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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?
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moose eater
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Still playing insult ping pong and no one is moving their position very much.
One of the finest examples of confirmation bias on the boards these days, and that's saying something.
Yes, climate change has always been with us and is a natural phenomenon, tracked through history via a number of means, including core sampling of both ice and soil, but it has rarely if ever been occurring at the current pace.
By the way, I've been living in the State of Alaska here, albeit in numerous different sub-climates, for going on 47 years.
What I see is confirmation of my 'pressure cooker' and related condensation model in explaining the changes we're seeing.
The equator and places nearer to it heat up at abnormal rates for recent activity, the moisture in those regions evaporates at increased volume/rates due to increased heat and, like inside a pressure cooker or steam pot, hits the atmosphere and moves toward cooler air, all things in nature seeking homeostasis, heat seeking cold, cold seeking heat, etc. A somewhat natural phenomenon.
The increased moisture in the atmosphere reaches cooler climates, such as the sub-arctic, for example, and the summers there become cooler and more damp, and the winters become more moderate/overall warmer with more snow.
With more occluding systems, there are increases to frequency of storms and winds. And as the general melt from overall moderating of the weather continues, the water levels rise as well, and coastal villages are sometimes/eventually rendered uninhabitable and forced to relocate.
As an anecdote, this summer in the Interior of the State has been one of the weirdest, most fluctuating summers I've seen in nearly a half-century here. 2 weeks of scorching heat into the mid-90s f., followed by nearly that length of time of miserable premature fall weather, with highs in the 50s and lows in the 40s, mold on garden plants from the rain and cooler temps, etc. We've been in that odd rollercoaster of weather since early summer or late spring, up and down, wet and dry, and yet we were in the 50s f. in March.
No, Toto, this isn't normal weather patterns.
One of the finest examples of confirmation bias on the boards these days, and that's saying something.
Yes, climate change has always been with us and is a natural phenomenon, tracked through history via a number of means, including core sampling of both ice and soil, but it has rarely if ever been occurring at the current pace.
By the way, I've been living in the State of Alaska here, albeit in numerous different sub-climates, for going on 47 years.
What I see is confirmation of my 'pressure cooker' and related condensation model in explaining the changes we're seeing.
The equator and places nearer to it heat up at abnormal rates for recent activity, the moisture in those regions evaporates at increased volume/rates due to increased heat and, like inside a pressure cooker or steam pot, hits the atmosphere and moves toward cooler air, all things in nature seeking homeostasis, heat seeking cold, cold seeking heat, etc. A somewhat natural phenomenon.
The increased moisture in the atmosphere reaches cooler climates, such as the sub-arctic, for example, and the summers there become cooler and more damp, and the winters become more moderate/overall warmer with more snow.
With more occluding systems, there are increases to frequency of storms and winds. And as the general melt from overall moderating of the weather continues, the water levels rise as well, and coastal villages are sometimes/eventually rendered uninhabitable and forced to relocate.
As an anecdote, this summer in the Interior of the State has been one of the weirdest, most fluctuating summers I've seen in nearly a half-century here. 2 weeks of scorching heat into the mid-90s f., followed by nearly that length of time of miserable premature fall weather, with highs in the 50s and lows in the 40s, mold on garden plants from the rain and cooler temps, etc. We've been in that odd rollercoaster of weather since early summer or late spring, up and down, wet and dry, and yet we were in the 50s f. in March.
No, Toto, this isn't normal weather patterns.
"Corals are effectively thermometers that record the temperature of the water in which they live. The ratio of various elements in the calcium carbonate skeleton can be used to work out that temperature. Drill a hole in a particularly large coral and you can work out the temperature. This new paper published in Nature shows that the GBR was just as hot a couple of centuries ago"
thanks for this update, been watching the Alaskan temps casually
and it's looked like as you described, that's not helping people there from the sounds of it
moose eater
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Shittiest Interior Alaska growing season outdoors I've ever seen, and I've seen some questionable seasons here.
