Hashco - Origins Hash Pack - Legal Smoke Report

[Hashislife]

The flower is always dry. To pass Health Canada regulations most - if not all - is irradiated. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

The hash is - so far . . .

1) pressed kief
2) whatever plant matter mixed with oil
3) expensive bubble

There are a few makers trying to do it right but consumers want the high THC % and the cheap price that only the oiled hash gives them. We tend to forget that the hash from the 70s etc was usually not very potent. It was great tasting and each region was unique but I doubt that it ever rose above 30 - 40% THC and even that was very rare. Some Nepalese fingertip is the only one I can remember that I had back in the day that was truly spectacular.

apparently some nepal temple balls went up to 60% but i was not born so i reserve my answer. but frankly the thc level is not that important, for example my Himalaya gold does not exceed 16% thc, yet I find it more powerful than killer kush at 25%, everything is in the synergy between the different cannabinoids and the entourage effect.
you scare me when you tell me that people ask for this crap hash, I intended to create a small business of traditional hash (with humanitarian vision and respecting the extraction methods of the original strain) in Canada, now I doubt a little, maybe better go to Thailand

LOL

The future is producers mixing BHO with random crap, and then consumers pressing the BHO out with a hair curling iron because they don't want to smoke the random crap.

Black market hash with ghi or other shit look better for the health the world it's mad

Bottled pressed drysift

Bottled pressed bubble hash

 

[bibi40]

Have you guys seen this, a real rolling pin you can fill with water..

Rolling Pin

Roll, press, and cut! The starters of a festive meal Lightweight, sturdy, and classic with several features to help you prepare pastry and dough, easily and expertly.11.4 x 3"/27 x 8 cm.

www.tupperware.com

didn' knwo this item , thanks for it !
personnaly i thought the glass provide better conductivity for the temp than plastic , wich is a bit of an isolant ,

can be usefull , but for this price ...
i got my free ( not so free i paid it with the lemonade ... ) empty lemonade bottle

 

[bibi40]

apparently some nepal temple balls went up to 60% but i was not born so i reserve my answer. but frankly the thc level is not that important, for example my Himalaya gold does not exceed 16% thc, yet I find it more powerful than killer kush at 25%, everything is in the synergy between the different cannabinoids and the entourage effect.
you scare me when you tell me that people ask for this crap hash, I intended to create a small business of traditional hash (with humanitarian vision and respecting the extraction methods of the original strain) in Canada, now I doubt a little, maybe better go to Thailand

Black market hash with ghi or other shit look better for the health the world it's mad

Bottled pressed drysift
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Bottled pressed bubble hash
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is it the same piece of hash before and after bottle pressing ?

 

[Hashislife]

is it the same piece of hash before and after bottle pressing ?

No, the first and jellow it's a dry sift mix of my harvest and little more. The second it's a bubble full spectrum of bad weed.
More pics of the dry:

 

[tobedetermined]

if i can , my advice is to let it sit like thise like one month , then redo the hot bottle tech ,
that' s how i get the best results , hot bottle tech twice with one month sit between ,

Even though it is made with aged flower/trim I decided to let it sit for a month to gel together. I will try another bottle at one month. Thanks, bibi!

 

[Hashislife]

Even though it is made with aged flower/trim I decided to let it sit for a month to gel together. I will try another bottle at one month. Thanks, bibi!

It's the best way, curring before press, normally I press my hash 2weeks/one month after extract in little anti UV box

 

[tobedetermined]

ou scare me when you tell me that people ask for this crap hash, I intended to create a small business of traditional hash (with humanitarian vision and respecting the extraction methods of the original strain) in Canada, now I doubt a little, maybe better go to Thailand

Well, your average consumer often buys the wrong shit for the wrong reasons and cannabis seems to attract people with strong opinions. I watch the hash reviews on reddit r/TheOCS which is reviews of products released in Ontario. The overwhelming hash of choice is Vortex because it is cheap and it is 40% THC. But your $13/gram gets you a hash that tastes like oil and has a muddy uninspired high.

 

[Hashislife]

Well, your average consumer often buys the wrong shit for the wrong reasons and cannabis seems to attract people with strong opinions. I watch the hash reviews on reddit r/TheOCS which is reviews of products released in Ontario. The overwhelming hash of choice is Vortex because it is cheap and it is 40% THC. But your $13/gram gets you a hash that tastes like oil and has a muddy uninspired high.

It's very sad, i prefer smoke a 5% border Afghani, of this crap, that's not hash.
Finally if you don't have choice, in Canada, no it's better buy low price weed (i have see weed for lower of 4$) and make hash with that?

 

[tobedetermined]

The best real* hash that I have tried is probably North 40. He is a small micro in North Saskatchewan. It has not been easy. Here is a YT interview where he talks about his struggles.

* real but not traditional

 

[Hashislife]

I saw it, I'm already subscribed to bubbleman, even if I don't understand everything xD
already real hash is a good thing, it gives hope, hoping that the world will finally understand that quality must come before quantity.
and that as a 5% beer can be better than a cheap vodka, the thc level is not everything.

