Have a empty warehouse to build turn into grow spot.. Need help with electrical , a/c

[queequeg152]

Could have a "misfire" with the framing nailer and shoot your build partner (that's one of my fave to see I've seen that maybe 15 or 20 times haha someone with a framing nail sticking out of them, never done it though...)

i just re read this post and caught this absurd statement.

i dont get it, do you work at an ER or something?

how the fuck else have you seen so many people injuring themselves with nail guns?
either you are bullshitting, or your guys are shooting smack and or huffing paint at work.

 

[CoCoSativas]

i just re read this post and caught this absurd statement.

i dont get it, do you work at an ER or something?

how the fuck else have you seen so many people injuring themselves with nail guns?
either you are bullshitting, or your guys are shooting smack and or huffing paint at work.

Well were making jokes about things that could happen guess you missed it starts at the top of the page.

I'm a contractor and I've worked on almost every site in my city, I've seen it all. Fingers chopped off, motherfuckers fall to their deaths twice.

Lol have I ever run tools before... Yeah I do it for a living I'm not a fucking comedian but try to be funny sorry I didn't amuse you with my absurd jokes

 

[CoCoSativas]

what the fuck?

have you ever run any tools ever? how the fuck do you fall asleep running a table saw?

table saws are entirely safe provided you are not brain dead. the blade guards today are fine. mine snaps on and off in a second or two. yes i have to remove it now and then to make very close rips. the riving knife should never be removed, though ive done it once to make 9' rips of hardi siding. the hardi blade i had was marginally thinner than the riving knife causing binding.

it takes like 10 minutes to learn how use a table saw. if you are seriously afraid... you can shell out for a saw stop saw. google hot dog test if you are unaware.

regading nail guns. again what the fuck? have you ever run a nail gun?

ill admit straight away... yes ive been known to fire nails in open air every now and then, but its almost impossible to do by accident. even when you fire nails out in open air, they are not like rifle rounds... they travel exceptionally slowly, and tumble like crazy. when i shoot like 10 nails at a fence 20 ft away, maby 1 will stick in.... like a millimeter.

you literally have to pull back the safety with one hand and pull the trigger with the other. it takes two hands. the triggers on pretty much all nail guns made in the last 20 years will not actuate what so ever without the safety depressed. its not an interference safety. the safety mechanism is what allows the trigger to fill with gas and actuate.

the biggest safety issue with nail guns is shooting yourself... fingers and legs when bump firing.
you treat these things similar to how one treats a firearm though. occasionally you will hear about idiots shooting nails into someone propping on the other side of some sheet product, but its rare.

Bwhahahahahaha dude we were joking speculating what could happen if you were stupid or insane it's all jokes buddy.

BTW someone died in my city last year passing out hung over forward onto a table. It happens don't think it done or I'm a fucking idiot because it happens. Oh and I've personally watched my father in law try clearing a jam by slamming the gun on the stud too force it while bump firing it. There was a guy on the other side of the wall and he shot one of his favorite guys in the arm.

I'm 25, been at it for about 8 years,I've seen it all. Lol have I run tools buddy I've done stuff you wouldn't try... ever worked on a chicken ladder? Had to work ripping and reinstalling skidding at 100 ft in a boon lift? My career hasn't been that long and I've seen it all.

I will point out my province leads the country in on the job accidents and probably has more construction accidents a year than the rest of the country it'd our whole economy here. Fucking dude so many idiots. I just sold my contracting company, which was tough I had good guys but fuck it I'm looking for something else. Guess how I got hurt this year? Fell back 6 feet while chain sawing trees out of my way to work on a fence. I fell back, tossed the saw and dropped and hit my back on a cement protrusion. We can get hurt so many ways if you do it all day you see it all

 

[queequeg152]

Bwhahahahahaha dude we were joking speculating what could happen if you were stupid or insane it's all jokes buddy.

BTW someone died in my city last year passing out hung over forward onto a table. It happens don't think it done or I'm a fucking idiot because it happens. Oh and I've personally watched my father in law try clearing a jam by slamming the gun on the stud too force it while bump firing it. There was a guy on the other side of the wall and he shot one of his favorite guys in the arm.

I'm 25, been at it for about 8 years,I've seen it all. Lol have I run tools buddy I've done stuff you wouldn't try... ever worked on a chicken ladder? Had to work ripping and reinstalling skidding at 100 ft in a boon lift? My career hasn't been that long and I've seen it all.

