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bibi40

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Sure you can do better with the sun .
But how many hours of sunlight did you have ? ,
it make big difference .
Indoor i start with 24/24 of light and after 18/6 for autos ,
and finish them at 12/12 if i need ( for place issue ) .

What' s about you ?
Whatever , great start for your plants and enter the contest just for fun mate :biggrin:
 

tetragrammaton

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Around 15 hours of sun, the sun rises around 6:30am and it doesn't start getting dark until around 9:30pm but since it's now officially summer here today, the days will begin getting shorter.
 

tetragrammaton

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Sigh... Day 10. 3 of my Sweet Cheese Auto's are perfectly fine, but ONE is falling victim to a mysterious pest that I need to identify and take care of ASAP. In my outdoor grows in Indiana I didn't have to worry about pests, and I've never had to deal with any pests indoors. This same insect in question however destroyed my jalapeños I was growing outdoors a few years ago. I don't want them to multiply and infest the others. As of right now, I only noticed one or two, and they are only attracted to one of the Sweet Cheese. My other 3 sweet cheese's are fine, which is strange, but good. My Diesel is also fine.

The insect in question is tiny, white (or clear) and flies. They go under the leaves and eat. Luckily the damage wasn't severe, but I need help to insure an infestation doesn't happen.

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) I wasn't able to get a picture of said insect, because when I noticed marks on the second set of leaves, sure enough I looked underneath the leaf and the little bastard flew away, but I will be vigilant so I am able to capture an image if it is required.

I've heard neem oil does the trick for most pests, but I'm not sure what it's called in spanish, to ask for at the grow shops or wherever they sell that stuff. I'm also not sure how to apply it.

Anyway, here is a picture of my attacked Sweet Cheese Auto, that while still healthy and loving the sun and growing, has been attacked by these mystery bastards. I'm in Chile if that helps any of you insect experts and today is the first day of summer and first day these bastards appeared.

Hopefully (wishful thinking) the damage on the second set of leaves (you might have to zoom in) will be able to help identify what is causing me this inconvenience, and hopefully they won't start attacking my other plants.
 

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pongster

90% sure it's white flies (mosca blanca), very very common here. they are not very harmful, but they can surely stunt small plants.

check the back of the leaves for eggs or flies, at night they rest there.
at this stage you can use a cotton tip to remove them, but sooner than later you'd like to get that neem oil. i hardly think of it as an insecticide, but it's mostly a deterrant... it does certainly keep them away.

in spanish is just aceite de neem. if you can't find it in growshops, you can try organic gardening stores. mine is "saranya" brand, made in olmué.

personally, i put a little with a plastic fork in a plastic cup, fill with warm/a little higher than room temperature water, stir well and then half of this mix goes to the sprayer; the sprayer then gets filled with water.

spray the plant and the soil surface; spray around if you can. repeat after 3-4 days. if you can afford a decent sprayer it will do wonders, if you use a cheap one, spray from far, avoid big drops (i use the cheapest one, the most chinese one lol, no problem).

cheers!
:rasta:
 

tetragrammaton

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Day 12

Day 12

Day 12 from sprouting. Sprouted on the 12th, and seeds were planted directly in the soiless medium, and kept moist. Two on December 7th, and the other 2 on December 8th. Seeds do what seeds do IMO and I think paper towel germination methods and other methods are unnecessariy. Never had a problem with a plant germinating within 7 days with that method.

Attatched are pictures of my "garden". 4 Sweet Cheese Autos, 1 cherry tomato plant, 1 rocoto (hot chili pepper), and basil. Also a Diesel bagseed in the small pot. Only one found in an oz. If it turns out to be female, it will be transplanted into at least a 30 L pot. No clue how it will be, it's just for fun.

As you can see with the individual pics, my sweet cheese auto appear to be pretty uniform. The two that are slightly behind in growth were planted a day later than the first two, but sprouted at the same time, so idk, perhaps they're a different pheno, I don't know, as they appear to be 3 days behind in growth than the others.

However, in one picture, I noticed something I've never seen before in a seedling. One of the Sweet Cheese Auto's first set of leaves (the normal single leaf ones) has an extra leaflet on one leaf. Pretty cool.