 

[Hashislife]

Good Year Everyone
Yesterday i have make my "Millesime 2023"
It's a very good year, for quality, when I press it i show it in a better page for that.

Super skunk complete plant, bubble hash, 225(pyramidal bag)/180/25, here four quality of 25 + the first grade of 180

Himalayan gold/killer kush 90% and other (psicodelicia, super skunk, and little more), bubble hash, 225(pyramidal bag)/180/25, here four quality of 25 + the first grade of 180

 

[NotYourSaviour]

Hashco - Origins Hash Pack

Genetics: Unspecified hybrids
Grower/Producer: The Hash Corporation – Canada

Hash # 1 - Blonde
Overall Rating: For a low % hash, the high is very good but still no cigar for this one
Smell: mainly pine with a hint of lime
Taste: kief taste
Consistency: a crumbly greenish blonde pressed cube
Duration: medium
Potency: Tested @ 29% THC with <0.1% CBD

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Hashco is one of the ‘shell’ companies in the Canadian cannabis scene but I don’t really mean that in any negative light. They have partnered with Medz Cannabis Inc who have a growing and a production facility in the Toronto suburbs. Medz also runs a farmgate store under the Royal Cannabis Supply Co moniker. I know that that is a lot of brands to throw at you but this seems to be the evolution of cannabis in Canada, particularity for the craft growers/producers. Co-ops, shared facilities and complementary partner companies help spread the costs and the risks.

The first product in this shared pack is a Blonde Hash. They call it hash but in reality it is pressed kief. It has the fibrous texture and taste of kief and the THC count of 29% confirms this. That said, it is a nice creeper high of OK – but not great – duration. The texture is loose fibre crumble so ropes are out of the question. I mention hash ropes because Hashco hit on a great marketing scheme by discovering and distributing the Hash Kettle made by mastahglass on IG. This has taken the Canadian hash community by storm and it is continuously sold out despite its $179 price. Not bad for a clear glass teapot with a hash hanger inside. But their own blond hash will not work in it since you can’t make a rope . . .

Yeah, this hash will be in the Don’t Rebuy pile.

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That is a stolen pic of a hash kettle above. if you want to see it in use, Remo tries one in Hash Kettle Wednesday. I am hoping that Santa brings me one for Christmas. Or I would be just as happy with it's much cheaper imitator called the Happle. Do you hear me Santa?

Hash # 2 – Gold Seal Hash - Black
Overall Rating: Not much point in buying this again
Smell: what smell?
Taste: muted incense with a kiefish taste
Consistency: a nice soft black lump
Duration: short - medium
Potency: Tested @ 33.6% THC with 0.92% CBD

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This is the 2nd sample of hash in the pack. It is their flagship hash, called Gold Seal Hash. They are using the Gold Seal name to associate their hash with the old (and new) imported black hash that was often stamped with a gold logo. Hell, even the local black market hash producers stamp their imitations with gold seals names now using stupid names like Mercedes and Rolex, so it was no surprise to see a legal producer use it. But of course, there is no gold seal on the hash because that would be against federal health regulations . . .

Anyways, this hash is another disappointment. The malleability, the colour, the look, the texture are all good but there is no smell. Even when I rip it apart and smell the chunk, I only ‘think’ I smell something. It is pressed kief like their blonde. You can smell it as it burns and taste it as it smokes. And the high is like a nice smooth road bump – it gets you up and it is fun but it doesn’t last long.

Another failure.

Available @ retail cannabis stores in Canada. $31.99 for 2 x 1 gram

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@tobedetermined

Thanks for your perspective on the current legal Canadian market! What's the magic word? In this case seemingly patience again until things have settled even though it is already legal since a couple of years! Probably has to do with the thing in itsself as majority of people focus on price rather than quality no matter which product in general, old hat sadly it seems.
I always compare that to beer and wine sorta as many claim to have a clue but just don't at all respectively prefer it cheap[also there will always be a better general standard than compared to countries where it is still illegal] so this will be a sorta niche probably ; many factors in gerneral and too long story . Though there will 'hashish artists' come at some point while this will not turn mainstream. Fingers crossed. Time will tell again.

The hype about that hash kettle I can't understand at all but so be it. Seems to be designed for indeed lots of hash ; nice enough looking gimmick. Each to their own.

The guy you mention reviewing it I have in mind too as well as have seen the test though don't get me started on him ; he represents of course a certain type of approach. Hands down I respect his experience and no jealousy from my side but just not my(testing)approach among other things(here is someone with a strong opinion too myself though trying to be always open minded, balancing act, anyone ?)and too don't see much passion but mostly a business man. Though I can relate to some degree and only take a look for indeed having a look at his tested products.

 

[Somatek]

It is very ironic that just as I am getting to know how to make really good hash that I have to make it worse to use a smoking device. But I still want too.

