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HatchBrew

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Hash x Cookies are almost done. Flipped on 10/19, half started budding 10 to 12 days later, so eight weeks budding would be the last week of December. Several are looking to be the first to harvest, others still haven't turned that corner...starting to harden up/final budding/beefin' up.

Getting my head around a two stage upgrade to my gardening situation. 1st use what I have to it's potential with a few necessary upgrades. Run it for a spell, dial in what strains I'll run. Upgrade to my legal limit and physical time equation...4 1K lights with the appropriate fixings and a better veg area. Still pondering what style/set up I will pursue...input welcome....
Spare room 12' wide x 16' long x 9-10' high, slight slope. 4 1000w lights, plan to use a 10x10 flowering area inside a 12x12' room, so there's a 4' section from the doorway to the wall. There's a chimney flue in the ceiling of the NW corner of the room, with a window on the north wall and a long-skinny double window on the east wall. Door is on SW corner of room. There's four outlets in the room, 120v plugs, but they on 3 different fuses on the breaker box. I could put 2 lights on 1, 2 lights on another, and fans/exhaust on the third?

Bare bulbs, vertical, scrog, larger pots & bigger plants, or perpetual 4 plants per week deal....want to make most of energy time and space.

Deciding what to run will be a fun game.

Still need to fire up the brew equipment! been playing catchup and hatching up plans since my return. Almost time to get ahead again. Lots to brew dubbels, bocks, triples, chile bier, pales galore....love living it all seasons!! Summer and winter both have their bounties!

Fed the worms, they're living in a smart pot big bed, sowing cover crops on it soon, will just lift up or fold in a side and add pureed food scraps, or dig a little hole somewhere in the interior. Should be a good amount of EWC come spring, 10+ cu ft, then more for top dressing & teas throughout the season.

Before sowing seeds...Getting ready to split the bed in half into a second big bed, it's full current (13.5 cu ft). Split in half they'll both be half full, and will receive amble bedding, food and little soil top dressing (for the cover cropping). Need to buy a paper shredder for all the newspaper that I need to do. Yard is full of cover crops to feed the lot of em, plus my veggie plants and what comes from the kitchen & coffee shop they're well fed. They'll get a lot of mushroom compost, oyster & crab shells and chicken manure too. People's waste will be my gold.
 

hicksticky

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hey Hatch, sounds like your gonna have your hands full lol
it looks like you have some room to work things out, if ya dont mind me asking, and for give me if this is the wrong place to ask, but how many do you plan on flowering at once/limit?
 

HatchBrew

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32. so a 1/3 of my allowed plant count. probably have 2nd 1/3rd in veg. Have 3 cards in house, 30 plants /100 sq ft per.
 

hicksticky

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so I'm trying to wrap my mind around it... 10x10 is your flower, you have a 12x16 room to use, geez I would almost partition that room down the middle leaving 2 @ 8 x 12'. one could be your veg area leaving the other for a extra flower room (for monsters) or prep area/veg.

you said that with the flower room you also have a 4' area, this could be a lung/post harvest room, and or male/breeding room...
just spit ballin, hope it helps sorry if not lol
 

SG1

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I agree with Hick, making two sep rooms.

You will no doubt run into power problems.
120vt circuits can't handle 2 lights not even if 20amp, breakers will be tripped every time.

2 rooms with a flip box can split the load every 12 hrs.
 

HillBilly1

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Damn I wish I had that height , a 10x10 with 4000watts
That's going to be a hot sombitch but nice nuggets
Will reward you. My 10x10 is only 6'6"
 

HatchBrew

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This is what I was thinking...
Storage space on left side. dashed line = wall to put up vent out the chimney flue on the left and out the window on the right.

But!!....
Make sense to split the rooms up!

Instead:
I will just stick to my 2 x 1000w for now and outfit the space with the proper modifications. Make some walls, buy exhaust fan, couple more oscillating.
Veg area will 400 w MH and a t5 4' 8 bulb.

Currently running a 1000w and the 400 for flower right now on 6am to 6 pm, just the t5 for veg. Will have to switch back to PM schedule soon enough.

Go with 5 gallon pots or 25 g....
 

hicksticky

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If it were me and i was looking at those kind of numbers to run, I would go with 5-7 gal. for space, $ , and time.
But on the other hand if you want big gals and a few less than roll out the 25's.
either way I am intrigued and wish you luck as I follow along :tiphat:
 

HatchBrew

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Thank you all for the input and thoughts. Will finish drawing it up and figuring out what to buy and let y'all know what shakes out.

Anybody have some fun winter solstice traditions of theirs?

Mine are mostly food based: chocolate bread pudding, Cassoulet, breakfast casserole, chicken n' noodles.

Now that I have more of a family trying to think of some fun things/traditions for us to do.

Going to be starting another group of seeds. Getting ready to free up space in flower, which will free up some veg space.

Got some Chemdawg back in my lineup, cut of Aficionado's line. Plus now apart of the GG#4 group. Excited to see these both in action.
 

SG1

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Thank you all for the input and thoughts. Will finish drawing it up and figuring out what to buy and let y'all know what shakes out.