I will point out my province leads the country in on the job accidents and probably has more construction accidents a year than the rest of the country it'd our whole economy here. Fucking dude so many idiots. I just sold my contracting company, which was tough I had good guys but fuck it I'm looking for something else. Guess how I got hurt this year? Fell back 6 feet while chain sawing trees out of my way to work on a fence. I fell back, tossed the saw and dropped and hit my back on a cement protrusion. We can get hurt so many ways if you do it all day you see it all

regarding the table saw... ill take your word for it man, but i sure as hell cant imagine why it happened. maby a medical condition. falling asleep at a table saw is imo, like falling asleep welding.

clearing the gun by firing another nail through it? thats crazy, i dont get that.

i studied engineering though, i guess i have a tendency to do shit by the book so to speak... regardless of the cost.
when ever my nailers foul up i stop what ever im doing... go inside and work it out with pliers and a Allen keys. guessing that's not acceptable on a jobsite.

ive never been on a roofing ladder. i do not even know wtf skidding is? siding maby? all my experiance is small scale remodeling/rehabing, all personal shit though, i work at an engineering firm.

im butt hurt in that you have started and sold a company at 25. im 28 and im doing boring shit-designing a sewage treatment plant upgrade at the moment.

 

[CoCoSativas]

regarding the table saw... ill take your word for it man, but i sure as hell cant imagine why it happened. maby a medical condition. falling asleep at a table saw is imo, like falling asleep welding.

clearing the gun by firing another nail through it? thats crazy, i dont get that.

i studied engineering though, i guess i have a tendency to do shit by the book so to speak... regardless of the cost.
when ever my nailers foul up i stop what ever im doing... go inside and work it out with pliers and a Allen keys. guessing that's not acceptable on a jobsite.

ive never been on a roofing ladder. i do not even know wtf skidding is? siding maby? all my experiance is small scale remodeling/rehabing, all personal shit though, i work at an engineering firm.

im butt hurt in that you have started and sold a company at 25. im 28 and im doing boring shit-designing a sewage treatment plant upgrade at the moment.

The table saw thing well the guy was still drunk from the night before, bonus from a heavy night of drinking g. He passed out forward and his helper found him dead. It was gross as hell from what I heard.

Yes siding, I have a new phone that likes to auto correct weird shit.

My father in law is a idiot dude. I hate the guy but anyway he has got loads of people badly hurt, including me he got me with his truck once he backed into me when I was helping him on one of his jobs. He's from the old school those guys don't do anything all that smart when they are in a rush. If they can clear a jam right then they will do it. I'm a "follow the safety guidelines so no one gets hurt except tables guards" but I got my start in construct in flooring and to cut vents and shit in hardwood you need to drop a cut and can't have a guard to that. It's hard to explain a drop cut its basically you hold the board one end, place it at a angle on the edge of the table lined up and you slowly angle the board down to the blade and cut out what you need. Dangerous if you don't know how to... but needed, sure you can do it with a jig saw but it looks fucked up.

Don't be "butt hurt" or whatever dude I'm a lucky individual. I got ripped a couple times and said fuck growing, bought some trucks and tools, got some jobs and away I went I live in a construction boom city so I'm in the place to do it. I'm naturally good at it, and driven it's not hard to be successful.

That said my body is FUCKED UP ask any of the old times I'm in great shape compared to them, but when I'm in the doctors office they treat me like a old man because that's how my m.r.i. Xray and all my scans come back looking like I'm 20 or 30 years older than I am I destroyed my body for some cash buddy. Was it worth it? I guess 20 years from now when I'm 45 we will see how I feel, for now it was worth it made alot of money.

Lol totally off topic now this one's turning into another chat thread. Well its fitting it's a total time waster in the first place so there's no point in really considering the original post as serious might as well have fun

 

[barnyard]

table saws are one of the most dangerous power tools...use a wormdrive

 

[Mate Dave]

AC wise I'd have one installed professionally in the building that is capable of doing the grow. Say you want to be able to keep Perishable goods in the Unit and it needs to keep things optimal, You may need a building dryer or similar.. Have them linked to a filtration system...

When you ask for this you will be told to have new Electrics wired in.

Take advantage of this and have a main sub panel put in professionally so lighting sockets and ventilation is on different breakers. Tell them your gonna light the room with 400W CMH for working under and then the place will be Pukka..


I know folks who just use the building as they come standard here and grow under the Warehouse HPS Fittings.. Just raising the plants up and Hey presto your growing.. No kit needed but dirt and benches and a hosepipe..

 

[queequeg152]

It's hard to explain a drop cut its basically you hold the board one end, place it at a angle on the edge of the table lined up and you slowly angle the board down to the blade and cut out what you need. Dangerous if you don't know how to... but needed, sure you can do it with a jig saw but it looks fucked up.

i know what you are talking about... its like the first thing my shop teacher told us to never do lol.

the ocillating saws are pefect for something like that... i have a fein 300 something;i forget, for shit like that. ultra thin kerf, very straight, very easy, but yea, they may not have been around way back in the day.