Porky82
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I was thinking Shiva and Arsekick!
The barman said hello Chi, we don't serve dwarves so your imbicile mate Porky will have to leave
shiva82
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why do you use explanation markers after everything you type? is your keyboard broken ?
July 2024
July 2024 was the warmest July on record for the globe in NOAA's 175-year record. The July global surface temperature was 1.21°C (2.18°F) above the 20th-century average of 15.8°C (60.4°F). This is 0.03°C (0.05°F) warmer than the previous July record set last year, and the 14th consecutive month of record-high global temperatures. This breaks the longest record warm global temperature streak in the modern record (since 1980) previously set from May 2015—May 2016. July 2024 marked the 48th consecutive July with global temperatures, at least nominally, above the 20th-century average.Climatologically, July is the warmest month of the year. As the warmest July on record, July 2024 was more likely than not the warmest month on record for the globe since 1850. The past ten Julys have been the warmest Julys on record.
The global land-only July temperature also was warmest on record at 1.70°C (3.06°F) above average. The ocean-only temperature was second-warmest at 0.98°C (1.76°F) above average, ending a streak of 15 consecutive monthly record highs that stretched from April 2023—June 2024. These temperatures occurred under ENSO-neutral conditions. According to NOAA's Climate Prediction Center, ENSO-neutral is expected to continue for the next several months, with La Niña favored to emerge during September-November (66% chance) and persist through the Northern Hemisphere winter 2024-25 (74% chance during November-January).
Record-warm July temperatures covered large parts of northern and southern Africa, southeastern Europe and large parts of Asia, as well as areas of the western U.S. and western Canada. In North America areas of anomalous warmth stretched from northwest Mexico through much of the western U.S., the northern Plains and states on the Eastern Seaboard, as well as much of Canada, where anomalies greater than 3.0°C (5.4°F) were widespread. Much-warmer-than-average to record July temperatures covered most all of Greenland, where temperatures were more than 4°C (7.2°F) above average in many places. During July 2024, 13.8% of the world's surface had a record-high July temperature, exceeding the previous July record set in 2023 by 5.4%. Close to one-fifth (19.2%) of the global land surface had a record-high July temperature. Meanwhile, 0.3% of the global land and ocean surface experienced a record-cold July temperature.
In South America temperatures were warmer than average from southern Brazil through northern parts of the continent and Central America. However, Argentina and neighboring countries had cooler than average July mean temperatures. Cold air outbreaks from Antarctica brought periods of extremely cold daily temperatures, resulting in wildlife deaths associated with the anomalous weather. Other areas with cooler-than-normal temperatures in July included large parts of central and eastern Australia, the Russian Far East, parts of southern Africa, much of Alaska and parts of the central U.S.
The cold outbreaks in southern South America were associated with a weak polar vortex over Antarctica that allowed cold air to move northward during the month. Over Antarctica, particularly central and eastern areas, the weak polar vortex led to extremely warm daily temperatures during the latter part of the month, as the northward surging cold air was replaced by widespread occurrences of daily temperatures more than 10°C (18°F) above average. For the month-as-a-whole, temperatures more than 4°C (7.2°F) above average covered large parts of the Antarctic continent, and for the Antarctic region as a whole, the month tied July 1991 as the fifth warmest July on record.
Other areas with anomalous warmth included a region that stretched from Southwest Asia through most of China and Mongolia into central Russia. In parts of the Persian Gulf region, heat indices reached extreme levels in July as mid-summer temperatures exceeding 40.5°C (105°F) and Gulf water temperatures above 32°C (90°F) brought a combination of high humidity and heat that produced feels-like temperatures of 60°C (140°F) and higher. The heat index in Dubai climbed as high as 62°C (143°F to 144°F), as water temperatures in the Gulf reached the mid-30s°C (mid-90s°F). Global hourly observations showed a heat index near 69°C (149°F) at the Persian Gulf International airport in Asaluyeh on July 17.
