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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

soil margin

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please stay on topic, you do know the earths core and that magnetic field are responsible for the fucking rotation of the earth, right tiger

you seem to have a problem with distinguishing systems:tiphat:

Uhhhh no. Take 5 seconds on google and you can see there is no debate over why the Earth spins, and "the earths core and that magnetic field" are not the reasons for it.

https://www.livescience.com/63408-why-does-earth-rotate.html

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/ou...s/22-what-makes-the-earth-rotate-intermediate
 

Mr. J

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Defense (and related spending) and climate change precautions/prep/awareness have been merged at the federal level.
So then his point still makes no sense. If they're spending so much on Defense, and it's been merged at the federal level, then surely they're also spending Defense money on climate change precautions/prep/awareness???

But he was just deflecting and anybody who's arguing honestly can see that.
 

White Beard

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the earth has been dealing with remaining ice from millions of years ago, the sun has been getting older and having its flare ups warming the earth.

Static, thats a pipedream of liberals that utilize fear tactics of our ever changing climate.

Funny, it doesn’t sound like you’re so up on science...specifically factors involved in sea-level rise and *fall*, glaciation, interglacial periods...we’re still easily a billion years away from the sun starting to act up...fits in well with the shit you make up about “liberals”, though.
 

St. Phatty

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What if Yellowstone blows before the ocean can submerge Miami ?

All that worrying for nothing !!!


Actually, if Yellowstone blows, 1/2 a world away is where you'll want to be.
 

Mr. J

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Uhhhh no. Take 5 seconds on google and you can see there is no debate over why the Earth spins, and "the earths core and that magnetic field" are not the reasons for it
Ummm... Everybody knows that the Earth is a flat disc. And it's stationary. Everything else rotates around it.
 

White Beard

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please stay on topic, you do know the earths core and that magnetic field are responsible for the fucking rotation of the earth, right tiger

you seem to have a problem with distinguishing systems:tiphat:

Please try to be less insulting.

So, to stay on topic: the earth’s core is what and how it is because gravity and density. The earths’s magnetic field is the RESULT of the rotation, not the cause of it.

Working theory about why the earth rotates: because the dust it condensed from was rotating, because things in the universe, it turns out, rotate. It seems to be the nature of matter, from the atom to the galaxy. It’s always been spinning, lots of inertia, lots of vacuum. A million years from now, a day will not be even an hour longer.

Seems like distinguishing systems is a problem for at least one.
 

Mr. J

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Maybe everyone in YOUR family?
Tell me you’re in on the joke, bloke
The Reptilians have already gotten to my family, it's too late for them. They've fallen victim to the propaganda, just as you have, it appears.
Just like the Reptilians wanted you to do.
 

armedoldhippy

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So then his point still makes no sense. If they're spending so much on Defense, and it's been merged at the federal level, then surely they're also spending Defense money on climate change precautions/prep/awareness???

coast guard, navy, NASA, and other govt agencies ARE spending money in preparation for what they see as inevitable rise in sea levels. does this make you more likely or less to think it is just "fake news" to justify "destroying the American economy" ? open question to all on here...:tiphat:
 

Mr. J

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coast guard, navy, NASA, and other govt agencies ARE spending money in preparation for what they see as inevitable rise in sea levels. does this make you more likely or less to think it is just "fake news" to justify "destroying the American economy" ? open question to all on here...:tiphat:
See, that's not even what we were talking about, like at all. This is how these things always go and it makes my brain hurt, so I'm just gonna leave here and never come back.
Have fun guys :dance013:
 

Phaeton

Speed of Dark
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So Mr. J is an ACTUAL flat earther??

What? You never been on the wrong side as a kid?

No, he is not a 'real' flat earther.
He is determined not to admit that, kinda like a climate denier.
The truth is out there, it is known, but no attention is given for that.

I had a nephew that would always take a nickel instead of a dime if offered because it was bigger, He did this for many years, way after he should have known better.

Turns out he always knew better but "nobody gave me money if I took the dime" was his excuse.

"Look at me, the world is flat"

Of course it is now let me watch TV, I do not care.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Mentioning the reptilians - reminds me of David Icke -who does come up with some interesting theories - and makes a lot of sense - sometimes - but I'm not so sure about his theory about these reptilians controlling the human race - lol


Its always good to have diversity of opinions - leads to a better debate.
 

White Beard

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Yeah...just read an “account” of someone diving off Miami, finding a humming pillar, and getting raped over and over by mermen...didn’t say if they were reptilians or not, but I’ll just forego the tripping on SCUBA experience....

Mr. J seems like he has too much on his plate...I hope he gets some relief from his burdens.
 

White Beard

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Mentioning the reptilians - reminds me of David Icke -who does come up with some interesting theories - and makes a lot of sense - sometimes - but I'm not so sure about his theory about these reptilians controlling the human race - lol


Its always good to have diversity of opinions - leads to a better debate.

Some of Ickes’ stuff is at least semi-sound, but he’s committed to multiplying entities needlessly. Personally, I think time is better spent solidifying the image through better information than fantasizing about reptile invaders who look like us and run everything.

I think we have much more to fear from assholes than from aliens.
 

trichrider

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you can gain some insight into the earths rotation by watching a few short youtubes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSIzyk5Mjko
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt-n8N_kqto
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1hLoWjl7xk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik9E2Av6PJY
[youtubeif]ik9E2Av6PJY[/youtubeif]


earth is a magnet with an applied electric field
van allen belts are toroidal and encompass earths magnetic fields
energized by the solar wind, the vortex created within the toroid spins the magnetic core. all else follows.
:tiphat:
 

White Beard

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earth is a magnet with an applied electric field

And a computer is a brain that doesn’t need oxygen...they’re abuot equally true, which is to say they’re both mostly false in terms of understanding relationships and processes.