 

[queequeg152]

table saws are one of the most dangerous power tools...use a wormdrive

bullshit. a circular saw cant do half what a table saw can... well it can actually, but with gaylord jigs and crap that slow you down, but circular saw cuts tend to look like shit, as you get bad chip out unless you are cutting on some sort of sacrificial surface.

if you are doing any finish work what so ever, eventually you need a table saw.

the band saw is whats responsible for more amputations than anything from what i recall.

the only thing that can really replace a table saw is a track saw+ like a router table. even then though a table saw still has its place.

 

[CoCoSativas]

i know what you are talking about... its like the first thing my shop teacher told us to never do lol.

the ocillating saws are pefect for something like that... i have a fein 300 something;i forget, for shit like that. ultra thin kerf, very straight, very easy, but yea, they may not have been around way back in the day.

We use fien saws for other stuff but not vents. You cannot ever replace the quality of a table saw dropcut. No jig or anything g else does it the same.

 

[CoCoSativas]

bullshit. a circular saw cant do half what a table saw can... well it can actually, but with gaylord jigs and crap that slow you down, but circular saw cuts tend to look like shit, as you get bad chip out unless you are cutting on some sort of sacrificial surface.

if you are doing any finish work what so ever, eventually you need a table saw.

the band saw is whats responsible for more amputations than anything from what i recall.

the only thing that can really replace a table saw is a track saw+ like a router table. even then though a table saw still has its place.

Get a shopsmith and you have so many choices for amputation right at hand haha.

Does anyone here know what a shopsmith is without Google? This is for the real deal construction guys, lol they been around alot longer than me the shopsmith...

 

[hvac guy]

Table saws are great when making your own tables and stands.

 

[CoCoSativas]

Table saws are great when making your own tables and stands.

Haha I bet this guy knows what a shopsmith is. Might even have one.

 

[mowood3479]

I know what a shopsmith is but only cause a buddy recently posted pics of one he restored for his wood shop... It looked like 1950 ish... But idk, just a guess

 

[queequeg152]

ive never seen anything like it... everything runs off that one power unit? thats cool in concept at least.

 

[queequeg152]

We use fien saws for other stuff but not vents. You cannot ever replace the quality of a table saw dropcut. No jig or anything g else does it the same.

what about a plunge router + template?

i mean... how good does the cut need to be anyway? all the floor registers ive ever seen have a small flange anyway... covering any rough cuts regardless.

 

[CoCoSativas]

I know what a shopsmith is but only cause a buddy recently posted pics of one he restored for his wood shop... It looked like 1950 ish... But idk, just a guess

Yeah they have been around since around then and make a even more dope tool these days

 

[CoCoSativas]

what about a plunge router + template?

i mean... how good does the cut need to be anyway? all the floor registers ive ever seen have a small flange anyway... covering any rough cuts regardless.

Type in FLUSH MOUNT VENT and you will understand how precise the cut must be. A router no fucking way dude unless you trust yourself to do it perfectly trust the blade of a saw. I don't do anything but flush mounts I've been doing flooring the longest of anything so I do it the best I can, which not to toot my own horn but I've layed floors valued over a quarter million canadian. I'd love to post pics but these are in people's homes and not only do I not want to be recognized by my work by some coincidence, it's not my home to put up pics of so I can't but I've layed every type of woof you can buy basically. Even some old 1 inch oak shit some guys grandfather had in storage and he finally wanted it in his house when his grandfather died. Lol takes a special low pressure stapler to install. Still need a table saw to rip the vents or you will destroy the board...

The table saw is the only way to garentee no damage to the finish and a perfect cut.

 

[Picarus]

This thread is great, the OP is hiding. I shot my finger twice with a crown stapler during my warehouse build. Right through the sheathing and ricochet off the stud. Sticking straight into my middle finger. Hit the bone and the finger went totally numb. Freaked me out, and hurt quite a bit afterward. So glad the build part is over.

 

[CoCoSativas]

This thread is great, the OP is hiding. I shot my finger twice with a crown stapler during my warehouse build. Right through the sheathing and ricochet off the stud. Sticking straight into my middle finger. Hit the bone and the finger went totally numb. Freaked me out, and hurt quite a bit afterward. So glad the build part is over.

It happens to all of us I almost cut off a finger on a table saw, been hit with endless shaphnel, almost been crushed by rolling pipe... it happens when you are around building shit long enough