I've been making a core hash snake with lower grades (2nd wash) and wrapping a true bubble hash snake around that to smoke it in a happle. The core gives it the stability and acts as a wick, the bubble hash does its bubbling, melty goodness while having the stability to burn properly.

 

[Somatek]

They are both cannabis resin but kief is not hash. Not in taste, texture or smell.

I love how pot heads are constantly redefining things; according to R.C. Clarke kief is the term for unpressed resin before it's turned into hash through pressing which I assume is what the other person was referring to. Where did you pick up your definitions of kief vs hash?

 

[Hashislife]

I love how pot heads are constantly redefining things; according to R.C. Clarke kief is the term for unpressed resin before it's turned into hash through pressing which I assume is what the other person was referring to. Where did you pick up your definitions of kief vs hash?

kief,
Berber word, with kaif in his arab origins
is generally the product residues after sifting mixed with tobacco, the remains of weed leaf ect ... originally it represents the Beldia weed mixed with black tobacco from the mountains of Morocco. old Moroccans still appreciate it.
I love R.C Clarke but that an error, you can ask to a Moroccan people for confirmation

 

[Somatek]

kief,
Berber word, with kaif in his arab origins
is generally the product residues after sifting mixed with tobacco, the remains of weed leaf ect ... originally it represents the Beldia weed mixed with black tobacco from the mountains of Morocco. old Moroccans still appreciate it.
I love R.C Clarke but that an error, you can ask to a Moroccan people for confirmation

I don't remember his comments being specific to Morocco as much as a comment on middle Eastern culture, which matches how the Afghan people I've met use the word as we've talked about how westerners have co-opted/perverted the word. It sounds more like that's a local evolution/slang use of an older word, do you have any references outside of anecdotes? As far as I know the use of kief predates the introduction of tobacco from the America's.

 

[Hashislife]

I don't remember his comments being specific to Morocco as much as a comment on middle Eastern culture, which matches how the Afghan people I've met use the word as we've talked about how westerners have co-opted/perverted the word. It sounds more like that's a local evolution/slang use of an older word, do you have any references outside of anecdotes? As far as I know the use of kief predates the introduction of tobacco from the America's.

KIEF​

male name
Etymology:17th century, kaif . Borrowed from Arabic kayf, "well-being", then "well-being caused by a drug; dope ".
1. Midday rest, siesta, among Orientals; state of relaxation, of well-being.
2. In North Africa, in the East, name of a drug derived from Indian hemp; also designates the state of bliss, of euphoria which follows the taking of this drug. (We also write and pronounce Kif. )

The word it's posterior of tobacco apparition
It's the academical definition

Edit: I asked a Moroccan friend to be sure. (It must be taken into account that his definition is not academic, but the one used in everyday life) " Kif is a Moroccan term for dried cannabis. This is what the old people smoke in Morocco in their traditional sibsi. They mix it with a little black tobacco, and smoke it after removing the many seeds present in the buds."

 

[Somatek]

KIEF​

male name
Etymology:17th century, kaif . Borrowed from Arabic kayf, "well-being", then "well-being caused by a drug; dope ".
1. Midday rest, siesta, among Orientals; state of relaxation, of well-being.
2. In North Africa, in the East, name of a drug derived from Indian hemp; also designates the state of bliss, of euphoria which follows the taking of this drug. (We also write and pronounce Kif. )

The word it's posterior of tobacco apparition
It's the academical definition

Edit: I asked a Moroccan friend to be sure. (It must be taken into account that his definition is not academic, but the one used in everyday life) " Kif is a Moroccan term for dried cannabis. This is what the old people smoke in Morocco in their traditional sibsi. They mix it with a little black tobacco, and smoke it after removing the many seeds present in the buds."

Which is what I think it boils down to, it's more accurately described as local slang with different connotations in different areas. This is an interesting discussion about it by people who speak Arabic where some people trace it back to Ottoman or early Egyptian dialects.

https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/%D9%83%D9%8A%D9%81-kief-kiffen-%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%B9%D1%84.2765422/

Which parallels a lot in the pot world where some places use spliff specifically to mean a mixed tobacco/pot joint and others (lime around here) use it interchangeably.

 

[tobedetermined]

R.C. Clarke kief is the term for unpressed resin before it's turned into hash through pressing

Well, he had it mostly right. It is not just resin though. When you beat very dry cannabis with a stick, a certain % of your return will be plant matter. That is what I taste in kief. The fibrous plant matter that is mixed in with the resin. In hash, this has been combined with the resin through the application of heat and pressure and it tastes hashy. They are different animals.

 

[Hashislife]

yes it is very interesting, we should make a small glossary of international terms, as well as their local variants. to avoid confusion, such as kief and its variants, or charas (hand-rubbed hash) and chars (pressed afghan hash)
hashish means hay in Old Arabic (Ave Roes a historian explains very well the history of cannabis in the Middle East)

as well as so many other confusing words.