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Highland Thai, Johaar, Lemon Candy, Syrian, Rhino D

aliceklar

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Pruned out all the Ethiopian male branches apart from a couple of vestigal ones I'll be keeping a close eye on, in case I want more pollen later. End of the 3rd week since flipping to flower cycle and everything is budding up nicely.

I've started giving the Johaar its own reduced nutrient feed, as some of the lower leaves were crisping and browning at the margins - the clawing as well I think is indicative of overfeeding.

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aliceklar

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Thanks Shiva. Yeah, the girls are starting to look pretty now. There was a moment when I was mixing some water and looked up and the light was shining through the sea of buds, and if there was a soundtrack there would be angels singing, yknow?

Pollinated one bud from each group with the AK auto pollen - so x Johaar, x Highland Thai & x Lemon Candy. Also collected a last tube each of Highland Thai & Ethiopian pollen and froze them, having pollinated a few buds with each.

And then found a rogue male flower on the floor, and realised that Lemon Candy #7 (one of the grafts I'd done that had never really taken off and had stayed tiny) had quietly matured and ripened 3 or 4 flowers - which must have had an opportunity to blow all over the place. Ooops. Well, if I get any unexpected seeds or off types in the Thai, I'll know who dad was! Decided to carefully snip off that branch and ended up accidentally taking two other branches with it... sigh... thankfully the plants are bushy and vigorous - they will fill the gap pretty quickly.
 

zif

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And here's the graft joint for one of the Lemon Candy. Sorry bad photo - it was a difficult angle to get to! Not pretty... but effective. The tape had just started to peel off, showing how underneath the plant had built a big tough knuckle of scar tissue to bodge it all together.

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The knuckles can be pretty striking! I currently have a gnarly one, too, on my Mental Floss x Sweet Skunk, about four months after the graft:
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aliceklar

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The knuckles can be pretty striking! I currently have a gnarly one, too, on my Mental Floss x Sweet Skunk, about four months after the graft:
Nice knuckle! Calloused cannabis graft knuckles would be a niche subforum. As well as a gnarly tonguetwister.
 
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aliceklar

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Seeded bud in front, unseeded behind (same pheno)
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And this one has a "Son, one day all this will be yours" vibe to it.
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Pollinated a few more Johaar, Thai and LC phenos with the Ethiopian. Want to have a few different lines to play with. Interested to see what it will bring to the F1s.
 

aliceklar

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Plants took a couple of days with no watering whilst I was away for xmas - I've given them all a good soak, watering to runoff on all of them. They look fine. Hopefully they'll be OK. This is the second time I've grown Johaar and Highland Thai but last time it was in compost - using coco and liquid nutes with controlled pH & ppm is a different game, but at least I can tell they are vigorous and tough - they survived all I threw at them last time.

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This batch all in tall 4 litre pots. The big Thai #4 is super thirsty - she was on the verge of wilting a little but not quite there. Glad I didnt leave her any longer.

They are getting big now. Not a lot more headroom. I'm hoping the stretch is done now :D

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Both the Lemon Candy and the Johaar have interesting terps. Lemon Candy is probably not a great descriptive name, but its easier for now to say than to recite the lineage each time. Lemon, for sure. Some of them have a hint of mint humbug, but there's a whole load more of eyewatering lemon floor-cleaner solvent and dank musty plasticiene (these I remember from the Johaar side on previous grows). Here as well some intense - and also eyewatering - herbal high notes. Hard to put finger on it, but it reminds me somehow of a sharper tiger balm, with something like eucalyptus, but not really. Heh. Also like but not like mint, fennel, or rosemary. Buds mostly looking pretty wispy so far.

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aliceklar

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Happy new year all! Emerging briefly from the cave to post some pics. Still praying that the stretch is done - its almost at the end of week 7, 11/13 light cycle. Smells intensifying. The few Johaars I had are smelling sharp lemon floorcleaner/plasticiene, the Lemon Candy have this plus a faint underlying stank + something else tasty I cant put my finger on, and the Highland Thai are developing a musky ginger spice. None of the smells are so pervasive yet that I've had to engage the carbon filter. A definite plus to growing less stinky sativas.