In eastern Europe monthly mean temperatures more than +2°C (+3.6°F) warmer-than-average were widespread and the July mean temperature was more than 1°C (1.8°F) above average in much of southern Europe. In Spain and other countries along the Mediterranean, July heat waves brought multi-day temperatures exceeding 38°C (100°F). This led to severe wildfire conditions in some areas and reports of hundreds of heat-related deaths. Temperatures were even hotter in Morocco, where daily high temperatures exceeded 41°C (106°F) in many locations. Researchers from World Weather Attribution found that the severity of the heatwave in this region would not have been possible in the absence of climate change.
Over the global oceans record-warm July temperatures covered large parts of the equatorial and northern Atlantic, although the expanse of record-breaking temperatures was less than in recent months. The Caribbean continued to be record warm in July. Across the global ocean, 11.3% of its surface had a record-high temperature for the month. Only 0.05% of the global ocean was record cold in July. Widespread areas of below-average July sea surface temperatures were largely confined to the southeastern Pacific and adjacent areas of the Southern Ocean. Areas of the far northern Pacific also were cooler than average for July.
In the Northern Hemisphere, July 2024 also was warmest on record at 1.51°C (2.72°F) above average. This is 0.01°C (0.02°F) warmer than July 2023. The Northern Hemisphere land temperature also ranked warmest on record for the month, while the Northern Hemisphere Ocean temperature was second warmest for July. The Southern Hemisphere also experienced its warmest July on record at 0.91°C (1.64°F) above average, 0.05°C (0.09°F) warmer than 2023. The Southern Hemisphere land temperature and ocean temperature for July were both individually second warmest on record.
July 2024 Blended Land and Sea Surface Temperature Anomalies in degrees Celsius
July 2024 Blended Land and Sea Surface Temperature Percentiles
shiva82
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when is your next booster ?
shiva82
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will you be boosted each year , several times ? works superbly
Is that a recommendation or are you talking to the mirror again?
shiva82
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it was a simple question , obviously not simple enough for you
You have already posted this a few pages backJuly 2024
July 2024 was the warmest July on record for the globe in NOAA's 175-year record. The July global surface temperature was 1.21°C (2.18°F) above the 20th-century average of 15.8°C (60.4°F). This is 0.03°C (0.05°F) warmer than the previous July record set last year, and the 14th consecutive month of record-high global temperatures. This breaks the longest record warm global temperature streak in the modern record (since 1980) previously set from May 2015—May 2016. July 2024 marked the 48th consecutive July with global temperatures, at least nominally, above the 20th-century average.
Climatologically, July is the warmest month of the year. As the warmest July on record, July 2024 was more likely than not the warmest month on record for the globe since 1850. The past ten Julys have been the warmest Julys on record.
The global land-only July temperature also was warmest on record at 1.70°C (3.06°F) above average. The ocean-only temperature was second-warmest at 0.98°C (1.76°F) above average, ending a streak of 15 consecutive monthly record highs that stretched from April 2023—June 2024. These temperatures occurred under ENSO-neutral conditions. According to NOAA's Climate Prediction Center, ENSO-neutral is expected to continue for the next several months, with La Niña favored to emerge during September-November (66% chance) and persist through the Northern Hemisphere winter 2024-25 (74% chance during November-January).
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Record-warm July temperatures covered large parts of northern and southern Africa, southeastern Europe and large parts of Asia, as well as areas of the western U.S. and western Canada. In North America areas of anomalous warmth stretched from northwest Mexico through much of the western U.S., the northern Plains and states on the Eastern Seaboard, as well as much of Canada, where anomalies greater than 3.0°C (5.4°F) were widespread. Much-warmer-than-average to record July temperatures covered most all of Greenland, where temperatures were more than 4°C (7.2°F) above average in many places. During July 2024, 13.8% of the world's surface had a record-high July temperature, exceeding the previous July record set in 2023 by 5.4%. Close to one-fifth (19.2%) of the global land surface had a record-high July temperature. Meanwhile, 0.3% of the global land and ocean surface experienced a record-cold July temperature.
