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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

Porky82

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Folks in the Yukon Territory of Canada are also fairly well organized re. recycling. It's a virtual religion for one friend there.

However, and I think this specifically applied to the US as a whole, I recall it being reported that the end result for a lot of recyclables was not necessarily as positive as participants and supporters had been led to believe, Somewhat like the countries that were purported to be paying China to take their barge-loads of trash, and the less than positive outcomes, which has always caused me to further raise an eyebrow over places, states, countries, whatever, offering to take nuclear waste for a buck..

If the process functions in the way it's intended, then it's a great step, but that all relies on human integrity and efficiency or effectiveness.
Yeah Australia had a soft plastic recycling scheme and it turned out the company was stockpiling it in warehouses all over different cities and they had no intention of recycling it.
Real shame that was. Really we should be restricting it's use instead of trying to recycle it!
 

Dime

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Yeah Australia had a soft plastic recycling scheme and it turned out the company was stockpiling it in warehouses all over different cities and they had no intention of recycling it.
Real shame that was. Really we should be restricting it's use instead of trying to recycle it

That's because it'd pops that's making the claim and it's in my posts!
Fuck me mate your a bit slow arnt ya! 🤣
Could be. I am replying to a dullard,
 

igrowone

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Veteran
EVs are just starting, it's amazing it's ramped up so fast
gonna have up periods and downs too
I do see reconditioned batteries are becoming available, and the second hand market has popped higher
recycling ain't so pretty for IC cars either, markets more mature, give EVs some slack and see how it goes
 

arsekick

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i've never read/seen anyone claim that man-made Co-2 is the only cause. what i HAVE read is that we are making a bad situation worse . your claim is disingenuous at best, and leaning (hard!) into strawman territory. but, given the source, i'm not surprised at all. "when you are not trying to help solve a problem, you are part of the problem."
Was replying to Porky, he/she has been banging on about how we are all doomed because of "man made" Co2 destroying the planet for years.

:when you are not trying to help solve a problem, you are part of the problem"

There is no problem to help solve so I'm not part of any problem
 

arsekick

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In Australia all rubbish is sorted by the household and if you put the wrong stuff in the wrong bin you get finned.
So yeah my rubbish is sorted I also have a solar system on my roof and a 13kw battery that I fill during the day and use at night. I have purchased the most energy efficient appliances available, I walk as much possible like to work when it's close, I try to use as little plastic as possible as I think plastic pollution is a bigger problem than climate change, I try to buy as local as possible we have a farmers market weekly so all my fresh produce is from there they also have a no plastic rule that I like, my car is petrol but I only drive it to and from work my wife's work car is a hybrid and we drive that daily, I'm currently looking at EVs to buy and a few others but you get the idea. All of this means nothing in the grand scheme as the system of endless growth is the problem.
The facts are human activity is destroying the planet and about 97% of climate scientists agree.
You seem to think you know more because you have a "background in science" so what is this scientific background you have??
Bullshit, all my rubbish goes into the one bin same as most people living in the country.
The only chance you have of getting finned is when you're in the ocean.

Thought it was 97% of all scientists now its 97% of climate scientists,
 

Porky82

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Bullshit, all my rubbish goes into the one bin same as most people living in the country.
The only chance you have of getting finned is when you're in the ocean.

Thought it was 97% of all scientists now its 97% of climate scientists,
Scientists accept the science of their peers unlike you and the other barely educated fools in this thread!
I typed this on my oil made pc!! 🤣🤣🤣
 

Chi13

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ICMag Donor
Bullshit, all my rubbish goes into the one bin same as most people living in the country.
The only chance you have of getting finned is when you're in the ocean.

Thought it was 97% of all scientists now its 97% of climate scientists,
Bullshit, most Australian councils have at least 2 or 3 bins; landfill, recycle and green waste. No idea where you are in Oz but I call bullshit.
 

Porky82

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Bullshit, most Australian councils have at least 2 or 3 bins; landfill, recycle and green waste. No idea where you are in Oz but I call bullshit.
He's a compulsive liar mate! He lives in country Victoria and yeah they have multiple bins!!
 

moose eater

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Premium user
Yeah Australia had a soft plastic recycling scheme and it turned out the company was stockpiling it in warehouses all over different cities and they had no intention of recycling it.
Real shame that was. Really we should be restricting it's use instead of trying to recycle it!
My guess is that they got grants for the recycling they weren't doing, and claimed tax write-offs for the storage space for not making a profit on the places when they were filled with the not-recycled items. Am I close?

Once even previously decent folks catch the corporatism free-ride-for-organizations bug and the related corporate welfare, it spreads like cancer and eats away at their souls as often as not.

I think all of these things are growing and a work in progress, from alternative energy, alternative transportation, to recycling, etc., etc., and none of it is going to be energy-neutral in the production end of things. But it CAN improve over time, and if the energy use and pollution coming out of the changes is less than what existed previously, then it's a win.

Me, I intend to bury myself with no embalming, in a natural biodegradable wooden box from local milled spruce trees, with a biodegradable satin-like fabric lining it, in denim blue jeans and cotton purple and gold (sorta' Alaska colors, but hippified) tie-dyed t-shirt, comfortable boots, purple Rx wire-rim shades, some pics of my dogs and maybe my family, a small bottle of really good tequila, a doobie or three, a natural wooden marker, and feed a lilac tree or similar that's planted over the top of me with the nutrients I and my attire will produce..

Cremation only (primarily) returns calcium and a limited (other minerals), whereas natural burial returns nitrogen for the first long while, then phosphorous, and other minerals including calcium. I figure we spend our lives taking and taking some more. Natural burial treats the plants nearby to good food and gives back at least a bit more of what we took while we were here, even if it's a minor amount.

In the interim, I drive to town as infrequently as possible, though I do take some long trips for remote recreational ventures, which admittedly burns more hydrocarbons than many people I know.
 

arsekick

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Bullshit, most Australian councils have at least 2 or 3 bins; landfill, recycle and green waste. No idea where you are in Oz but I call bullshit.
I probably would have 2 or 3 bins if it was a council subsided bin collection but its not.
 

arsekick

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He's a compulsive liar mate! He lives in country Victoria and yeah they have multiple bins!!
More rubbish from the bloke/chic that failed kindergarten science

Unless you live in the town boundary you don't get multiple bins


One bin is all I got Skippy
 

pop_rocks

In my empire of dirt
Premium user
420club
EVs are just starting, it's amazing it's ramped up so fast
gonna have up periods and downs too
I do see reconditioned batteries are becoming available, and the second hand market has popped higher
recycling ain't so pretty for IC cars either, markets more mature, give EVs some slack and see how it goes
this was an ev from at least 10y+ ago, so i don think they make this one much
thats why i asked what are you going to do with it?
if it was a sweet truck or car maybe i would be interested in someparts
 
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pop_rocks

In my empire of dirt
Premium user
420club
Yeah Australia had a soft plastic recycling scheme and it turned out the company was stockpiling it in warehouses all over different cities and they had no intention of recycling it.
Real shame that was. Really we should be restricting it's use instead of trying to recycle it!
im all for restricting the use of plastic or anything else that makes our lives better
i just want my meat handed to me and all my drinks in a plastic bag with a straw in it
/have you ever bought a bag of drink in a plastic bag with a straw in it
Nah he lives in a shed in Victoria so probably even more backwards!! 🤣
is that in canadia?
must be nice living on a riverbank in Egypt. how's the weather ?


in my fishing village we call san diego we have three bins, one is for just trash, the next is yard waste and the third is the blue bin
thisis our recycling bin and this is the one thats the most full
 
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