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Haze Breeders/Growers....
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no not a question neither a statement, just i think a lot of people think that an ibl stand for an inbred line, a pure line.... maybe the term pure line speak more than an ibl which is in my opinion overused. i prefer to call a pure line now and a backcross a bx, but its just me, im nothing....lol
NOW I GET YA...
,,,,its another TERM ISSUE.....if i was you dudes id stick to the biology terms,,,,,,
this is the propper biology terms...
IL = Inbreed Line
IBL = Inbreed Backcrossed Line
BC = Backcross
IBL and IL are classed as pure in most circles...
the canna kids call shit by all differnt names,,,,,,the propper biology terms are the only safe bet ,,,imo
,,,,its another TERM ISSUE.....if i was you dudes id stick to the biology terms,,,,,,this is the propper biology terms...
IL = Inbreed Line
IBL = Inbreed Backcrossed Line
BC = Backcross
IBL and IL are classed as pure in most circles...
the canna kids call shit by all differnt names,,,,,,the propper biology terms are the only safe bet ,,,imo
just check the Glossery on some of these propper biology books,,,im sure you can find it
ive been reading some amazing new stuff lately,,,,,,,as soon as i find the name of the Author il post a link,,,,,,,this new stuff is fucin unreal,,,blowing my mind every time
Plant Breeding Reviews, Volume 12 By Jules Janick,,,,,sorry man i cant find volume 1
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=... Allard -inauthor:" Robert W. Allard"&f=false
an the big 1,,,,,Robbert W Allard ...Principals
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=... Allard -inauthor:" Robert W. Allard"&f=false
also check out: Robbert W Allard : Population Genetics
happy learning
ive been reading some amazing new stuff lately,,,,,,,as soon as i find the name of the Author il post a link,,,,,,,this new stuff is fucin unreal,,,blowing my mind every time
Plant Breeding Reviews, Volume 12 By Jules Janick,,,,,sorry man i cant find volume 1
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=... Allard -inauthor:" Robert W. Allard"&f=false
an the big 1,,,,,Robbert W Allard ...Principals
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=... Allard -inauthor:" Robert W. Allard"&f=false
also check out: Robbert W Allard : Population Genetics
happy learning
hey bro, not sure here what your sayin, but i dont think the hazebros did any stabilizin of the Haze. from what Sam has said they didnt keep clones or nothin, just bred outdoors.
addin sativas yearly or so.
haze lines that are around now have had many gens done by growers, maybe TFD has done some stabilizin, but dont think anyone else has actually stabilized the line. then again i guess it all goes to what ya consider a stabilized line.
CBF
cool,,,,thanks CBF,,,,i bet you have some good info on Haze,,,,,hows that Purple Pheno of Toms OTHaze keepin you?,,,,,thats 1 photographic plant bro,,,,,,,,id love to see that pheno breed-true
so,,, are you sayin the Hazebros DID-NOT do any inbreeding?,,,,,did they leave the INCROSSING down to samS or somethin??,,,..
i also didnt relize the Hazebros constantly hybridized the Haze Line year after year,,,maybe they liked the stability they got by Outcrossing,,,,,i duno,,,,,,,anyways it sounds like samS did eveyone a favour by inbreeding the HazeLine,,,,,,i didnt relize the Hazebros constantly hybridized the line,,,thats a sure fire way to water down desired traits,,,,,,i wonder what it looked like when thy started the Hybridization program
i havent kept Haze clones any length of time, just make seed with the best ones i find and move along.
from what ive read over the years, haze bros did the outcrossin, Sam did the rest. pretty sure sam supplyed um with the seed. he was right around the corner from um.
yeah, each year or every other year, they added a sally to the mix, the last was the thai, so should see thai dom plants a large % of the time.
CBF
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Dalaihempy
There are 2 groups of haze 1/ being the real haze that came from the guys called the haze brothers who infact were not breeders but growers that created something special by crossing there best sats to make seeds for the next years grow they were commercial growers.
The haze line did very from the first to the last they made.