In South America temperatures were warmer than average from southern Brazil through northern parts of the continent and Central America. However, Argentina and neighboring countries had cooler than average July mean temperatures. Cold air outbreaks from Antarctica brought periods of extremely cold daily temperatures, resulting in wildlife deaths associated with the anomalous weather. Other areas with cooler-than-normal temperatures in July included large parts of central and eastern Australia, the Russian Far East, parts of southern Africa, much of Alaska and parts of the central U.S.
The cold outbreaks in southern South America were associated with a weak polar vortex over Antarctica that allowed cold air to move northward during the month. Over Antarctica, particularly central and eastern areas, the weak polar vortex led to extremely warm daily temperatures during the latter part of the month, as the northward surging cold air was replaced by widespread occurrences of daily temperatures more than 10°C (18°F) above average. For the month-as-a-whole, temperatures more than 4°C (7.2°F) above average covered large parts of the Antarctic continent, and for the Antarctic region as a whole, the month tied July 1991 as the fifth warmest July on record.
Other areas with anomalous warmth included a region that stretched from Southwest Asia through most of China and Mongolia into central Russia. In parts of the Persian Gulf region, heat indices reached extreme levels in July as mid-summer temperatures exceeding 40.5°C (105°F) and Gulf water temperatures above 32°C (90°F) brought a combination of high humidity and heat that produced feels-like temperatures of 60°C (140°F) and higher. The heat index in Dubai climbed as high as 62°C (143°F to 144°F), as water temperatures in the Gulf reached the mid-30s°C (mid-90s°F). Global hourly observations showed a heat index near 69°C (149°F) at the Persian Gulf International airport in Asaluyeh on July 17.
In eastern Europe monthly mean temperatures more than +2°C (+3.6°F) warmer-than-average were widespread and the July mean temperature was more than 1°C (1.8°F) above average in much of southern Europe. In Spain and other countries along the Mediterranean, July heat waves brought multi-day temperatures exceeding 38°C (100°F). This led to severe wildfire conditions in some areas and reports of hundreds of heat-related deaths. Temperatures were even hotter in Morocco, where daily high temperatures exceeded 41°C (106°F) in many locations. Researchers from World Weather Attribution found that the severity of the heatwave in this region would not have been possible in the absence of climate change.
Over the global oceans record-warm July temperatures covered large parts of the equatorial and northern Atlantic, although the expanse of record-breaking temperatures was less than in recent months. The Caribbean continued to be record warm in July. Across the global ocean, 11.3% of its surface had a record-high temperature for the month. Only 0.05% of the global ocean was record cold in July. Widespread areas of below-average July sea surface temperatures were largely confined to the southeastern Pacific and adjacent areas of the Southern Ocean. Areas of the far northern Pacific also were cooler than average for July.
In the Northern Hemisphere, July 2024 also was warmest on record at 1.51°C (2.72°F) above average. This is 0.01°C (0.02°F) warmer than July 2023. The Northern Hemisphere land temperature also ranked warmest on record for the month, while the Northern Hemisphere Ocean temperature was second warmest for July. The Southern Hemisphere also experienced its warmest July on record at 0.91°C (1.64°F) above average, 0.05°C (0.09°F) warmer than 2023. The Southern Hemisphere land temperature and ocean temperature for July were both individually second warmest on record.
July 2024 Blended Land and Sea Surface Temperature Anomalies in degrees Celsius
July 2024 Blended Land and Sea Surface Temperature Percentiles
There is no "175 year global temp record" so how the
The one starting from 1850 seems to have been disappered, how would they know what the global temp was, there is bugger all coverage in 1920 let alone 1850.
Its a SCAM
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moose eater
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Among other forms of investigation, tree growth rings, core sampling ice, core sampling soil, etc., etc.
Thats not a global record is it
