What's new
  • ICMag with help from Landrace Warden and The Vault is running a NEW contest in November! You can check it here. Prizes are seeds & forum premium access. Come join in!

Happy World Bi-Polar Day March 30th

Ringodoggie

Well-known member
Outstanding! That's the best way to look at it. As I learned back in the '70s from Richard Alpert/Baba Ram Das, Just Be Here Now. Don't worry about the future or feel guilty about the past, just realize where you are now and try to make it the best that you possibly can. It won't always be great, but it won't always be terrible either.
I think it was Buddha that said, "Dwell not on the past nor dream of the future. Rather focus on today.
 

imiubu

Well-known member
Whew, did y'all get a hold of my diary?

BP diagnosed abt. 30 yrs ago.
They had me thinking
I was broken/ crazy as I could think, work etc., faster
and smarter than they.
Instead of addressing the chemical imbalances,
the medical industrial complex would rather keep
us on their fucking poison pills.
EF that.

I stopped believing their lies and chose instead to find
the core source and address it naturally rather than
with their artificial poisons/ bandaid 'fixes'.

Never have I been so naturally happy with real energy
and no more fluctuating 'moods'.
Do I miss the manic times... sure... sometimes.

How you might ask?
I simply changed my eating habits.

 

EnjoyingLife

Well-known member
Self-medicating is super common for manics. Something to do with R1 and R2 receptors, if I'm not mistaken. We spend much of our lives chasing drugs and alcohol. I did all of it. And, all of it too much. But, my big one was actually alcohol. Really fucked up my life. Weed is cool but it's really just another dead end for me. I smoke 10 to 20 joints a day plus hash, edibles, blah, blah. I don't even get high any more it's just maintenance. I wish I could quit but I can't.

To be honest, when I awake in an anxiety attack. or, those days when thoughts of hate and killing just won't leave me alone. When the mind races like a white water river........ I think about my plants. I think ahead to the next 'cannabis task' on my list. How long until my next harvest. What strain is next. How many days until this or that. It's really the only peace in my life. I worry that some day that will also be gone. Then, I'll have no peace.

But, today is not that day. :)
Noooo
you'll find another passion to bring peace
It's ones choice to cultivate what they choose.
 

armedoldhippy

Well-known member
Veteran
As you can tell from the report cards, that happened frequently.😂.
i got beat like a yard sale drum all through high school. i was either late to school, to a class, didn't show up at all, or left early. assistant principal gave up on beating some sense into me, lol... only thing i liked about high school was graphic arts and gym class. well, the girls too...
 

CharlesU Farley

Well-known member
Whew, did y'all get a hold of my diary?

BP diagnosed abt. 30 yrs ago.
They had me thinking
I was broken/ crazy as I could think, work etc., faster
and smarter than they.
Instead of addressing the chemical imbalances,
the medical industrial complex would rather keep
us on their fucking poison pills.
EF that.

I stopped believing their lies and chose instead to find
the core source and address it naturally rather than
with their artificial poisons/ bandaid 'fixes'.

Never have I been so naturally happy with real energy
and no more fluctuating 'moods'.
Do I miss the manic times... sure... sometimes.

How you might ask?
I simply changed my eating habits.


This is behind a paywall, so I haven't read it, but the headline from the Washington Post backs up what has been successful for you, congratulations!


High fat keto diet helps bipolar
 

I Care

Well-known member
I learned about the importance of cholesterol as a chemical pathway. Basic cholesterol, hydration and avoiding substance abuse is major major for me. Sleep can cause me to detiorate pretty quickly, start thinking irrationally again. It’s not as much a self worth feeling as happens when caught up in the whole substance abuse thing. Even with the sleep loss, simply eating good can curb the effects of whatever is causing some psychological detioration.
 

Putembk

One Toke Over The Line
Premium user
I think Bi-polar syndrome has helped me get ahead in life. Like stated before I can work twice as fast and it has made me extremely competitive. Winning is an obsession. What ever I did in life I was driven to be the best weather I actually was or not.

I got into sales in my mid 20's and it was my calling. We had salesman of the month contest and I quickly rose to the top. Then sales manager and General Sales Manager, General Manager, Executive Manager and finally 10% owner.

I out worked and had more energy that almost everybody. I don't sleep, I dwell at night on how to get better.

I have been retired for over 14 years now and my hobbies have become my obsession.

I know I have this and I think it has helped me mostly control it. However, once in a while I have a severe mania attack. It takes me a couple of days to get over it.

I have read this whole thread a couple of times and I just say to myself ......yep, yep.....I agree. Good read.
 

CharlesU Farley

Well-known member
I think Bi-polar syndrome has helped me get ahead in life. Like stated before I can work twice as fast and it has made me extremely competitive. Winning is an obsession. What ever I did in life I was driven to be the best weather I actually was or not.