Nothing but sun in the upcoming forecast. Luckily none of my plants have been attacked since one sweet cheese auto was attacked by the "mosca blanca", but luckily it didn't stunt any growth and I haven't noticed any more. I still plan on getting neem oil though to have just in case they decide to return.

Also, probably a stupid question with an easy solution, but I haven't used forums of any sort in quite some time and I forget or am not sure how to get my pictures to show up full size in my posts, rather than just attatchments that you have to click on to see. Any help regarding that is appreciated.

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bibi40

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You have to go in your album and copy/paste the BBcode in your post .


Merry christmas .


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tetragrammaton

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You have to go in your album and copy/paste the BBcode in your post .


Merry christmas .


:tiphat:

So I should upload my pictures to my album first? The way I've been doing it as of lately is just emailing myself the pictures from my phone, downloading them, and then uploading them via the "attatch image" option in the post from my computer.

Apart from that, do my plants look on par for what Auto's should look like on day 12?
 

bibi40

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Yes you have to create an album and upload the pics in ,
the when you click on the pics in your album you can see and copy the BBcode at the bottom of your pics .


And yes your autos are nice for 12 days , they will grow gently at the beginning and gonna explode in the stretch phase ( around day 20-25 usually ) .


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tetragrammaton

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Awesome! I can't wait! I'm hoping I enjoy this strain, and autoflowering strains in general
but am also looking forward to planting my Green Poison Auto's once these are done.

Regardless, I'm staying loyal to Sweet Seeds and look forward to experiencing modern autoflowering strains. I'm just hoping I can reach and hopefully go past the stated 30g per plant exterior yield minimum.

With the sun, great seeds from Sweet Seeds, and Plagron nutes I have faith that they will be great, and am hoping for a bountiful yield but as stated in the OP, I've never grown a modern autoflowering strain. Just MDanzigs Master Low, and some Sour Diezel x Haze seeds from fellow ICmag member La Buena Hierba, but they weren't feminized and out of the 6 I sprouted, they all were males. :( Gave the rest to a buddy but heis a novice and out of the remaining seeds, he was unable to get any to germinate despite my basic instructions :(

All of my 4 Sweet Cheese Autos are praying to the sun right now and loving it, so tomorrow I hope to see more growth and will have futher updates.

Peace, love, and sweet smokes to everyone!
 

tetragrammaton

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Well, I just got back from the growshop, where I purchased the seeds, to inquire about neem oil. I was informed that neem oil is prohibited in Chile. I'm not sure why. Any ideas?

Like I said, only one plant was affected, and I haven't seen anymore since, and haven't had any more damage, but he explained to me that they are attracted to the smell of cannabis and that's why.

He told me to make a "trap" first, by using any type of yellow plastic, coated in vegetable oil, or any other type of cooking oil, and put it somewhere near my plants, and they will go there and die. He also said, if they re-appear or gets worse, he has an organic product that will work, but he told me not to waste any money unless they become a problem, and if they reappear then to use the trap. He also told me regular sticky fly traps will work as well.
 

bibi40

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Neem oil is prohibited in a lot of country ,
don't know why ...


just use rubber tape for mosquitos , will be ok :tiphat:
 

bibi40

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And 30 grams per plant is easy with autos ( 14 liters pots minimum i think ) ,

don' t know about plagron feedings , only use bio bizz schedule , but in my last outdoor grow i achieve more than 30g/plant with only organics granulates ( chicken shit ) , and it' s not the same sun at all :laughing:


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tetragrammaton

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Day 14. Two weeks complete. Plants are enjoying the sun. As you can see, I put down a trap for the mosca blancas, but haven't had any issue since that one day, but I did however create a larger trap away from the plants, that captured and killed around 5. The following are 5 pictures. A group shot, and then each individual plant.

Edit: I created an album and uploaded the images to said album, and then uploaded the images here by posting the link from my album and they still show up as attatchments. What am I missing?

 

bibi40

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Good mate !!!


So funny ,
your plants are exactly same ages of mine ...


Good than your issue is finished .


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tetragrammaton

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Sigh... Day 15 and a problem arises in ONE plant. As I was watering my plants, my favorite and most vigorous Sweet Cheese Auto, I noticed many ants emerging from the substrate. There were no ants in any of the other Sweet Cheese's, nor my Basil, or Cherry tomato plant, so I'm not sure why or how they got there, but they are there.

