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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
Veteran
he was dominating the conversation because no-one would/could respond with any veracity and rebut his evidence.


while i do not agree with his method of delivery his science is sound, and all of those noises from the catastophists are just that sans contradicting evidence.


what chaps my ass is the complaints against him when those complainers would be better off ignoring this thread for the sake of their sanity...why keep coming back for more humiliation when they could just bugger off to avoid it.


i felt Gypsy' post was indicative of warning the ban hammer was being considered again for this person, just my opinion. i believe he's been banned before for saying pretty much the same thing.


so someone drops some truth another doesn't like and another ban happens...how will that advance the discourse?



we're not dealing with open-mindedness here anymore.
 

Cannavore

Well-known member
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i dont have discussions with raving lunatics sorry. it looks like he gets run off every forum he goes on including actual climate sites where no one knows what the hell he's talking about.

how is ranting like a lunatic helping advance the discourse? shit, my arguments have been prepackaged in the form of youtube videos this entire time. i'm still waiting for him to debunk potholer54's videos that i've linked in here. if he has so much knowledge on the subject then it shouldn't be hard for him to refute them.
 

igrowone

Well-known member
Veteran
he was dominating the conversation because no-one would/could respond with any veracity and rebut his evidence.
...

trichrider,

i don't think you believe that
you do post some actual science references
but run on posts that are obviously intended to cause ill will?
you make full use of this thread, not complaining, that is the intention that opposing views can be aired
but trolling only gratifies the troll
 

igrowone

Well-known member
Veteran
the season mininmum

the season mininmum

i sense a quieting in the dark side of the force
good time for some data and pictures of the northern places
a pretty average melt for the current times, but well below the average trend line of recent decades gone by
that said the minimum looks like it is later this year than usual, may not be the min yet, but should be close
the changes we've been seeing lately is less making of ice in the cold season
will it continue?
 

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H

HBF

Why don't you link them again and we can all look at them together?

If you link something important, persist in giving your opinion about why the video says what it says.

Typically when people know they're right, they aren't bothered by presenting evidence multiple times,

because they know the truth is going to win before very long.

Maybe if you linked to the videos and gave a minutes and seconds point where something happens in the video,

for instance 4:50 narrator says _______ and that means (whatever the conclusion is)

it would seem like you were discussing it rather than just link-don't-think type spamming not that it is spamming,

but typically in the scientific world and legal one, engineering of things, people are expected to run down lists of factual statements or observations and

draw conclusions

solicit others' takes

come to mutual agreement about the science. It's how bridges and airplanes and cars are developed, scientific rigor is scientific rigor.

I know I'm always interested in knowing if a magical gassiness,

had dun - you know,

made a cold bath a heedur,

and I'm interested in hearing every word you've got to say on it.

Since it was suggested by the person who owns the place that maybe I didn't know what I was doing with my account,

I ditched that account,

got on my VPN and generated another email address,

and started an account nobody says I abused.

So - you can finally have your day.

Show us all your evidence a magical gassiness made a cold,

light blocking bath

stopping 29% of the warming energy ever reaching and warming a rock,

makes more than 100% of available energy, come back out.

I figured that since that other old account, would bring back bad memories for you and your magical gassiness dun made a cold bath a heedur

barking friends,

I'd just get rid of it so you don't have to think back on those times when I made it plain in

all caps

and italicized, underlined, emboldened fonts,

that everything you said made as much sense as a cold nitrogen bath is a magic heater, because it made 29% less light go into a rock it was cooling.

I wasn't banned, I hadn't done anything to deserve having anything at all done to me.

I threw that account into a trash can so you can feel like I mean it when I say

I don't need those all caps and underlined, italicized and emboldened fonts to make my point.

You need some evidence to make yours.

So show us.

Your evidence.

That 29% less light going into a rock,
makes more than 100% come out,
because a magicalness to the
gassiness,

made that 29% not go in.

Now.

Don't tell us you've got climate trauma,

show us all your evidence.




i dont have discussions with raving lunatics sorry. it looks like he gets run off every forum he goes on including actual climate sites where no one knows what the hell he's talking about.

how is ranting like a lunatic helping advance the discourse? shit, my arguments have been prepackaged in the form of youtube videos this entire time. i'm still waiting for him to debunk potholer54's videos that i've linked in here. if he has so much knowledge on the subject then it shouldn't be hard for him to refute them.
 

