Haze Experience.....

[mukuku]

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If anyone has smoked weed that really makes you trip I would really like to hear about it.

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I remember a SSH from coffee shop zeeland (terneuzen or vlessingen) that gave me for five minutes a high stronger than every psychedelic I have taken in my life & I'm experienced with a lot of them (the classics !)

that was only weed...I tried oil & I've made one of the most psychedelic trip of my life with an out of body experience & change of the 3D rules...& finaly you wake up on morning & realise you slept on the carpet and you remember watching two télévision & flying by the fireplace to the sky like witches...but without broom

 

[stihgnobevoli]

sounds like some awesome weed.

 

[M.R.GT]

sounds like something I might like to try.

I guess I will have to dig thru a crap load of SSH looking for the acid pheno peps talk about.

The closest thing for me was some premium hash in the Dam about 1990. Went to a coffee shop at Leidseplein called the Rookies coffee shop. At that time there was very little weed mostly just hash. Asked for the best he had in the shop and told him to roll a house joint. that cat rolled the finest cone I had ever seen using just single skin of paper. The joint made it around the shop once and everyone in the joint was done. It was more of a debilitating high not trippy but more like you had drank a bottle of Johnny Walker straight. I was tanked and what was supposed to be a night of clubbing turned into a early cab ride back to my hotel room. I was so jacked I forgot the hash. The next day I went back and he still had my hash but it was just to much for me I told him to have fun with it. he did have some Columbian gold so I smoked that while I was there. I wouldn't touch that other shit it was so crippling that it wasn't fun. One good thing is the guys at the Rookies shop were great, they took great care of my poor stupid ass. Fine people became the place I always had to go when in the Dam. Lesson learned be careful what you ask for in the dam you just might get it.

Im still going to look for some trip weed Im to old for acid and I lost my taste for shrooms 40 years ago.

Thanks for the info Bro.

Peace
GT

 

[Karma G]

Ore even better Pure Headies A5Haze(Original Cut) Dry screen.

Take that 10% and make it 99% pure Headies. ha ha ha

 

[Dave Coulier]

sounds like something I might like to try.

I guess I will have to dig thru a crap load of SSH looking for the acid pheno peps talk about.

The closest thing for me was some premium hash in the Dam about 1990. Went to a coffee shop at Leidseplein called the Rookies coffee shop. At that time there was very little weed mostly just hash. Asked for the best he had in the shop and told him to roll a house joint. that cat rolled the finest cone I had ever seen using just single skin of paper. The joint made it around the shop once and everyone in the joint was done. It was more of a debilitating high not trippy but more like you had drank a bottle of Johnny Walker straight. I was tanked and what was supposed to be a night of clubbing turned into a early cab ride back to my hotel room. I was so jacked I forgot the hash. The next day I went back and he still had my hash but it was just to much for me I told him to have fun with it. he did have some Columbian gold so I smoked that while I was there. I wouldn't touch that other shit it was so crippling that it wasn't fun. One good thing is the guys at the Rookies shop were great, they took great care of my poor stupid ass. Fine people became the place I always had to go when in the Dam. Lesson learned be careful what you ask for in the dam you just might get it.

Im still going to look for some trip weed Im to old for acid and I lost my taste for shrooms 40 years ago.

Thanks for the info Bro.

Peace
GT

Why are you starting with SSH? You'll have a harder time finding the Acid One searching there. IME, Haze Hybrids made with Haze Hybrids Parents only serves to further water down the special highs that only Haze, or O. Haze F1 Hybrids(Sam's) can provide. I believe Sam himself has stated something similar previously about Haze when used in Breeding.

The first Haze Hybrids I tried were Sams and the highs were unique, very powerful, and sometimes deeply introspective, and often times emotional. People were known to get geeked when they smoked it. lol whatever that means. Neither MangoHaze(mr. Nice) nor my own crossing(75skunk/25Haze) ever came close to matching what's available in the F1's of Sam's available as Freebies at the boo. Sure the bud structure was amazing now in those hybrids but the highs were no longer unique or special.

Germ rates were also rather good at 65-70% for 25 year old seeds. Id rather grow more of those freebies than the Nevils Haze or Shantis Skunkhaze in my freezer. At some point Ill give them a chance and have an old school Haze off. Dutch Haze Hybrids versus Sam's Thunk and HazeSkunk F1's. That'll be a fun day in the future.

 

[Weedninja]

Why are you starting with SSH? You'll have a harder time finding the Acid One searching there.

Agreed. You'll find a special plant eventually, but you'll have to go through a lot of crap Northern Lights phenos to get there.

 

[M.R.GT]

O haze would work but the likely hood of finding a keeper with a reasonable flowering time would likely be easier in a haze hybrid. SSH seems to be the one peps keep pointing out to look for an acid pheno.

O haze, sugar haze, indian haze,skunk /haze, Ghaze..... There should be one lost in all of these crosses if a truly trippy one is to be found. My luck I would put in the time and effort only to find something that I really don't care for.

As far as Ohaze I think I would order a pack from the Dutchmen. Sam himself said they have his original stock. They also give Sam the credit for a larger portion of there strains. That seems a more reasonable route than worrying about freebies. They would have to be fresher than the ones I have in my box.

Hey Dave that is some nice dry screen you have there if anything would do trick that would be it.

I don't have a problem with NL it has its time and place normally around 11pm when I looking for some sound sleep and a little relief from my old joints.

Peace
GT

 

[JohnnyChicago]

If what you are looking for is a Haze hybrid you should give a try at Karma's A5.
I haven't tested his A5, but for me A5 was the best balanced NL-Haze hybrid/cut ever, for taste and for the high. Not skunky and fruity at all, just a deep green soapy incensey taste.