All the real work on haze was done in the dam yep most hate this idear but life.
Then we have the 2nd group people calling sativas haze that have no link to the real haze other than them also being a sativa.
The haze line did very from the first to the last they made.
All the real work on haze was done in the dam yep most hate this idear but life.
Then we have the 2nd group people calling sativas haze that have no link to the real haze other than them also being a sativa.
wickid info CBF,,,,,,,,,,,
so,,, haze must have been constantly drifting !!,,,,,i bet the name "Haze" was give at some point of stabiliy tho???
i wonder what "Haze Lines" SamS brought to Amsterdam......i bet he brought over loads of different Haze-related lines ,,,,i cant emagine him bringin a bunch of OutcrossedSeeds tho,,,but who knows?,,not me thats for sure!
id bet they did some Inbreeding in Cali,,,,,do you not agree?
anyways it sounds like samS did eveyone a favour by inbreeding the HazeLine
imo i dont think soo
you kno its been almost 2 yrs since ive been introduced too the online communtiny n ive only seen a handful of descent o.haze descriptions i apologize for not accepting a one line one aroma description but this is the most famous strain of all time n its like pullin teeth too get a smoke report
ive got sams description which was surprising too hear
then we hear about the fruity sams,lime/citrus th n incense hbh which is it id lov to kno exactly i understand there were many varieties lime green blue silver red purple= rootbeer id lov to hear a report on all of them
i appreciate all attempts such as happyhi but id lov to see a more indepth report
as far as i understand i think the mexicans n colombian used the first year were from mostly haze bros collecting along wit sams stock then sam introduced the s.indian kerala n thai he loves soo much
1luvbigherb
imo i dont think soo
you kno its been almost 2 yrs since ive been introduced too the online communtiny n ive only seen a handful of descent o.haze descriptions i apologize for not accepting a one line one aroma description but this is the most famous strain of all time n its like pullin teeth too get a smoke report
ive got sams description which was surprising too hear
then we hear about the fruity sams,lime/citrus th n incense hbh which is it id lov to kno exactly i understand there were many varieties lime green blue silver red purple= rootbeer id lov to hear a report on all of them
i appreciate all attempts such as happyhi but id lov to see a more indepth report
as far as i understand i think the mexicans n colombian used the first year were from mostly haze bros collecting along wit sams stock then sam introduced the s.indian kerala n thai he loves soo much
1luvbigherb
Precisely what is crazy about what I said ?
All the real work on haze was done in the dam yep most hate this idear but life
if this is soo how come the best haze has come from the cali meaning the legend of 70's from santa cruz
do you consider tfd to be superior to watever was considered haze bros haze from cali
caz the descriptions dont even match {WEll the few we have}
as far as i understand the sweetness from thai/s.indian was dominant in haze after sams brought her to holland
im not familar wit sweet haze
also interesting too me is the claim of the locals in holland that hold this cut in rotterdam its purposed to be catholic church incense
how come ?
were has this gone?
wat haze carries this trait ?
sorry had too run ill be bac shortly
1luvbigherb
if this is soo how come the best haze has come from the cali meaning the legend of 70's from santa cruz
do you consider tfd to be superior to watever was considered haze bros haze from cali
caz the descriptions dont even match {WEll the few we have}
as far as i understand the sweetness from thai/s.indian was dominant in haze after sams brought her to holland
im not familar wit sweet haze
also interesting too me is the claim of the locals in holland that hold this cut in rotterdam its purposed to be catholic church incense
how come ?
were has this gone?
wat haze carries this trait ?
sorry had too run ill be bac shortly
1luvbigherb
Honestly , im not being a snob Owl,,,your statement was just totaly inacurate bro,,,do a lil more reaserch on MHaze,,,,,i think you will change your opinion when you looks back,,,,but thats just my opinion
Disappointed
Disappointed
I am not at all happy with how the last about 3-Pages of the this thread are going.
If I was able to have access to delete posts myself I would delete about half of the posts. I will not ask for the thread to be closed, but I do hope that questions about the origins of HAZE disappear. It is called "HAZE". Haze Bros. founded it, Sam The Skunkman perfected it. End of that story.