Koondense

Well-known member
Veteran
Show evidence for your statements first. Why would anyone be interested in providing counter evidence to your claims? Set an example.
 
H

HBF

What you don't have is any evidence for any claim you've ever made regarding your fervent belief 29% less light into a rock makes more than 100% of otherwise-available energy come out of it.


^^^
Thank God we don't have blinking text anymore.
 
H

HBF

Your church tells people on it's various websites the atmosphere warms the planet.

That's fraud. Your church's websites show you clearly that the

very

first

step

in resolution of the planet's temperature is the

removal of 29% of otherwise available warming spectra

from the final temperature of the planet.

They also tell you that the very gases creating the vast majority of that cooling - the green house gases,

the ones shown to you on charts of

Sunlight Top-of-Atmosphere vs Surface to be doing the
vast majority of the

29% cooling
that comprises the

very

first

step

in resolution of global average surface/atmospheric temperature -

your church tells you ''the atmosphere heats the planet."

That is f r a u d.

They tell you the cooling green house gases,

the ones doing again the vast majority of that 29% cooling

are making the planet warmer,

than if there were no atmosphere.

The planet and cold nitrogen oxygen atmospheric bath are

33 degrees warmer than they would be if there were no cold light blocking bath,

and the planet had 100% of available energy from the sun.

That is crass open transparent and obviously Conservation-of-Energy violating

f r a u d.

No negotiation.

It's fraud.

Furthermore the people who claim it's not fraud don't process the temperature of the planet properly and come up 33 degrees short of the real temperature we know to be the average global surface and atmospheric temperature wherever we resolve temperature

because we are flying craft - commercial airliners, military craft, other private craft through the atmosphere and we calibrate all our instruments and they match, using the temperature we know

the surface and average global atmospheric temperatures to be.

Any error from this will and does have a reason and in the case of the church of the magical gassiness what dun made a cold bath uh HeeDuR,

they don't resort to usage of the gas law necessary to account the very real, known 33 degree compression component of global atmospheric temperature at the surface.

There is no such thing as calculation of the temperature of something and coming up 33 degrees wrong and also being right.

That is called f a t a l error when mathematics done wrong, arrive at a wrong answer. It is especially fatal when it's well known what the correct answer is and propagators of such open fraud keep squealing that the laws of science aren't real and there is in fact such thing as two temperature calculations that are correct.

Incorrect temperature calculation in gases lead to density errors hence aircraft crashes.

Thermal sensors don't record the climatastrophology magic gas made a cold bath a heater temperature,

they record the correct one.

Every word of it's false because it's a class of fraud called Inversion Fraud.

Calculation of one value - the atmosphere's creating 29% cooling as the very first step in planetary temperature calculation

then with zero proof of anything claiming such 29% reduction in total temperature actually created a warming as less and less light reached the planet to warm it.

That's all there is to it, it's fraud.

From the very same people who brought the planet that pot's like heroin. And today have you logging in here on HTTPS - that S meaning secure - because on the records of the United States and many other nations worldwide pot is claimed to be like heroin,
worse for you than methamphetamine,
and the govenments of the world have criminalized millions - hundreds of millions including those X'd out of global aid programs because they wouldn't agree pot's like heroin,

and all you have to do to check their story is go study their teachings.

Show evidence for your statements first. Why would anyone be interested in providing counter evidence to your claims? Set an example.
 

White Beard

Active member
If he can’t tell Democrat’s from Republicans, or keep normal reality straight, I won’t spend a second on his ‘science’.

If he can’t keep a grip on himself, I’ll just ease in down the road. The empty gesture of “throwing away” his “bad” account to replace it with a new account packing the same incoherence as before isn’t even a nice try.

Maybe he should join a union...
 
H

HBF

All you and these other whiners have done is troll. The owner of the site had to come in here and tell at least one of you stop acting like petulant mentally ill children.

You never stopped.