Plus, a computer is *not* a brain and the earth is *not* a magnet.
 

trichrider

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And a computer is a brain that doesn’t need oxygen...they’re abuot equally true, which is to say they’re both mostly false in terms of understanding relationships and processes.
Plus, a computer is *not* a brain and the earth is *not* a magnet.



Is the Earth a magnet? - USGS
About 79,400,000 results (0.51 seconds




you say tomatoe , i say tomato.
and i concede earth is not a giant magnet, but more appropriately an electromagnet.
earths magma when released retains the magnetic inclination when it cools...so molten magma in situ is entrained in the field lines of the electric field surrounding it.
exactly like the first video above, the liquid core spins within the mantle because of the applied electric current.


Why Does Earth Behave Like A Magnet?
Why does the Earth behave like a magnet? originally appeared on Quora: the place to gain and share knowledge, empowering people to learn from others and better understand the world.


Answer by Richard Muller, Professor of Physics at UC Berkeley, author of Now, The Physics of Time, on Quora:

The Earth behaves like a magnet because the Earth is a magnet. It is not a permanent magnet, but an electromagnet.
We now understand why. Deep in the Earth, molten metal (mostly iron) flows due to heat which causes convection. (The heat appears to be generated by iron condensing at the solid core.) This flow tends to organize itself into patterns, just like the patterns you’ll see in oil if you heat it in a frying pan. Such patterns in a flowing conductor tend to create magnetism. The same idea is used in the “dynamo”, a device that creates both electric current and magnetism from moving conductors. Commercial dynamos are the source of essentially all of our wall-outlet electricity.

The principle of a dynamo is this: if there is a little magnetic field, then when a conductor moves past it, it causes current to flow. That current creates a magnetic field which, if the geometry is right, enhances the original field. So it grows until the force is large enough to modify the pattern.
The question of why the magnet sometimes flips is not yet settled. I wrote a scientific paper on this, and I hope (actually, to be more candid, I expect) that my theory will some day be proven correct. It says that the flow pattern is disrupted by an instability in the material that is deposited by the flowing iron at the core-mantle interface. This leads to a disruption of the dipole character of the field, which is then restored as the pattern reestablishes itself; however, it has a 50% chance of coming back in the opposite direction.

Here is a reference to the published paper: Geomagnetic Reversals from Impacts on the Earth, Richard A. Muller and Donald E. Morris, LBL-20131, (September 1985, revised August 1986), published in Geophysical Research Letters 13, 1177-1180 (1986). The article is summarized in Physics Today, February 1987, pp 17-20.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/01/02/why-does-earth-behave-like-a-magnet/#4a11008a2209
 

trichrider

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Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics

Volume 193, 15 October 2019, 105075

Solar activity imprints in tree ring-data from northwestern Russia

Author links open overlay panelElena A.Kasatkinaab



Oleg I.Shumilovab MauriTimonenc



https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jastp.2019.105075Get rights and content
Highlights

•We analyzed tree-ring chronology (1445–2005) from Peninsula, Northwestern Russia.•In polar tree-ring data, significant periodicities associated with solar cycles (5.4, 11.7 and 22 years) were found.•Polar tree growth response on solar impact is more pronounced during and around the Grand Minima of solar activity.•Cycles of 11- and 22 yr were persisted in tree ring-cosmic rayconnections even during the Maunder minimum when sunspots were practically absent.•Connection between tree rings and sunspots was higher during other Grand Minima (the Dalton and Gleissberg) and just after the Maunder minimum.

Abstract

The Sun's role in climate variability is now a subject of debates, especially in the context of understanding contribution of solar forcing to modern global warming. Besides, there are some evidences of the approaching new Grand Solar Minimum with Little Ice Age climatic conditions. This expectation is based on the occurrence of the extended solar minimum of 2006–2009. To investigate the possible Sun-climate connection the regional tree-ring chronology covering the period from 1445 to 2005 was analyzed. A total of 36 timber cores of pine Pinus sylvestris L. were sampled near the northern tree-line at Loparskaya station (68.6 N, 33.3 E), including the oldest living pine with more than 560 years of age. The data were processed using modern methods adopted in dendrochronology (cross-dating and standardization) with the help of COFECHA and ARSTAN programs. The analysis revealed significant cooling events, coinciding with the Spoerer (1400–1540), Maunder (1645–1715), Dalton (1790–1830), and Gleissberg (1880–1910) Grand Solar Minima. The application of MTM-spectrum and wavelet decomposition analysis identified the existence of the main cycles of solar activity (5.4, 11.7 and 22 years) in tree-ring width variations. As possible extraterrestrial forcings of climate change we consider here variations in solar irradiance and cosmic ray intensity modulated by the interplanetary magnetic field. As solar and cosmic ray activity indicators we used the annual sunspot number, geomagnetic aa index and Be^10 cosmogenic isotope records. To examine the relationship in time-frequency scale between tree-ring growth and solar activity, the cross wavelet transform and wavelet coherence analysis were applied to the time series. The wavelet coherence analysis identified that the 11 yr and 22 yr periodicities were clearly manifested in the all solar-tree rings connections during and around the Grand Minima of solar activity including the Maunder minimum, when, as is known, sunspots were practically absent. These results confirm the existence of solar activity effect on climate and tree growth above the Arctic Circle and are important for understanding the modern climatic processes.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364682618306825
 
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