I made a thread in the Infirmary section, but while waiting on people to provide a solution, I googled solutions, and found out that ants hate cinnamon, and it was recommended that I put a tablespoon of cinnamon above the substrate. It also said if that doesn't do the trick, to disolve a few tablespoons of cinnamon in 1 liter of water, and then water my plant that way.

As you can see, I added the cinnamon, not just to the ant infested plant, but to all of the other plants as well as a preventative measure.

Also as you can see, I set up a homemade "ant trap by taking some french bread, and pouring energy drink on it. I don't know if it will work, but I'm hoping it does, so I can eliminate a good portion of them. I also sprinkled cayanne pepper around the bottom of the pots. The yellow you see in all of my plants, is a yellow plastic bag covered in sunflower seed oil, cut into strips, and weighed down by rocks, as a trap for whiteflies. It seems to be working very well.

Any additional help or advice is appreciated as far as these ants.

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Day 14. Two weeks complete. Plants are enjoying the sun. As you can see, I put down a trap for the mosca blancas, but haven't had any issue since that one day, but I did however create a larger trap away from the plants, that captured and killed around 5. The following are 5 pictures. A group shot, and then each individual plant.

Sigh... Day 15 and a problem arises in ONE plant. As I was watering my plants, my favorite and most vigorous Sweet Cheese Auto, I noticed many ants emerging from the substrate. There were no ants in any of the other Sweet Cheese's, nor my Basil, or Cherry tomato plant, so I'm not sure why or how they got there, but they are there.

... taking some french bread, and pouring energy drink on it. I don't know if it will work, but I'm hoping it does, so I can eliminate a good portion of them.

hi bro,
kind of sure the traps with energy drink attracted the ants, they are fast.
timing is everything in farming, need to act quickly...
best wishes
:rasta:
 

tetragrammaton

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Day 19. These pictures were taken a few hours before 12:00am January 1st, so the last pictures of these plants of 2019. January 2nd they will be 21 days and have completed 3 weeks of growth.

I'm really enjoying the experience of seeing how these plants grow, leaf pattern, color, scent, etc...

I've noticed an increase in growth since I last posted, and all I forsee are these getting larger and larger.

As far as the problems that I had encountered along the way, they seemed to have been solved. The cinnamon did the trick as far as the ants, and the yellow plastic with sunflower seed oil is working by repelling them I think, rather than attracting them, because for whatever reason they went away, and I haven't had a problem since, however I don't see them getting stuck to the trap. Other small flying insects yes, but whiteflies, no, so I'm not sure why they went away, but I'm glad and hope they don't return. Question: Should I continue to use the yellow plastic/oil for preventative measures? Or should I be safe to remove them? I obviously remove them when watering my plants, but then return them.

In order, the first is my most vigorous plant, and the one that had a problem with ants in the substrate. The cinnamon took care of that problem. The second is my second most vigorous plant, that was slightly attacked by whiteflies on the second set of leaves, but as stated I seemed to have solved that problem, and the plant appears to be growing as it should be. It's still not as vigorous as the first one, but very close. The last two plants are the least vigorous but they are quickly catching up. While all 4 sprouted on December 12th, the last two were planted on the 8th, rather than the 7th than the two more vigorous ones, but once again, they are quickly catching up.

Within this coming week I expect to see some real growth, now that the roots are being established, more leaves are growing = more photosynthesis going on. The plants are loving the sun and the heat, however in these pictures which were taken at night, you can see that the leaves are resting. During the day they are praying to the sun.

From other grow reports I've seen on Sweet Cheese Auto, this coming week I should start to see a lot of growth so I'm looking forward to that. I also enjoy just spending time with my plants and staring at them. Cannabis plants still fascinate me just as much as they did the first time I saw one in real life.

Any advice, or comments negative or positive are welcome. I will post another update on January 2nd when they complete their 3rd week. Happy New Year to everyone as well!

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Peace and Love,
Tetra
 

bibi40

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Hi mate ,


yes your plants are good ,

they will now start to strectch and show first preflowers soon ...
At this point it can be interesting to do a little Lst :)


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