So finally I ditched my own account after being told by the site owner that I'm not being nice enough. I'm not the one who refused to show any evidence for my claims,

and I'm not the one who had the owner of the place in here telling you and the other illiterates do something other than name call.

I'm not in here to have you run your mouth about what a bad person I am, you signed, and every other one of you people signed,

you accepted an agreement as it were to conduct yourselves with respect and to do something besides petulant childish name calling.

Just because you occasionally come in and link some spam or other to your name calling doesn't mean you've conducted yourself any better than the rest of the name callers.

When you would like to discuss something do it. Just pasting links, then claiming it's debate, isn't.

Debate is when you possess the literacy to put what your claims are into words, and interact with other people who disagree with you,

and not have it break down like this post of yours has: with name calling.

I'm not a troll I threw away an account in protest of being lumped in with name callers who whined and actually called moderators because they lost an argument.

You lost an argument.

And you're all so pissed the owner didn't ban me for winning you were beside yourselves so I ditched the account, makes no difference to me.

You still don't have the first evidence for your claims weather - of any kind is in any way unusual.

Anywhere on the planet.

You still don't have any evidence less ice does anything but create greater and more abundant diversity of life, which is why

warm periods
are the only ones

ever named Optimums.

You haven't shown us that there is anything unusual about the Arctic,

You haven't shown us that there's anything unusual about the Antarctic,

you haven't shown anything except a link to a graph showing

''Situation far better than normal, we're in a warm Optimum.''

trichrider,

i don't think you believe that
you do post some actual science references
but run on posts that are obviously intended to cause ill will?
you make full use of this thread, not complaining, that is the intention that opposing views can be aired
but trolling only gratifies the troll
 
H

HBF

When you present a number of points, articulate what you perceive them to be,

then invite others to also comment on those points,

this link-don't-think spam won't be just that.

People post up links that it's the end times and we're all on the way to Mad Max at Thunderdome and we all have to repent,

but that's neither debate nor anything but spam.

Debate and discuss, is when you do that.

Climate Change explained, and the myths debunked;
(YouTube video playlist. 39 videos going back to 2008 by potholer54, a scientific journalist and geologist)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo&list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP
 
H

HBF

No matter how close you think the end times are

because a magical gassiness made a cold bath a heater,

telling us somebody else on YouTube

says a magical gassiness made a cold bath a heater,

and we better go listen and watch, isn't adulthood

and it isn't debate,

and it wouldn't pass a test in any middle school on this planet,

trying to pass for such.

Try to recall a time when you saw someone act like an adult and actually explain what they were thinking, using words.

Here's an opportunity for you to do that, you have 39 videos of exciting material about the magical gassiness,

and yet you refuse to write one single word about it.

That always means, "I don't understand it" or "I don't believe it"

because I'll bet ten bucks I can find many posts where you just type like a kid who discovered Mavis Dixon's free typing classes,

because you believe in what you're saying.

Climate Change explained, and the myths debunked;
(YouTube video playlist. 39 videos going back to 2008 by potholer54, a scientific journalist and geologist)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo&list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP
 
H

HBF

Whenever you have some evidence more warmth and less ice,

is anything


but the defining characteristic of


an Optimum,

those understanding the real science if the Earth are willing to help you sort it out.

Obviously you've got it so reversed you think Optimum means problematic.

Wrong answer. A Warm Optimum is as good as it gets for life on planet Earth.

As long as the Ice remains low

As long as the temperatures remain warm,

there can be a Optimum.

Also when you show some evidence of your ludicrous belief ever less light to the planet

makes ever more come out of it,

show it.

Till then you're just somebody

who doesn't even know what the term in science

"Warm Optimum" means.

It's not surprising you don't even know what that word means it explains why for weeks now you've been shrieking this warm optimum means it's "tha end times yaW!"

"cause we got wunna these heeyur Optimums goin' own, whatever thim are!"


https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Climatic+Optimum


Here's a hint it's the warmest and lowest ice periods there are, the history of planet Earth.


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H

HBF

It's best you shut up if you don't have anything to say anyway.

If you'd have done it before

you wouldn't have melted down and screeched that post about how

"When you join a website
and start squealing it's the end times,
and everybody else has to repent cause you say,
and they don't agree they'll do it, you can't control yourself.''

 

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