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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?
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interesting about the beaufort gyre, it's one of those 'hold your breath' spots
the gyre has been in a counter clockwise rotation for a long time now, 2002 or so
that's longer than normal as best can be determined
and there is a large quantity of fresh water that's building in it
the gyre eventually stops and reverses, and that's going to be very interesting
a big load of fresh water into the north atlantic, this could cool down europe for a while, but also likely to be temporary
and the concern how much arctic ice is going to go with it
the gyre has been in a counter clockwise rotation for a long time now, 2002 or so
that's longer than normal as best can be determined
and there is a large quantity of fresh water that's building in it
the gyre eventually stops and reverses, and that's going to be very interesting
a big load of fresh water into the north atlantic, this could cool down europe for a while, but also likely to be temporary
and the concern how much arctic ice is going to go with it
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Fantastic ! 
A Few Reasons Global Warming Would Be Good
Although it is unlikely to have much to do with human activity, let’s hope the climate really is warming. David Friedman (son of Milton Friedman) lists a few of the reasons that this would be a positive development:
• Global warming would increase the amount of land available for human use.
• Warming would affect cold places more than warm places.
• There would be longer growing seasons and consequently more food.
• The disastrous consequences of global warming are of low probability.
• The inevitable next glaciation will be a very big problem.
The basic rule is simple: warm good, cold bad. Liberals should have stuck with the Ice Age rhetoric they pushed in the 1970s; it was far more frightening than global warming.
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A Few Reasons Global Warming Would Be Good
Although it is unlikely to have much to do with human activity, let’s hope the climate really is warming. David Friedman (son of Milton Friedman) lists a few of the reasons that this would be a positive development:
• Global warming would increase the amount of land available for human use.
• Warming would affect cold places more than warm places.
• There would be longer growing seasons and consequently more food.
• The disastrous consequences of global warming are of low probability.
• The inevitable next glaciation will be a very big problem.
The basic rule is simple: warm good, cold bad. Liberals should have stuck with the Ice Age rhetoric they pushed in the 1970s; it was far more frightening than global warming.
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good warming, bad warming - who knows?
but warming it is, of course with this warming most of us are feeling some freeze ass tonight
good time to peak at what that old north pole is up to
and the answer is the ice extent just entered a new minimum for this time of year
maybe tied, but the trend is for lower at the moment
what we are seeing consistently now is blasts of record cold with a warmer arctic
one of the predictions of the climate scientists that is coming true
essentially, what you're feeling is the arctic's blood, just that its blood is cold not warm
so the cold wave you feel tonight is part of the arctic process where ice is being lost
not making enough new ice to stay its current size
and so it shrinks, year by year
but warming it is, of course with this warming most of us are feeling some freeze ass tonight
good time to peak at what that old north pole is up to
and the answer is the ice extent just entered a new minimum for this time of year
maybe tied, but the trend is for lower at the moment
what we are seeing consistently now is blasts of record cold with a warmer arctic
one of the predictions of the climate scientists that is coming true
essentially, what you're feeling is the arctic's blood, just that its blood is cold not warm
so the cold wave you feel tonight is part of the arctic process where ice is being lost
not making enough new ice to stay its current size
and so it shrinks, year by year
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St. Phatty
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Fukushima released boatloads of radiation.
But most of the heat released was localized to the Fukushima site itself.
Ionizing radiation (like you get from uranium) and heat are 2 different things.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4259-european-heatwave-caused-35000-deaths/
35,000 deaths from heat is a lot of funerals.
That was the 2003 heat wave in Europe, which caused them to sit up and take notice about Man-made Climate Change. Hottest summer since 1540.
Which does not mean that Global Warming is real. However, I do have a lot of respect for the climate scientists I've met & emailed with, and most of them are scared sh.tless about Warming and repeats of the 2003 European summer.
The one part about Climate Change I am sure of is the increase in CO2 levels.
When I first read Ed Rosenthal's book that covered CO2 supplementation, he recommended a level of 389 parts per million. That was a long time ago, when CO2 levels were about 350 ppm.
CO2 levels are now 402 - 404 ppm. The plants are loving that !
No need to do CO2 supplementation, but I still do it sometimes.
One of the main effects of that climate wise is, urban interface wildfires.
others are willing to strike the match...
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^^^ i've seen this idea knocked around out there in the science community
when the indian subcontinent collided with asia, the Himalayas were formed
the mountains with their increased surface area became a co2 sponge
and that was the trigger for earth's ice ages
there is a fair time correspondence
but is it fact? tough to say, many confounding factors
which is of course much the same today, many confounding factors
when the indian subcontinent collided with asia, the Himalayas were formed
the mountains with their increased surface area became a co2 sponge
and that was the trigger for earth's ice ages
there is a fair time correspondence
but is it fact? tough to say, many confounding factors
which is of course much the same today, many confounding factors
CaptainDankness
Well-known member
Fantastic !
