Hawaiian Sativas

[MAHA KALA]

Jay from Federation/Next generation mentions the addition of more BLD into their hawaiin Sativa on his potcast interview.

Wasn’t exactly sure if he meant back in the day at federation or in his next generation release(which is now BLD heavy).

I don't know version of next generations seeds, but they mixed indica in at Hawaii in my opinion. almost all sativas were crossed with indica in 80s in western world... very few stated untouched. even 90s mexicans are different to those from 70s due to it.

pics are in this album:

https://www.icmag.com/media/albums/mix-ii.15251769/

but I don't know if it is visible for you though. it sucks.

 

[Lolo94]

Possibly Colombians and Thais are too long in flower

mexican and Swazi are shorter flowering times and more likely to make it to harvest before a major rain event

Johnny D was a Hilo grown (Panaewa if I remember right) strain from the early 90s (possibly earlier) that was a cross of southeast Asian genetics.
Portions of the west side of the islands are quite dry and desert like so there is no reason any strain couldn't be grown there. The wind and lack of cover could have been an issue for large scale production though.

 

[RobFromTX]

Market 1980

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Good grief what a time to be alive

 

[@hempy]

A lot of Thai genetics were taken back to the Islands from returning service men during the Nam war, that was what I was told by a Maui native who knew Mr Maui the ex Cali guy that moved there who some refer to as the Boal (think it is ).

They used all types of lines in the breeding, from Thais Afghan to Hash plants things changed in the mid 80s as a result of a group or groups from Mexico things got crazy people got hurt and worse and the DEA then came down on all of them, and it went down hill from there.

Hawaii is no different to Jamaica or even Thailand these days it's full of Dutch hybris.

 

[FTL]

I don't know version of next generations seeds, but they mixed indica in at Hawaii in my opinion. almost all sativas were crossed with indica in 80s in western world... very few stated untouched. even 90s mexicans are different to those from 70s due to it.

pics are in this album:

https://www.icmag.com/media/albums/mix-ii.15251769/

but I don't know if it is visible for you though. it sucks.

Thanks for the link man.
The loading of the photos is a bit clunky but I could see your KG and a nice national geographic style photo

@mexcurandero420 what was the year that Hawaiin price list came out?
Interesting to see that Puna was the primo then.

 

[Lolo94]

In the hotter and drier areas of Puna such as from Kalapana to Royal Gardens (alot of which is now covered by lava), its possible to grow thicker more indica plants with less mold issues. These were big growing areas before Green Harvest. It could be why the buds from there were considered more potent. When Green Harvest was heavy, many growers grew small plants in bags and would move the bags under cover for 2 or 3 days until Green Haarvest moved on. Word spread quickly once the Green Harvest helicopters showed up at the Hilo airport or KMC in Volcano.

 

[FTL]

In the hotter and drier areas of Puna such as from Kalapana to Royal Gardens (alot of which is now covered by lava), its possible to grow thicker more indica plants with less mold issues. These were big growing areas before Green Harvest. It could be why the buds from there were considered more potent. When Green Harvest was heavy, many growers grew small plants in bags and would move the bags under cover for 2 or 3 days until Green Haarvest moved on. Word spread quickly once the Green Harvest helicopters showed up at the Hilo airport or KMC in Volcano.

That explains a lot.
Cheers.

 

[mexcurandero420]

@mexcurandero420 what was the year that Hawaiin price list came out?
Interesting to see that Puna was the primo then.

I did put the year above the pic, but it was 1980.

 

[FTL]

I did put the year above the pic, but it was 1980.

Sorry man. My bad.

 

[bloyd]

 

[Moxa stick]

In the early 80’s I made my one and only trip to Hawaii. I knew only one person living there, my older brother‘s classmate, who was then on the faculty of the University of Hawaii. We tracked him down and found he was living in a sexton’s shack in the Oahu cemetery as it was probably the cheapest rent he could find on the island? Outside his shed there was a 11-12’ tree in full bud that had been giving an almost perpetual harvest of Colombian gold buds for months. It was also a home to small lizards…I don’t know if it was the lizards, jet lag, or just a perfect home for the gold, but that was the highest I had been since my initiation to weed in ‘74. I took a few beans back to the Midwest with me but they had no chance of ever maturing outdoors. As I remember they didn’t even begin to flower until mid September.

 

[Lester Beans]

My friend who was a life long cannabis enthusiast told me this story repeatedly over the years. His adventure bringing seeds to Hawaii in 1968.

My friend was in Vietnam in 1968. He spent quite some time sourcing the best
cần sa. When he found it he requested a larger amount. He gave 10 greenbacks(?! In those days in Nam, that's a lot of weed as he found out lol) to a boy who was his contact near his guard post. Later that day the boy came back dragging a massive bag of cannabis, he figured at least 20 kilos in a canvas bag that boy struggled with, for my friend, who panicked as his CO was close by. He and his buddies filled their fatigue pants as fast as they could and made the boy take the rest back into the jungle. My friend does not know where he was exactly located at the time just that he was definitely still inside Vietnam.

His description of the cannabis was green buds meaning kind of fresh with a good tone to them, filled with seeds, extremely potent rushy initially, freaking out some of the newbies on patrol at night, followed by giggles and perma-grin followed by the best sleep he had gotten since in country. It was a big hit with him and all his pot smoking Army friends so much as they sent record albums home filled with buds and joints. He said weed was easy to find but the papers were a different story.

Shortly after he went to Hawaii, for his R&R, taking a few smuggled sacks of the "jungle bud" with him. He met some locals in Hawaii (I couldn't get a concrete answer on what island or where from him) and they smoked some of their bud with him which he said was great and did not have seeds. He said they had grown it. He said no names were talked about or even a thing in 1968, just Hawaiian.

He then shared some of his jungle bud and it was a big hit there as well. At the end of the week he left the buds and seeds there with his new friends whom he never spoke to again.

I wrote down the story he (r.i.p) told me down before he passed as I always loved it and wanted to get more details. This is just from memory as I don't have the story in front of me. I'm sure many other GI's took weed and seed to Hawaii during the Vietnam War and it was a popular R&R destination.

Also those seeds in the weeds and joints in the record albums were sent to Rochester, New York and grown the following Summer, seeded and those seeds were shared still being grown in the late 90's from what I was told.

 

[MAHA KALA]

 

[@hempy]

When did the Hawaiian growers start using the metric system ?

 

[@hempy]

Out of all the Hawaiian imports we saw land here in the early 80s the best hands down was the early Maui sativa, this is as close as I could find from all the local seed lines left a friend sent me from around Hanna and Up country Maui.