm sure theres different traits to be had from this strain.
I cant wait to hear about some of the strains you grew maybe a midwest brother can pull one or two of them off outdoors maybe even a kush.
Thanks for stopping by I just give my honest results I dont have a indoor show so everythings from seed so take all my comments with a grain of salt as with most strains if you do a pheno hunt I'm sure theres different traits to be had from this strain.
I cant wait to hear about some of the strains you grew maybe a midwest brother can pull one or two of them off outdoors maybe even a kush.
badbeans
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^^^ Damn nice review Hamstring.
The Blue Hash sounds really good. Would you say the "average Joe" likes the Blue Hash? Or does he just prefer the Mataro?
that hermie thing doesn't sound cool. any thoughts as to why they went like that? stress or what? In my short growing career I've been fortunate to not have hermies I guess.
any pictures?
bb
bb
First person to bring up the hermie thing I will expound on that later.
Blue Hash, I give up trying to understand what makes a good strain to the average Joe. The peeps I have smoked it with are impressed with the keef they get after throwing it into a grinder and the density of the bud its like large marbles or pine cones, I heard that one recently. What they don’t like is the color which once dried you don’t have the ultra bright green color and of course not its because the bud density and the fact I was able to let it get fully ripe but what I do I know I’m not a bud connoisseur that’s for sure. In the end the taste is the one thing I see holding it back if it had a more pronounced taste it would be tits, big tits and who doesn’t love big tits.
Alright lets talk hermies I was noticing about 4weeks into flowering that I was seeing seed pods on all plants some way more drastic than others and I mean every single plant all of the plants being products fem seeds. Like previously mentioned I had some plants that looked like nothing but seeds and with out exaggerating I can say the Blue Mataro was the biggest culprit of this hermie phenom.
I was in contact with another Midwest grower and as soon as I mentioned it he was out in his plots and came back to tell me the same thing seed pods in almost every plant he had and he was running different strains the I. Based on that I am not willing to blame it on any one strain or breeder. I remember reading in the “Leaf Spot” thread guerillas were saying they saw late flowering too so something strange going on but need way more input so will have to wait for DS and the rest of the gang to get done with harvest to comment on this.
First person to bring up the hermie thing I will expound on that later.
Blue Hash, I give up trying to understand what makes a good strain to the average Joe. The peeps I have smoked it with are impressed with the keef they get after throwing it into a grinder and the density of the bud its like large marbles or pine cones, I heard that one recently. What they don’t like is the color which once dried you don’t have the ultra bright green color and of course not its because the bud density and the fact I was able to let it get fully ripe but what I do I know I’m not a bud connoisseur that’s for sure. In the end the taste is the one thing I see holding it back if it had a more pronounced taste it would be tits, big tits and who doesn’t love big tits.
Alright lets talk hermies I was noticing about 4weeks into flowering that I was seeing seed pods on all plants some way more drastic than others and I mean every single plant all of the plants being products fem seeds. Like previously mentioned I had some plants that looked like nothing but seeds and with out exaggerating I can say the Blue Mataro was the biggest culprit of this hermie phenom.
I was in contact with another Midwest grower and as soon as I mentioned it he was out in his plots and came back to tell me the same thing seed pods in almost every plant he had and he was running different strains the I. Based on that I am not willing to blame it on any one strain or breeder. I remember reading in the “Leaf Spot” thread guerillas were saying they saw late flowering too so something strange going on but need way more input so will have to wait for DS and the rest of the gang to get done with harvest to comment on this.
badbeans
Member
The Mr. Nice plants I grew this year didn't begin flowering until second week of Sept. I thought they were supposed to finish end of Sept, early Oct. I harvested one plant today, the other one looks like it needs two to three weeks WTF?. We had sleet yesterday, I doubt the other one will finish. They both have a few empty seedpods that I found. But it has been a difficult season for them drought, then terrible August and Sept weather alot of rain. This was my first time growing in this spot and leafspot wasn't a real problem for me. Not much mold either. Fat sticky flowers, we'll see how they cure and smoke. I won' t grow them again next year though.
bb
BB
Hey brother I am with you my medman was good weed but I still have one in the ground too may not get a chance to pull it. I will not grow it again either. Its always a crap shoot when trying new gear thanks for the insight much appreciated you should throw up the strain names maybe someone else can jump in with their experience.
Hey brother I am with you my medman was good weed but I still have one in the ground too may not get a chance to pull it. I will not grow it again either. Its always a crap shoot when trying new gear thanks for the insight much appreciated you should throw up the strain names maybe someone else can jump in with their experience.