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Pleased with the bud formation on this Lemon Candy

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Interesting growing the Johaar and Highland Thai again in a different medium. Much healthier this time round, and I'm curious about what they will produce vs last time (last time I got little more than a big jam-jar full from the female Thai I grew). They are so much happier in coco with liquid nutes than they were in small pots of compost. Ideally they should be in the ground, but that's sadly not possible where I am... 4 litre pots of coco with liquid feed at c 500ppm seems to be a sweet spot (might be a little bit much for the Johaar, and not quite enough for the Thai, but I cant be doing with mixing multiple different feeds - I'm hand watering 2-3 times/day as it is). They are sufficiently root-bound to limit the crazy tall growth, but are staying healthy enough with the liquid nutes to produce lots of bud.

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aliceklar

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End of 7th week. Stretch just about done, I think. I supercropped one more of the Thai's, right in the middle of the front. Buds developing nicely and some very different phenos showing. There are about 11 different Thais on 4 rootstocks.

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A lot of the Thai is long and spindly like this.
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But a few phenos are much chunkier. All smelling great.
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This one is the late-germinating runt I nearly composted. Glad I kept her!

Here's the Johaar that was grafted onto the Ethiopian male. Its a bit behind the others as it didn't get much light until the male was pruned right back after providing pollen. Sparse, pearl-like buds.

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aliceklar

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Lemon Candy likewise showing different phenos including chunkier buds but I'll be selecting mainly on terps and effects. Here's #1, which was accidentally grafted onto a male LC and was also delayed because it was shaded out for a long time. Very spindly, but smells great.
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And some with bigger buds. Some looking quite advanced.
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Movement13

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End of 7th week. Stretch just about done, I think. I supercropped one more of the Thai's, right in the middle of the front. Buds developing nicely and some very different phenos showing. There are about 11 different Thais on 4 rootstocks.

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A lot of the Thai is long and spindly like this.
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But a few phenos are much chunkier. All smelling great.
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This one is the late-germinating runt I nearly composted. Glad I kept her!

Here's the Johaar that was grafted onto the Ethiopian male. Its a bit behind the others as it didn't get much light until the male was pruned right back after providing pollen. Sparse, pearl-like buds.

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I’m growing the johaar looks nice
 

aliceklar

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I’m growing the johaar looks nice
She's great - you can expect a fair bit of variation in the chemotypes of individual plants as its used by the locals to make charas, but I hope you find something you like. The terps are lovely and the effects are clean and uplifting. Also, Johaar is a really hardy, forgiving plant, super vigorous and tolerant of extreme training. Just dont over-feed - go really light on the nutes.
 

Movement13

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She's great - you can expect a fair bit of variation in the chemotypes of individual plants as its used by the locals to make charas, but I hope you find something you like. The terps are lovely and the effects are clean and uplifting. Also, Johaar is a really hardy, forgiving plant, super vigorous and tolerant of extreme training. Just dont over-feed - go really light on the nutes.
Thanks
 

aliceklar

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Just found the first mature seed on one of the Thais. I felt it coming off as I was moving a branch whilst trying to trace which grafted branches were which. Noticed the spindly Thai pheno is basically one plant - P1.5 - which ended up grafted twice and takes up a fair bit of the growroom as its so tall and vigorous. There are at least 4 different phenos with shorter habit and chunkier buds (including runt #12), and I have seeds made with all of them.

[P2.7, P2.10, P2.11 & P2.12 - all various types of snub-nosed chunky buds, some longer colas some fatter. P1.4 is closer in form to the long spindly P1.5 but a little fatter in the body of the colas. There are a few other grafts that got shaded out... Some differences in the terps, too, although all variations on the distinct musky ginger. V excited to see all the variety... cant wait to smoke test these :D]

Excited to see the differences, excited to find out what differences there might be in the effects. My MO is generally to make seeds with almost everything, keep records, and keep growing the seeds of the th ings I most enjoy smoking and growing. Increasingly feel like the lines of seeds I'm growing year by year are part of my family.

Just noticed the top cola of the P2.12 runt, which had been supercropped down to avoid hitting the light and was hiding behind the pearl-necklace LC#1. What a beaut. A proper handful.

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aliceklar

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P1.5 still stretching :eek: Its a beast. I've just had to trim off some of the spindly tips to improve light penetration and keep the buds away from the lights. Canopy is messy, with different phenos with very different forms. Depending on how they all smoke, I'd like to do a Thai grow just with seed from the chunkier phenos.

In other news, got myself a dehumidifer. Aiming to keep the humidity below 55% for the rest of flowering.
 
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