And FDM Original Haze isn't original anymore.

 

[MostlyMe]

As any haze aficionado will tell you, the power of haze is best expressed in a cross. Any pure haze still available has lost it's vigour, but the genes come through nicely when crossed. As Dave said, any crosses made beyond that lose their special character. SSH, Nevil's Haze and what have you are very poor starting points for the true haze experience.

There are some haze F1's available. Ace made green and purple haze x thai and several other haze crosses, Sam has the skunk hybrid.

 

[Yo Sammy]

If what you are looking for is a Haze hybrid you should give a try at Karma's A5.
I haven't tested his A5, but for me A5 was the best balanced NL-Haze hybrid/cut ever, for taste and for the high. Not skunky and fruity at all, just a deep green soapy incensey taste.

And FDM Original Haze isn't original anymore.

Just for the record, Karma doesnt offer straight A5Hz.
At best he offers hybridised hybrids using A5 as mom. It might not be so important for you but a haze hybrid is not the same thing as a pure haze at all!
Some growers allready mentioned that haze traits are more diluted when further hybridising the existing hybrids.
A5 is NOT a pure haze, its a hybrid containing 50% Haze A genetics.
Pure hazes are not the most practical plants to grow to say the least, expext flower times way over 15 weeks and with minimal yields. That is the very reason Nevils A & C hybrids were so nice and practical to work with compared to for example his pure Haze B female, flowering over 20 weeks, still stretching and without looks of finishing flower after 26 weeks, the airy flowers etc... No flower ending in sight after 20 weeks isnt practical for 99% of growers.
But haze traits in the best hybrids on the planet, such as A5, C5, HpHz, NH and so on are the finest traits in canna, soaring trippy or clear and energetic electric highs are found where the haze traits are fully empowering the hybrids. But keep in mind that there is a big difference between pure hazes and haze hybrids and even more when the hybrids are further hybridised, especially made with indica dom lineages.

 

[JohnnyChicago]

It might not be so important for you but a haze hybrid is not the same thing as a pure haze at all!

I do prefer pure sativas.



OT1 Haze pollinated by my favorite "the Stinkiest" OHaze Male.

 

[Huesos]

WOW~ JohnnyC~ that's an amazing cross of the Original Haze x OT1haze. Have you sprouted any seeds? Whats the experience?

YoSammy~ thanks for sharing your experience with the haze.

Mostlyme~ yes that's what I am doing in looking inside haze hybrids in search of the genetics behind them. I find the analogy similar to the movie Jurrassic Park in the legends of old inside those seeds.

One example was that I picked the smallest seeds in SSH F2s. The results so far is the haze inside is coming out;

Hi Mr. GT~ my quest is finding the genetics inside the seed that were used to make this legendary hybrid named original haze. So far, things are looking promising;

Hi Weedninja~ yeah, the NL is just getting in the way lol;

DaveC~thank you for sharing your experience. My goal is to explore a wide array of haze hybrids in search of the 10%ers. Then, hone in on these genetics to find the legends inside of them. I am looking beyond the original haze in search of those great sativa's inside.

On the skunk hazes and NH's in your freezer, you just might have some holy grails inside the seed. I found the most badass OH phenol in the skunk haze. She is one of the best I've ever seen. I'll show some pics as the season progresses.

Karma G~ your already ahead of the game my friend. Just amazing and beautiful. that there is ganga gold my friend;

stihgnobevoli, mukuku, and headyblunts: thank you for the collaboration.

 

[M.R.GT]

good luck on your quest. I sure you will find what your looking for.
Peace
GT

 

[JohnnyChicago]

It's a very-long term project. The plan was to find an exceptional Original Haze female, but did just find 2 very promising males. I have more OHaze seeds left and I hope to find the female I'm looking for.
But will test some of the OTH#C X OH soon. I cannot wait. I am to curious to know how they will do.

 

[sianhan]

Fairly sure Karma is releasing an A5 bx also.

 

[Huesos]

Haze Skunk....aka Bully

Haze Skunk....aka Bully

Hi Everyone,

I found one more pure haze looking female in the haze skunk. She has the three leaf profile. I call her bully because she makes most everything look ordinary.

For your viewing pleasure.....Bully.

 

[window]

Beautiful SkunkHaze Huesos.
Here is some Seedsman Original Haze seedlings, I'm going to grow these till I can sex them, take clones and then flower the clones.
I hope too be smoking some haze by summer, next year.

 

[Huesos]

Gracias...

Gracias...

Thank you Window.

I hope you get a bully

 

[Thule]

Just found this thread..

Original Haze along with Indian Haze would probably win the competition for the most underrated strain, they're that good and almost forgotten today.

The very first seeds I ever bought were Indian Haze (Kerala x Ohaze) and to this day the best smoke I ever had. Super clear, psychedelic, calm, yet energetic. I was recently gifted a new batch of seeds so the saga continues.

I never smoked a pure Original Haze but I'll be growing some of those too. The story goes that crossing haze to another pure sativa will create a hybrid stronger than either parent.. I love making new hybrids so my head has been spinning a few ideas. Ohaze x Mextiza, Ohaze x Zamaldelica, Ohaze x Manipur.. and of course a cross for the great outdoors. Not all will come true but those are some of the strains I can work with.

 

[St. Phatty]

I had one particularly vigorous female from Seedbank NL x Haze, purchased about 1990.

Grew really big, indoors, and was happy with the light from a SonAgra 400 HPS - as long as it got all the light. Sort of a light hog.

Very trippy, great for technical work when combined with coffee.