Have You Been Vaccinated?
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not all cancers ... i'll have to get back to you after i read the studies - probably the most important ones that the innate immune system can't handle well enough.
i also wasn't covered for melanoma - 10 year survival this year after surgery - nor 2x squamous cell carcinoma - but i used to enjoy baking in the summer sun when i was an ignorant adolescent. that may have planted the seeds. (it all starts with a seed, eh?)
Does it make you immune to turbo cancers?
By that logic you don't trust any studies that are funded? Those studies are published with all the methodology open to scrutiny by peers, or anyone who has access. If a scientists deliberately misinforms, skews or fakes data, their name is pretty much mud.
If something is funded by a vested interest if should have more scrutiny, and be dealt with scepticism, but it doesn't mean it's necessarily flawed. Science is set up to test a hypothesis; essentially you try to disprove your hypothesis.
By all means trust nothing. Your choice, as it is to have the vaccine or not. I've read enough about this now to have made my choice. Had about 7 covid shots so far and will continue to do so.
I’m not a trusting person. What else is there to say? I’m not attempting to disprove anything. I do not feel the need.
The amount of propaganda spread during the pandemic was enough for me…to call bullshit. Nobody really knew the truth about much of anything…including the original origins of the virus itself. Still don’t. Look here….people still argue over the effectiveness of the vaccine. Years later.
The government in the USA used censorship and forced mandatory vaccinations on some sectors. If they could have…they would have made it mandatory for all. That is a fact. You want me to trust that administration? Never. I don’t trust government at all. Call me skeptical. But it’s safe to say that government is not my friend. And I work for them.
I’ve been through so many government dog and pony shows I’ve lost count. The current budget cuts is the current one I’m dealing with. Moving money around. Like a shell game. Take it from here…hide it there…see we saved money !!! That’s exactly what is going on right now. It’s all bullshit of course. Political grandstanding for the public.
I’ve told you before : take the injections. Whatever you want to do to yourself I’m good with it. No argument. Free will. Just do not push it on others. I don’t tell anyone not to get vaccinated. By all means.
I’m unvaccinated and healthy. Same with my wife. Same with many people I know. That’s all there is to it.
Science of course is great when not corrupted. Hard to tell the difference sometimes. I tend to look at who is behind the curtain though. It is a business. Scientists are paid players. Not all are noble.
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Captain Red Eye
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I guess it comes down to life experience. I am a trusting person, until someone betrays that trust. I was brought up in a scientific family. Some family friends were scientists. Science was discussed around the dinner table, politics too. I found these scientists to simply be people fascinated by the world around them. Many of my friends became scientists. I studied social science because I was more curious about humans, than elements.I’m not a trusting person. What else is there to say? I’m not attempting to disprove anything. I do not feel the need.
The amount of propaganda spread during the pandemic was enough for me…to call bullshit. Nobody really knew the truth about much of anything…including the original origins of the virus itself. Still don’t. Look here….people still argue over the effectiveness of the vaccine. Years later.
The government in the USA used censorship and forced mandatory vaccinations on some sectors. If they could have…they would have made it mandatory for all. That is a fact. You want me to trust that administration? Never. I don’t trust government at all. Call me skeptical. But it’s safe to say that government is not my friend. And I work for them.
I’ve been through so many government dog and pony shows I’ve lost count. The current budget cuts is the current one I’m dealing with. Moving money around. Like a shell game. Take it from here…hide it there…see we saved money !!! That’s exactly what is going on right now. It’s all bullshit of course. Political grandstanding for the public.
I’ve told you before : take the injections. Whatever you want to do to yourself I’m good with it. No argument. Free will. Just do not push it on others. I don’t tell anyone not to get vaccinated. By all means.
I’m unvaccinated and healthy. Same with my wife. Same with many people I know. That’s all there is to it.
Science of course is great when not corrupted. Hard to tell the difference sometimes. I tend to look at who is behind the curtain though. It is a business. Scientists are paid players. Not all are noble.
There was censorship in the pandemic and I think that was a huge mistake. It undermines trust. However, authorities were dealing with something that hadn't happened since the end of WW1. We were seeing health systems in first world countries overwhelmed. The vaccine saved many lives, despite what you read from some here. It's there in public health stats.
Propaganda goes both ways though. Anti vaccination propaganda seemed to me 100 x worse than anything the government did, my government anyway. The shit I've read here and other social media is just crazy. Bat shit crazy. So many things antivaxxers have said have not come to pass. It's been a flood the zone with shit approach.
Anyway we aren't going to change each others mind. I've never seen anyone in the speakers corner change their view due to an argument made by someone they disagree with; just folks cementing their own views. I'm guilty of that, but I still haven't seen one argument that scared me into not having the vaccine.
I didn't play your clip but cowardly lion from OZ?
The cowards are the ones that irrationally fear the vaccine.
Captain Red Eye
Well-known member
I didn't play your clip but cowardly lion from OZ?
The cowards are the ones that irrationally fear the vaccine.
Just goofing on you. I respect your choices.
But...7 ?
You should keep going, you gotta be near the record!
I was on the road for pretty much the entire pandemic. Started out in July 2019 and finished in March 2021. Camping out of my truck and running mountains all over the west. Even had my wife with me for 10 weeks when they shut her small business down in 2020. A lot of small businesses went under. Hers did not. That lock down “alone together” nonsense was wrong. It fucked some people’s heads up. People who could not get off their electronic devices.
We had a great time in the deserts and mountains of Arizona. It was a fantastic experience. While the masses were tripping out we were running amazing terrain and camping in wonderland. And the Trump checks paid for several tanks of gas…..took us many more miles. Paid vacation.
When the wife finally had to go back to San Diego….the very first night where her shop was…BLM protest turned into a riot. The ugly reality of social programming. From desert paradise back to utter social manipulation. Lucky her shop wasn’t looted or burned. Fuck the propaganda driven narratives. I have no love.
So yeah….your experiences were way different I suppose.
VinScentVanGro
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That’s why the doctors/nurses were filming all those dances?
The aussies put people in camps, right?!?!
lol antivaxxerism is the scaredy cat position, literally scared cause some grifters said the shots are bad, scared to be different than their antivaxxer friends, etc...
being vaccinated is normal, it's a thing for normal and informed ppl. nothing to do with being scared, i hope this helps.
VinScentVanGro
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lol. Sorry, “mandatory quarantine facility” not “camps”.Aussies did not put people in camps, WTF?
You don't mind a bit of hyperbole?
It was one week quarantine, living in hotel like accommodation.
VinScentVanGro
Active member
That’s why people were trying to escape?
and it is reported that most can not be replicated. these are worthless studies, not science.
Captain Red Eye
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I wouldn't have gone and would have said "no thanks". They could do that right?