Anybody have some fun winter solstice traditions of theirs?

Every grow room has it's unique design/power restrictions.

After a while, you can go into an empty room, and have a full detailed picture on what needs to get done in your head.
Power is the first thought.
I see 4000wts in my head, I look for power sources, baseboard heat, wall mount heaters, proximity to water heater, etc.
Next thing, exhaust.
Where do I go with hot air? Out the window? Hole in a closet ceiling?
Then where will fresh air come from?
Once those questions are answered, not the 'worry about it later shit' then I move on to room design.
Hoods, bare bulbs, how many?
Mylar, panda film?
You get the jist of it.
 

MrTea

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Every grow room has it's unique design/power restrictions.

After a while, you can go into an empty room, and have a full detailed picture on what needs to get done in your head.
Power is the first thought.
I see 4000wts in my head, I look for power sources, baseboard heat, wall mount heaters, proximity to water heater, etc.
Next thing, exhaust.
Where do I go with hot air? Out the window? Hole in a closet ceiling?
Then where will fresh air come from?
Once those questions are answered, not the 'worry about it later shit' then I move on to room design.
Hoods, bare bulbs, how many?
Mylar, panda film?
You get the jist of it.

So for a 4-5k grow what all does one need for wiring it up to allow for 4 lights to be plugged in? 10 gauge wire, 30 amp fuse, wire nuts, (4 30amp 220v outlets????)Need a good resource on splitting a 220v outlet into 4 outlets for the 240v lights to plug into. How much are we looking on expenses? You are the man, SG.
 

HatchBrew

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Well going to keep it at 2k watts for flower.
In a enclosed room in a room.
The wall I'm creating will be floor to sealing made of panda film, with a zipper door on the left hand side when you're facing it Will build a 2x4 frame for support/straight clean looking walls. Existing Walls will be covered in mylar. Window (higher window- runs along wall) will be blocked/blacked out.
Dimension: 6' deep- will give room between pots and walls.
12' wide- room on both sides for fans

Air:
exhaust: thru aforementioned window. Top Right corner. Will buy 8" 720 CFM duct fan

intake- not sure what to use.
But thinking about 4 inlets along fabricated wall's base. Have four computer fans that I could use, just cover them with a filter/screen to prevent unwanted intake of bugs/debris/dusts. Will be intake AC and/or heated air from the house, depending on time of year. Usually 65-seventy degrees inside.

Circulation. 3 oscillating wall mounted--two in opposite back corners & one front middle, all at canopy height. 2 box fan pushing across the bottoms of the plants.

Heating the room isn't a concern, Keeping it dry and not too hot are the issues I'll run into. PM outside night temps here are consistent...40-55*F. But again intake from house's air, could intake fresh outside are from the other window in the room if that'd be better. Both lights have lenses but could run them bare...

Back window:
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Ceiling, that beam is at the 6' mark, where the wall will be created.
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Part of back window that I will exhaust from:
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What it looks like now, getting ready to harvest some of these, have added in the next round to get them going= why it is crowded.
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SG1

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So for a 4-5k grow what all does one need for wiring it up to allow for 4 lights to be plugged in? 10 gauge wire, 30 amp fuse, wire nuts, (4 30amp 220v outlets????)Need a good resource on splitting a 220v outlet into 4 outlets for the 240v lights to plug into. How much are we looking on expenses? You are the man, SG.

'IF' you have 240vt available, then 10-2 wire to the source.
T-104 intermatic timer 240vt timer.
Run plugs from the timer.
Run up to 5 lights comfortably with spare juice from a 30amp circuit.
Plugs can be split or daisy chained.
Daisy chaining is easiest.
 

HatchBrew

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There is this right outside that back window:
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The room has 4 standard outlets in it coming from 3 different fuses... does that help the situation at all? Good enough to run the 2k plus equipment.
 

SG1

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Pics are so large I had to get down to 45% to fit my screen.

Ummm! Is that a dryer outlet?
That's 240vt w/min 30 amp.


Is that water coming through the wall?
Def see a mold problem.
 

HatchBrew

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Yes dryer outlet.

It's not coming thru the wall, just condensation going down the wall. The back of the house is a patio with a big metal roof over it. Moisture loves to collect on the underside of the roof and drip down, that's probably water from the roof or condensation. or mixture of the two. It's so wet here right now, raining for 12 days, no break for another week or so.
 

HatchBrew

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Just went out and looked. Couple leaks/holes where the house roof meets the patio roof. House roof is probably full up of water, just leaking out and over where it can. I'd let the home-owner know, but he's not going to do anything about it.
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Well that was fun, just hopped up on the roof, cleared out a couple downspouts and put a tarp over the leaking section to lead the water out and away from the leaky spots. Think the patio roof is a little more level than it used to be, missing a proper slant for gravity to do it's thing.
 

HatchBrew

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How's the humidity in the grow room from all that?

From the rain...outside goes from 100% down to maybe 80 during the day. Grow room is okay, about 60% avg. Little high for my liking but it'll pass. Dehumidifier comes tomorrow.
 

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