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Help....Canna Coco and nutes?

shredGnar

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Looks like a calcium shortage with the burnt tips and the spots. Also see some K or burning issues I think.
If you don't have enough calcium you are going to run problems with K uptake (and mobility of nutrients in general).
Liebig's law of the minimum says growth is controlled by the least abundant resource. Consider what effect that might have if one of your nutrients is out of range. If growth speed is controlled by the scarcest variable, that means the nutrients that you supplied in abundance will probably build up.
As far as plants drooping.. I'd guess if your roots are nice it also has to do with the nutrients. If there is more sunlight than they can process, they droop their leaves to conserve energy.

Cal/mag are the first nutes to get locked out when the plants are under oxygenated, in my experience
 

EastCoast710

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yes I have a ph meter.. my bluelabs ppm meter stopped working of course it did right lol.. gay.. I need to try and take it apart and see if the solder has disconnected any wires or anything...

but ya I water ph.. 5.8-6.2 and yes I have 3 calibration liquids brand spanking new.. a new ph pen.. new ph pen cleaner.. everything in that regards..
 

EastCoast710

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so should I wait another day or so . see if the little bit of drying out helps. then feed with a light feed on the ones that look burnt.. and heavier on the ones yellowing out?
 

EastCoast710

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another good piece of advice i can offer is get away from them grow bags ! they don't let much air into the root system . go with pots with plenty of holes in them , or better yet , fabric pots . you'll see a big difference in the roots & the way the plant grows .

I will poke some holes in these grow bags.. at the time it was all I had to transplant them into..


I would transplant into something else but I just don't know if I could do that without stressing them out a bunch,
 
Z

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Yeah Ca is hard to absorb in soggy soils but if his roots are perfectly healthy like he says that can't be it.
And his pH is good, otherwise low pH will do it.
Since I know Canna is low on calcium that's where my thought process went.
Good luck with your issues man!
 

dansbuds

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no flush & feed them all the same . they are all the same strain right ?

I would do the flush today , then tomorrow start with the higher feeds every other day . they will look over watered for a day or 2 , but this way if there is an imbalance , the flush will clear that up & the higher dosage will help give them what they're lacking . they'll perk up over a few days & start to look better .

can you get a heater in there to bring the temps up a bit higher ? or slow the fan speed down for a few days to help dry them pots out while your recharging the coco .


i'm willing to bet its just the colder temps & the lack of air getting to the root system , basically your keeping them soaking wet & the coco is going into imbalance because of it . just went through this myself when i transplanted my next round into my tent . cold temps & new pots of coco that hadn't built a good root system yet took 12 days before them came out of shock & started growing as they should .
 

EastCoast710

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thanks to everyone who is trying to help me.. I got discouraged and was in a horrible mood this morning.

thanks to you guys and a few dabs.. I am back to being happy and I'm ready to fight this problem head on..

ya nice white ass perfect looking roots too.. u can see the top of the coco has roots growing everywere also.. nice healthy beautiful babies.. but I think I underfed to be honest..
 

EastCoast710

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no flush & feed them all the same . they are all the same strain right ?

I would do the flush today , then tomorrow start with the higher feeds every other day . they will look over watered for a day or 2 , but this way if there is an imbalance , the flush will clear that up & the higher dosage will help give them what they're lacking . they'll perk up over a few days & start to look better .


no .. diff strains. I have. 6 diff strains..the ak47 has kinda burnt tips... the rest are looking deficient..
 
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Ziggaro

One more thing.. Calcium and magnesium are separate. Just because they come in a bottle together a lot of times doesn't mean your calcium problems are mag problems and vice versa. Adding mag if you don't need it will affect K uptake.. it's all about balance!
 

dansbuds

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no .. diff strains. I have. 6 diff strains..the ak47 has kinda burnt tips... the rest are looking deficient..

thats going to be tough then ! each plant is going to want something different . your going to have to read the plants as they grow & decide what they're lacking or getting to much of . not an easy task ! if your hand feeding it will be easier to adjust the feeds accordingly ..... but thats why i like to mono crop . some plants are just finiky feeders !!!

i wouldn't up the feeds on the AK then , leave it where you have it as far as dosage .
 