I am hoping that more people will leave "pictures" of their Haze, what line their Haze is, How long they veg, How long they flower, their nute schedule? Those types of things.
I think that the work that Tom Hill is doing with his Haze is great and I can't wait until people get his work and grow them out.
Anyone have thoughts on the ACE project? Any fully flowered plant photos of said project? Any dried bud shots of said project?
To those working with Haze (and not Haze hybrids), keep up the good work. I like the interest that is getting sparked via this thread and I hope it inspires people to dust off some old Haze beans and get to dropping them in some dirt. Like I said I was exhausted after the last run and still am but the interest from people in this thread got me going again and is keeping me going.
Disappointed
I am not at all happy with how the last about 3-Pages of the this thread are going.
If I was able to have access to delete posts myself I would delete about half of the posts. I will not ask for the thread to be closed, but I do hope that questions about the origins of HAZE disappear. It is called "HAZE". Haze Bros. founded it, Sam The Skunkman perfected it. End of that story.
I am hoping that more people will leave "pictures" of their Haze, what line their Haze is, How long they veg, How long they flower, their nute schedule? Those types of things.
I think that the work that Tom Hill is doing with his Haze is great and I can't wait until people get his work and grow them out.
Anyone have thoughts on the ACE project? Any fully flowered plant photos of said project? Any dried bud shots of said project?
To those working with Haze (and not Haze hybrids), keep up the good work. I like the interest that is getting sparked via this thread and I hope it inspires people to dust off some old Haze beans and get to dropping them in some dirt. Like I said I was exhausted after the last run and still am but the interest from people in this thread got me going again and is keeping me going.
It is called "HAZE". Haze Bros. founded it, Sam The Skunkman perfected it. End of that story.
as for sams perfection i dont agree and really its only just begun
becaz we dont even have an accurate/percise/endall description of o.haze/hbh
i understand this is ur thread n the origins were not the topic but wen you say you hav and old haze line you should exspect interest n debate
owl
its all lov n respect
but brotha watcha drinkin you hav said alotta crazy shit i dont know if your burnt or wat knowledge is power understanding n reasearchin is key
i understand you are just spreadin your wings soo read as much as you can
check mns web site for info reguarding mh it is not sams wrk
read origins of haze thread for som insight
1luvbigherb
as for sams perfection i dont agree and really its only just begun
becaz we dont even have an accurate/percise/endall description of o.haze/hbh
i understand this is ur thread n the origins were not the topic but wen you say you hav and old haze line you should exspect interest n debate
owl
its all lov n respect
but brotha watcha drinkin you hav said alotta crazy shit i dont know if your burnt or wat knowledge is power understanding n reasearchin is key
i understand you are just spreadin your wings soo read as much as you can
check mns web site for info reguarding mh it is not sams wrk
read origins of haze thread for som insight
1luvbigherb
Debate? That is great that is great if people are speaking with "KNOWN" fact. I welcome it as I am sure many do. Interest? With the amount of views that the Thread has that alone shows the interest. Which is great and the point of the Thread. I wouldn't even care if people questioned the HAZE of which was gifted to me (as I state in the opening of this thread, I don't know where this line of HAZE originally came from), but man some of the posts are just rubbish. Sometimes it is just best to take your fingers completely off of the keyboard and just read and watch. Read an watch. Read and watch. Read and watch.
Note: not directed towards bigherbs postings on icmag.com
Calm down dudes ...we don´t want a Haze hill thread again
I´ve grown TomHill´s Haze and Oldtimer´s Haze so far,and was lucky enough to sample several TFD OH grown outdoors and indoors, in Spain.
I have grown and smoked a lot of Haze hybrids as well.
TomHill´s is still my favourite
I´ve grown TomHill´s Haze and Oldtimer´s Haze so far,and was lucky enough to sample several TFD OH grown outdoors and indoors, in Spain.
I have grown and smoked a lot of Haze hybrids as well.
TomHill´s is still my favourite
