help yellowing tips on two week old plants

[DocLeaf]

piss hempKat,,, this dude's done his homework already... lol

You are not a Monk by any chance are you 4iiii's ???

Good bit of knowledge... I shall consider my parade pissed on...
peace DocLeaf

N.B.
A good soil needs nothing for the first 3weeks anyhow...

 

[HempKat]

This was a parade? I thought I was just answering the thread starter's question originally? If I had known it was a parade I would have built a float. Made of double ply super absorbant tissue in case anyone wanted to piss on it.

Okay 4iiii'z. well I veg until the plant pre-flowers, usually 6 to 8 weeks. This doesn't always match up with my transplant routine so I've been known to veg 10 weeks.

I don't consider an organic feeding regimine a quick fix. It is what it is, a feeding schedule. The more balanced, stable, and geared towards your plant the better. Urine is a great quick fix because as you noted it contains nutrients in a form best suited for plant uptake. So it would be a fast acting feed. Sure it has other elements but it's not balanced by any means.

I'm not saying urine is bad per se. Just that it's not for me nor is it a great solution for beginners. I'm an indoor grower, using urine regularly is just not something I want to do in a confined space. Plus since my plants complete nutritional needs are covered already it's not needed. If one wants to consider it as part of an outdoor organic routine then that's fine, more power to them. Even makes sense since the smell marks your turf and may help deter some animals. (although not much).

You seem to want to champion urine as the wonder fertalizer of the growing world which it just isn't, otherwise gardeners the world over would be using urine exclusively and there would be few options available for other ferts.

 

[DocLeaf]

Yep, ^^^ as ever everything I wanted to say but didn't have the energy to think about and explain ...it's a good job someone is awake.

Anything yellow-green in my garden gets a dose of this bloom fert check the N:K

peace dLeaf

 

[4iiii'z]

and it's not a great idea

I'm not saying urine is bad

make your mind up

Just that it's not for me

so you expect every one to feel the same way as you
hmmmm interesting

and there would be few options available for other ferts.

Just because the hydro shop sells a product, doesn't mean there aren't any better alternatives.
for example final phase is a complete waste of money
but people still buy it

it's a good job someone is awake.

that would be me
pokes / DocLeaf & HempKat
wake up its time for school

[edit] grammer & syntax [/edit]

 

[4iiii'z]

Last edited by DocLeaf : Today at 10:23 AM.
N.B.
A good soil needs nothing for the first 3weeks anyhow...

we are talking seedlings here DocLeaf
A good soil would burn the hell out of it

 

[Guest]

Jeez!.....Pissing on your plants hey??...Surely in this day and age a man cannot be so hard up that he has to piss on his crop.

All I am saying is I would not toke buds that have been pissed on at any stage of there lives by me...yet alone sample ganja that someone else has pissed on coz they could not afford a bottle of biobizz...

But then again I am a 'Pot Snob'!

Peace.

 

[4iiii'z]

You seem to want to champion urine as the wonder fertalizer

before Y'all start pointing fingers
I wasn't the one to bring urine into the dicussion

my part was to question HempKat's statement
which in my opinion is wrong

please feel free to prove me wrong, but lets see some facts
like I had the courtesy to do

 

[Guest]

Hey 4iiii'z,

Mellow Dude... No beef here with anyone!... Just found it amusing to the point that I felt compelled to voice MY opinion...

Keeping It Piss Free...lol

Peace.

 

[4iiii'z]

But then again I am a 'Pot Snob'!

we seem to have a lot of pot snobs here at ICmag
there's nothing wrong with being a snob
but forcing your snobbery on to others is not on HempKat

 

[Blackmelo]

we all get it. Piss is a good fertilizer and it is free. In fact piss is probably better than alot of manufactured fertilizer.
If some1 offered me some miracle gro and piss, I think I would chose the piss...
But it still is a disgusting concept and like hempy said, good, but definetely not the best.
We like to think we are giving our plants the best, I know I do.

And besides... Nutes are probably the cheapest thing in my growroom. I keep it simple.