A Few Reasons Global Warming Would Be Good
Although it is unlikely to have much to do with human activity, let’s hope the climate really is warming. David Friedman (son of Milton Friedman) lists a few of the reasons that this would be a positive development:
• Global warming would increase the amount of land available for human use.
• Warming would affect cold places more than warm places.
• There would be longer growing seasons and consequently more food.
• The disastrous consequences of global warming are of low probability.
• The inevitable next glaciation will be a very big problem.
The basic rule is simple: warm good, cold bad. Liberals should have stuck with the Ice Age rhetoric they pushed in the 1970s; it was far more frightening than global warming.
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Yeah, it really could be a good thing. Of course polar bears and emperor penguins might go extinct. But more water should make rain larger habitat for sea life and a hell of a lot of good land to live in the Russian and Canadian Arctic and Antarctica. Deer will love it it would be like Kentucky deer populations in Canadian.
Life will evolve to a warmer climate it was much warmer for dinosaurs and they had plenty of diversity. Of course lions could spread to Europe, maybe if they can find a way around the deserts. Really the Sahara desert had plenty of water at one point just in human history. Higher water levels in the ocean could bring more rain to Africa and the Middle East making it easier for lions to migrate.
...global warming, yeah, that's the ticket, lol.
bozo
I am curious if anyone noticed an influx of pathetic haters on ic lately.
It seems like there's more than the usual amount.
I suppose if I was a conservative pot grower I could be confused enough to spend time shitting on any thread.
Remember when we were bonded together against the tyranny that is the war on drugs?
Maybe we don't have to look very far to find a newer obstacle.
It seems like there's more than the usual amount.
I suppose if I was a conservative pot grower I could be confused enough to spend time shitting on any thread.
Remember when we were bonded together against the tyranny that is the war on drugs?
Maybe we don't have to look very far to find a newer obstacle.
I'm so glad I will be dead long before any of this becomes an issue for me.
selfish? you betcher ass, I am.
Look. The planet has gone through these very cycles for eons. LONG before humans came around. They will happen until the sun supernovas.
In a billion years.
But hey........keep buying those lead acid battery cars that need to be charged with more and more coal fired plants.
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selfish? you betcher ass, I am.
Look. The planet has gone through these very cycles for eons. LONG before humans came around. They will happen until the sun supernovas.
In a billion years.
But hey........keep buying those lead acid battery cars that need to be charged with more and more coal fired plants.
-cap
thing about a thread like this, you're dealing with very strong emotional opinions
emotion and reason doesn't always get along so well
but it is important to reach across the aisle
i did see a very interesting news item on Scaramuchi, and what he says are Trump's views on warming
and that was Trump is not a denier, just where he really sits i don't know
but the deal breaker for him was the burden put on the USA in the Paris accords
which does line up with the record - kind of
emotion and reason doesn't always get along so well
but it is important to reach across the aisle
i did see a very interesting news item on Scaramuchi, and what he says are Trump's views on warming
and that was Trump is not a denier, just where he really sits i don't know
but the deal breaker for him was the burden put on the USA in the Paris accords
which does line up with the record - kind of
...this story is from 2015 but it still illustrates that the 'facts' are still very much in dispute, and forget solutions, too often the data has been found to be faked.
...let me know if you need evidence of that although i expect even climate change alarmists know how to use a search engine.
Polar bear population bounces back despite climate change warning
POLAR bear populations are recovering despite the climate change warnings of environmentalists, a Canadian zoologist claimed yesterday.
Dr Susan Crockford said: “On almost every measure, things are looking good for polar bears.”
In a report for the climate sceptic Global Warming Policy Foundation, she said: “Scientists are finding that polar bears are well distributed throughout their range and adapting well to changes in sea ice.
“Health indicators are good and they are benefiting from abundant prey. It really is time for the doom and gloom about polar bears to stop.”
Dr Crockford, of the University of Victoria in British Columbia added: “Polar bears are still a conservation success story. With a global population almost certainly greater than 25,000, we can say for sure that there are more polar bears now than 40 years ago.
“The global estimate is too high to qualify the polar bear as ‘threatened’ with extinction...”
bozo
...let me know if you need evidence of that although i expect even climate change alarmists know how to use a search engine.
Polar bear population bounces back despite climate change warning
POLAR bear populations are recovering despite the climate change warnings of environmentalists, a Canadian zoologist claimed yesterday.
Dr Susan Crockford said: “On almost every measure, things are looking good for polar bears.”
In a report for the climate sceptic Global Warming Policy Foundation, she said: “Scientists are finding that polar bears are well distributed throughout their range and adapting well to changes in sea ice.
“Health indicators are good and they are benefiting from abundant prey. It really is time for the doom and gloom about polar bears to stop.”
Dr Crockford, of the University of Victoria in British Columbia added: “Polar bears are still a conservation success story. With a global population almost certainly greater than 25,000, we can say for sure that there are more polar bears now than 40 years ago.
“The global estimate is too high to qualify the polar bear as ‘threatened’ with extinction...”
bozo
