Hash plots: Is this a easier way to do dry country Guerrilla?

[Reibsi]

This sounds like a lot of work at the beginning...........It`s going to take a pile of clones and or seeds to do this......Your going to have to deal with predators...how be it the animal kind. I had a friend who tried something like this and it do work in some locals but when a rabbit or deer finds these nice and tasty young seedlings.........he`s gonna hop from one to the next until he gets hid fill............and then he`ll return the next day to start all over again.........I`ve seen this happen and it aint pretty.....and the worst part of all is that your not gonna know until it`s to late.
Don`t get me wrong thou............i hope that it does work for you.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

PazVerdeRadical- I'm not sure if you are speaking to me, but I'm actually going to be planting in areas that are much more isolated than where I plant now, thats the idea, to make places that would be hard to visit often for regular care useable...

Hola BackCountry, I was not speaking to you, sorry, I should have quoted the thing that set me off:

im upping my planting this year from 80 to an unknown ammount throught many spots. i would like the idea you have ( going out and planting seeds, coming back mid oct to find what buds are left) for the spots that i dont feel 100% safe/worth my time. ive been thinking about this and you just solidified my ideas, thanx alot, bigassfrostynugs

as well as other comments like planting with this method in cultivated balckberry fields etc...

the way you are doing it is the only way to do it safely, far away, and I know that you have the experience to take you seriously when you say a secluded area you mean it. one should also know the surrounding areas well too, which you also explained that you did. but not everyone is registering all details and seem to forget the security aspect of gorila grows, whatever methods we use. because a bust in an area usually unleashes extensive searches around the areas by leo. and if they find the numbers of these hashplots you guys are discussing will bring on more heat than needed.

lets hope people reading here do not forget to be safe and stealth.

peace

 

[seventynine]

I'm sorry I just wanted to clarify if you thought I wanted to plant in CULTIVATED blackberry(blackberry here is used as a term of art...think these aren't proper blackberry's...possibly himalayas.) fields (unless someone else posted about blackberries.)

I'm talking about places in the middle of nowhere, but we have lots of WILD blackberry bushes growing around here (especially close to water sources.) So my thought was, I could get good cover that way (no one wants to walk through tons of thorns including most deer) and hopefully be close to water.

Anyone know what kind of soil these naturally grow in though and whether their roots are so deep that it's difficult to get the ground dug into holes?

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[blynx]

I've been looking for info on yields on Bubble hash, so far one report says 10 grams of popcorn/ Sugar trim makes 1 gram of Bubble.
Another report says 6-9 grams of Sugar trim makes 1 gram of Bubble.

I'm still looking for more info but so far I am optimistic, I anticipate that my bud quality would be more than equal to high grade trim in Trichrome content. I'd be happy to get 1 gram of hash from a 20 grams of bud, or even less really.

I would estimate 1-5% return, if you get more consider it a bonus.

I was getting a 10% return from my super sugary trim using 99% iso. I got some bags and using the same quality trim, I've only managed to get my return up to about 6%. (these are indoor plants)

Part of the difference is that using bags you knock the heads off the stalks and initially, most of the stalks stay on the plant. Iso dissolves the whole trichome, stalk and head.

Now you can do multiple bubble runs, but I think you will find that you even tho you are knocking heads off that the first round missed, but you are also knocking more non-active stalks into the mix too.

Genetics play a part in the amount of trichs available, but these are outdoor POO and not an indoor crop of René.

I would estimate low (like maybe 3%) and be picky on what is used to bubble, ie buds no leaves.

 

[Buddle]

outdoor poo

outdoor poo

I agree it depends on genetics.My rom x ap13 made GREAT bubble and oil.Eight grams of chemdawg(outdoor) produced a nice vial of amber colored oil.These were good returns no doubt.(Single rinse)It also depends on the skills of the person doing the extracting.I have a friend that does mine for me.
Blynx...I can only imagine the LadyG and Sour Creek extracts...YUM!!

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

blynx- Everyone else is saying 9% return from good trim, are you saying you only get 6% because you are refining it further, or using other techniques that are more selective?

I think even my low maintinece outdoor buds will match and surpass anyones indoor sugar trim for yield, especially my new C99xOR95, its crazy packed with trichromes, even in shaded branches under the plant, and the high is great(gotta love that outdoor quality!!).

All I can do is try and see how it works, I'll let you guys know this fall.

 

[blynx]

I do 2 runs. The first is by hand for 20 mins with a wooden spoon. The 2nd run is with a mixer for 10 mins. When looking at the material under a 30x loupe after it has been processed twice, I can see the occasional trich head still on the material, but I see stalks all over the material. It is my understanding that the stalks aren't active, so why try to remove them by processing more?

I guess another way to think about it would be. If there is 1g of trich heads and 1g of trich stalks, then there are 2g of trichs to remove, but ideally you really only want the 1g of heads cuz those are active.

If you use ISO, it dissolves all of the trich (head and stalk), plus some plant waxes. You should get all 2g of trich material and maybe some waxes so you might end up with more than 2g of 'hash' (yet only 1g is active).

Bubblehash depends on physical force to remove the trich head, so you aren't guaranteed a return like you are with a solvent. Depending on method and materials you have a much greater range of return, from 0g to 2g (maybe more if you break up the plant material real small so it makes it into the bags). Ideally you would like just that 1g of trich heads, but since you aren't using a solvent, you can't guarantee that you will get a high return. Also why overprocess stuff to get more 'material' that doesn't get ya high, that doesn't make sense for personal stash imo.

 

[blynx]

If you don't have bags and haven't made bubblehash I would recommend getting some asap and working on your technique so you aren't learning how to do it come harvest.

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

blynx- Yeah, I figure I should start by using it on the slightly moldy buds I got this year(anything with more than a spot was trashed), and also on the buds I grew for making seed, after I remove the seed.
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A few things I should make clear to the group:

#1- I will be still growing several plots where the plants are clones and sexed seedlings, and they will be grown specificly for growing the chunkiest, prettiest buds my freinds and I like to smoke.

#2- I will be growing the maximum number of plants I can yield time to with the highest quality I can. This means the maximum number I can visit and take care of without spending every day off I have this summer tending plots. I'll still grow at least as much bud as I did this past summer.

#3- These hash plots will only suppliment my normal crop, they will not be depended on. This is purely just a attempt to exploit areas that would normally be too far away to care for, and as a way to continue growing more smoke even after I have stretched my summers free time to the limit. Its a strategy to cheat the system a little bit.

#4- This is only a experiment, I don't expect much, I'm not depending on it. Its as much a excuse to go hike the hills for future plots as it is to actually plant. Its basicly cheep thrills

#5- I would not advise new growers to launch into this idea for their first seasons of growing, get a few seasons under your belt taking care of small plots, and learn the ropes.

 

[marto]

The way i'd be inclined to do it is plant in early march and scatter them in sunny as possible locations and then let the rains take care of them til may at which time you harvest. Not an option for those with cold spring obviously. Security is less concern this time of year and if lucky with weather ground will stay moist. Just gotta make sure your strains feel like flowering on short notice.

 

[Cascadia]

Yeah, thats a plan for SoCal/Tex/Florida, too cold here for a natural spring crop.

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

Yeah, thats a plan for SoCal/Tex/Florida, too cold here for a natural spring crop.

Are you in SW Oregon?

 

[hamstring]

Bump!

BC where you at on a well deserved vacay? Getting close to spring!

 

[GeorgeSmiley]

Hey BACKCOUNTRY haven't seen you post in a few days and was hoping everything's going well. You know me as another name, I'll send you a note when I hit 50 posts. Check in man!