It is much better to have an understanding of your plants needs than to be feeding wrong and trying to compensate by feeding some 80 pounds worth of canna's new plant enhancement product...
Feeding right will give the best results, not spending loads on the booster.
The booster will only help once you have tweaked absolutely everything else.

 

[4iiii'z]

its all about knowledge
the ability to make an informed desicion based on all the facts

I personally prefer to use BioBizz products
but in the past, when times where hard
I was grateful for the knowledge & the choices available to me
no one noticed that the weed had a diet of urine
to this day my friends have no idea

its our little secret ok

hehehehe

 

[Guest]

LOL....you little Sneak 4iiii's...

No worries...as with any secret told on here...It stays here...

Lmfao...

Peace.

 

[DocLeaf]

we are talking seedlings here DocLeaf
A good soil would burn the hell out of it

Ok. so I buy yo'all a lesson on me.

Outdoor soil is the same for both seedling and plant... indoor sure people start in one soil, then move into another ...( now we be taking ya back to nature perhaps, huh? )

A "good soil" (the term is subjective) relies upon the fact that avalible nutrients are slowly released with applications of water. Guano is taken up by soil substraits and in turn plants in this way.

This gets us onto the subject of guano. Bat Guano (the shit of bats) is decomposed (and in places fossilized) by urine (bat piss). Urine has been useed for centuries as a main-stay supply of nitrogen. Medieval monks adopted this technique, as do the peoples of Asia. in fact the best fields are those that smell so much of piss and shit that the toads in the ditches die from the fumes... these paddies provide the best crops.

In outdoor settings, the first thing that usually happens after planting, is that a fox or deer, or wolf comes along and pisses on the plant to regain its territory... (animals work on smell)! (yo sativa3000 you never know what/who might have pissed on an import)...

A quick note: HempKat is a sage of cultivation,,, attempting to teach such an established grower the pros and cons of fertiliser is like teaching ya grandmother how to do drop stitch...

less flames more thinking please ppl...

peace out dL

 

[DocLeaf]

Note: I assume (my first mistake) that HempKat is the one and same 'HempKat' from OG, not 'HempCat'.

can somebody please confirm this... peace

 

[BeAn]

Cool thread lol...

Cool thread lol...

 

[4iiii'z]

Last edited by DocLeaf : Today at 10:23 AM.
N.B.
A good soil needs nothing for the first 3weeks
A "good soil" (the term is subjective)

less flames more thinking please ppl...

you know precisely what Im talking about DocLeaf
"good soil" like BioBizz all mix has an EC of 2.4
this is way too hot for a cannabis seedling
please stay on topic

btw
if U dont want flames - stop giving out fuel

 

[DocLeaf]

stfu dude.. in the past have used Bio-Biz All-Mix for Haze#19xSkunk seeds by the 100. (with 98% viability) and for jack herer, hollands hope, bubbledust, Angel Dust, Dutch Dragon, infact most seeds/seedlings get planted str8 into whatever soil is at hand... same goes for clones.
Agreed All-Mix is heavy in places, so sometimes you need to sieve out the cloads first, that's all.

We is yet to buy a bag of pre-mix, that's for sure

These seedlings were sown directly into Canna professional:



Then transplanted into coco fibre and pebbles... huh?



this kinda turns the table on the usual method, huh?

like I say, (no offense) but I'll buy you a lesson on me perhaps...

*I'd suggest this is the reason why your plants require urine (nitrogen) during the first 3 weeks of veg. Sort out your soil and you won't need to bottle the piss... lol

peace out n bloom
dL

 

[4iiii'z]

stfu dude

I thought better of you DocLeaf
Im very disappointed
please follow forum guidelines

Flames are posts intended to insult and provoke
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=280

*I'd suggest this is the reason why your plants require urine (nitrogen) during the first 3 weeks of veg. Sort out your soil and you won't need to bottle the piss

I personally prefer to use BioBizz products

 

[4iiii'z]

These seedlings were sown directly into Canna professional
Then transplanted into coco fibre and pebbles

why transplant them into a neutral medium ?
why not leave them in Canna professional ?

same goes for clones

please stay on topic

 

[BeAn]

Dude...

Dude...

Chill man... Smoke a blunt..



We're all freinds here, no need for hostilities..