help with sick clones

[Shliite]

what are you using for light incandescents bulbs???

i was using two 32w daylight cfls, but i shut one off after the 4th day or so to give them a little more shade.

also do you have a dome over it?

ya i have two cups stacked on top of each other with some holes poked on the top for a little air exchange:

I never rooted in rockwool I have rooted in peat pucks not harder to root in rockwool.....

i was originally going to use some rapid rooters, but i was told it wasnt a good idea to put into a hydro system and was advised to use the rockwool cubes. One thing i should have done differently was soaking it in a lower pH water, I used distilled water and didnt supplement with any nutrients.

 

[MynameStitch]

You are supossed to soak them with ph adjusted water for 24 hours prior to using them.....

I would bet those clones are lost, also when you got these clones did you just put them into rockwool? Did you slice the bottom a bit to help root growth?

 

[simplelife]

hey, dont stress, just make new clones

hey, dont stress, just make new clones

Hey,
Why dont you just start over, i know it sucks but the sooner you make new clones the quicker they will come. Just make a simple bubbler setup. ive had really good success with this method. search for it on ic.
The key to the bubbler is clean water, good aeration and proper temps. if you can go to a aquarium shop and pick up a hang on the back filter with a small UV light built in to it. This will circulate your water and KILL unwanted bacteria. Then you will also need a air pump with air stone. I think that your minimum water volume should be about 6 liters. So find a tuperware box of about 6-8 liters. Make sure it is colored so that light cannot reach the water. Then cut holes in the boxes top for the clones to go inside.
Here is a pic to make it easier to understand.



You can see the aquarium filter, and built into it is a small UV light. This works really well. i had 100% on my first run with hashberry and lavender.
Make sure that you use a light that is aroung 15-20 watt cfl. You dont really want them to photosynthesize, but they need light to survive.

 

[Shliite]

I would bet those clones are lost, also when you got these clones did you just put them into rockwool? Did you slice the bottom a bit to help root growth?

no, i cut underwater at a 45 degree angle and immediately dipped into a rooting solution. I didnt slice the bottom. I've heard of this method but didnt know enough about it to be completely comfortable, does this help a lot?

Why dont you just start over, i know it sucks but the sooner you make new clones the quicker they will come.

Well the K2 clones came from a clone (which was taken off a re-vegged mother), and unfortunately they arent big enough to have any more taken at this point. Also that particular grow was with a partner and it is not completely my decision as they are not in my posession.

The NLxBB is one of the 2 females out of a 10 pack of seeds, and the last living of the 2. This clone came from a plant that is outdoors and has already started flowering a few weeks ago. At this point it may be too late to take any more cuttings even if there are any available (there is only one main bud spot other than the cut i have already taken).
Is it possible to take a clone off of a flowering plant outdoors? I'd really like to preserve the genetics, as this particular pheno looks like it could do really well in the right conditions.

I dont really have the space for a bubbler cloner like that in my veg room, but i do have a 6 site SWC with 4" net pots in a very similar container that i was planning on using with these clones.

 

[simplelife]

hello

hello

Can you take a good picture of the outdoor plant? i want to see it. If you really want to experience stress-free cloning you need to try the bubbler. With a couple of small purcheses i can help you make a simple system. When you are using medium and a dome to root your clones, it is difficult to maintain a proper level of moisture. Though many people are very successful with this traditional method.
You had mentioned that you 'cut' the base of the clone underwater, well you shouldnt ever cut it using scissors. You need a sharp razor blade to prevent damaging the delicate cutting.
Well anyway show me the outdoor plant(the best picture you can make) and then maybe i can tell you if its possible to get a clone from her. I dont know what your current situation is exactly, but you can pretty easily order good genetics at a very affordable price.
Dont feel discouraged just yet, you CAN make clones, you just need to adjust your method

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

there done for man.
even if you did recover them it would take forever.

 

[MynameStitch]

Yes cutting them at a 45 degree angle does help a lot.
But if you cut it to deep you will damage that part of the clone and it will root, if you see like a V shape you cut to deep inwards you just need to shave a very small shave off it, like you peel string cheese. the smallest pice of string cheese is what the piece you shave from the clone look like.

 

[Shliite]

Can you take a good picture of the outdoor plant?

Ya, but not for a few days or so until i can get out there again. Here is a pic of a different outdoor plant i have that is similar in structure - single cola with very small bud sites coming from the main stem. (i think this is a sweet warp) I should note that the NLxBB has been budding for about 2 weeks longer and has bigger flowers than this plant.

with a couple of small purcheses i can help you make a simple system.

I recently built this SWC bubbler that i was going to put the clones in when they have rooted. I was wondering, would it be possible to drill a few holes in between the net pots to stick clones in? I think it should work as long as i cover everything so no light gets through to the water. Also, if i used this - should the base of the stem be completely submerged in the water or on water level with bubbles giving them a little mist?

I dont know what your current situation is exactly, but you can pretty easily order good genetics at a very affordable price.

Ya, I know. I got the nirvana 6 pack special. Six packs of nirvana seeds for $75 - Ak48, blue mystic, bubblicious, cali-o, papaya, and white rhino. Also i got Resevoir's limited release Hindu Kush x Diesel #1. Also got a freebie pack of Sweet Warp.

The NLxBB and K2 are from a previous purchase, also from nirvana. This NLxBB plant is the only surviving female (there were only 2) which is why i am especially interested in preserving the genetics. I popped 5 Sweet Warps and 3 White Rhinos a few days ago because i realized these were probably not going to make it. Its going to put me behind schedule a lot (because instead of veggint out these clones for a couple weeks and flowering them knowing they're female, i now have to start from seed 2 weeks later, sex them, take clones and flower them).

On a side note - would these sacks produce viable pollen if i popped them at this point? This is a papaya male outside.


Thanks for the input everyone, i was getting lonely in here.