EastCoast710

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no flush & feed them all the same . they are all the same strain right ?

I would do the flush today , then tomorrow start with the higher feeds every other day . they will look over watered for a day or 2 , but this way if there is an imbalance , the flush will clear that up & the higher dosage will help give them what they're lacking . they'll perk up over a few days & start to look better .

can you get a heater in there to bring the temps up a bit higher ? or slow the fan speed down for a few days to help dry them pots out while your recharging the coco .


i'm willing to bet its just the colder temps & the lack of air getting to the root system , basically your keeping them soaking wet & the coco is going into imbalance because of it . just went through this myself when i transplanted my next round into my tent . cold temps & new pots of coco that hadn't built a good root system yet took 12 days before them came out of shock & started growing as they should .

my roots are at 72.. temps in the room are above that.. 78-80..
 

EastCoast710

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thats going to be tough then ! each plant is going to want something different . your going to have to read the plants as they grow & decide what they're lacking or getting to much of . not an easy task ! if your hand feeding it will be easier to adjust the feeds accordingly ..... but thats why i like to mono crop . some plants are just finiky feeders !!!

was going to do a mono. but my dome of gg4 clones.. lid got hit off a tiny bit. came down to all dried out and dead the next morning. only 3 survived.. so I had to go with what I had.. figured if this doesn't clear itself up. I'm going to take my 3 gg4s.. clone the fuck out of them. and sog in ffof.. to get the ball rolling.
 

Tardigrade

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Tapwater? What ppm does it come out at? If more than 2-300, use better water. Coco loves RO water.

Lower your pH to 5.8, or slightly lower. I have lots of strains lockout Magnesium at 6.2 or above, your girls are starting to show that intraveinal chlorosis that is a telltale sign of it.

Raise your temps in your room. Those girls look cold, those deep purple stems show up from cold temps, so get it up to 78 with lights on. Speed controller on your exhaust fan usually works.
 

EastCoast710

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like is aid.. root temps 72.. room temps 78-84..

I'm trying to fix my ppm meter. until tomaro my check will be here and ill be able to buy wat I need..
 

dansbuds

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was going to do a mono. but my dome of gg4 clones.. lid got hit off a tiny bit. came down to all dried out and dead the next morning. only 3 survived.. so I had to go with what I had.. figured if this doesn't clear itself up. I'm going to take my 3 gg4s.. clone the fuck out of them. and sog in ffof.. to get the ball rolling.


yup , same problem here !!! cloning just isn't fuckin working ! had to throw 4 moms in the tent to help fill it up , sux , but what can ya do !!!
 

EastCoast710

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yup , same problem here !!! cloning just isn't fuckin working ! had to throw 4 moms in the tent to help fill it up , sux , but what can ya do !!!

have 0 problem with clones.. the shelf I use. has lights under the dome.. and above.. so the temps are perfect they root fast .. and all I just retardedly left the lid off a tiny bit . and the lack of humidity fucked it up lols.
 

EastCoast710

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anyone that runs coco. can you take a picture of what your coco looks like before you think its time to water.. is it supposed to be more that orange real dry look. or the dark like in my pics?
 

shegrows

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anyone that runs coco. can you take a picture of what your coco looks like before you think its time to water.. is it supposed to be more that orange real dry look. or the dark like in my pics?

Coco never has to much water, all what is to much goes out of the pot. When you enter clones in a new coco pot you shouldn't watering every day, you have to wait that the rooting abit. I make it so, for the first week i give water every 3 days, then every day or every two days.. i have a thread who you can see the ph and ec level you should use.

Best wishes
 

EastCoast710

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ya but going from a beer cup to 4 gallons of coco... u can overwater no? I was told yes.. lol. and my plants look overwatered still.
 
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