I got into sales in my mid 20's and it was my calling. We had salesman of the month contest and I quickly rose to the top. Then sales manager and General Sales Manager, General Manager, Executive Manager and finally 10% owner.

I out worked and had more energy that almost everybody. I don't sleep, I dwell at night on how to get better.

I have been retired for over 14 years now and my hobbies have become my obsession.

I know I have this and I think it has helped me mostly control it. However, once in a while I have a severe mania attack. It takes me a couple of days to get over it.

I have read this whole thread a couple of times and I just say to myself ......yep, yep.....I agree. Good read.
Right there with you man!

High achievers and intense, intelligent, emotional people who are also competitive are intimidating to most people. In another thread, I compared Owsley Stanley, Nevil Schoenmaker and Hunter S Thompson as being intimidating assholes but they certainly to the fuck knew what they were talking about. The point I was trying to make:

Others can learn from us assholes. ;)
 

Putembk

One Toke Over The Line
Premium user
Right there with you man!

High achievers and intense, intelligent, emotional people who are also competitive are intimidating to most people. In another thread, I compared Owsley Stanley, Nevil Schoenmaker and Hunter S Thompson as being intimidating assholes but they certainly to the fuck knew what they were talking about. The point I was trying to make:

Others can learn from us assholes. ;)
I would have never posted that except for here. Most don't understand and would call it bragging.
 

Ringodoggie

Well-known member
The really sad part is that if a child is Bi-Polar these days, they drug them down to be like the other kids. That's fucked up.

I pray that some day society will see this as the gift that it is, rather than the disease they believe it to be.

I have even thought, at times, that we are the next step is evolution to a better human being. As mentioned.... faster, more at it, more focused..... simply put.... better.

And as old Will Sonnet used to say, "No brag, just fact". LOL

How many of us had Bi-Polar Fathers? Man, my Dad sure was. Heavy drinker as that was about all that was available in those days for self-medication.

Poor Mom. LOL

My Dad would be 108 years old this year. He died at age 61.
 

CharlesU Farley

Well-known member
The really sad part is that if a child is Bi-Polar these days, they drug them down to be like the other kids. That's fucked up.
Totally! Salvation is not found in a pill, unless you have a bacterial infection and are taking an antibiotic. :)

I pray that some day society will see this as the gift that it is, rather than the disease they believe it to be.

Unfortunately, don't think that's going to happen.

How many of us had Bi-Polar Fathers? Man, my Dad sure was. Heavy drinker as that was about all that was available in those days for self-medication.

Poor Mom. LOL

My Dad would be 108 years old this year. He died at age 61.
Mine certainly was on both accounts and my mother dealt with it by using barbiturates. I'll take self-medicating with cannabis over those two, any day of the week. (y)
 

Putembk

One Toke Over The Line
Premium user
For two years I took a drug called Zyprexia. It helped with the mania. But the side effects turned me into different person. Slowed my metabolism and turned me into a zombie. I gained 40 lbs nothing upset me and took away my competitive spirit.

I got addicted to it and it took me a long time to wean myself from it. I WILL NEVER TAKE THAT OR ANYTHING LIKE IT AGAIN.
 

farmerfischer

Well-known member
For two years I took a drug called Zyprexia. It helped with the mania. But the side effects turned me into different person. Slowed my metabolism and turned me into a zombie. I gained 40 lbs nothing upset me and took away my competitive spirit.

I got addicted to it and it took me a long time to wean myself from it. I WILL NEVER TAKE THAT OR ANYTHING LIKE IT AGAIN.
I used to take vraylar and prephenizie from time to time and latuda sucked.. the vraylar messed my blood pressure up and turned my face red.. lol.. the prephenizie (trilifon)* caused me to gain alot of weight..as well as the latuda...
Im take nothing but weed and alcohol occasionally and gabapentin ( replacing the valum i was on) to calm my nerves and manic episodes.. its cool to see people working through it without medicating them selves out using pills..
 

imiubu

Well-known member
Lithium caused me to feel like I had lead in my veins.
I could not even get off the sofa for a full day.
I never took it again.

Later, Depacote caused my hair to fall out.

Then later on, Zyprexa and Prozac in combination caused me to
gain nearly 80#'s.
I went to a new doc and told him that I was dead
inside, my mind is numb and I am now fat and sexless.
He chuckled, and I said yeah it sounds funny but it isn't.

That doc helped me to better understand my condition and
over the years helped me to transition off all the meds.
There were more med's of course, that I now can't remember.

Of all the shit they had me believing would help and did the
most damage is the Benzodiazipines.
Those really effed me up.

I am so even keel now and medication free for over 15 years,
that it took me quite some time to even recognize myself.
I was still fat and unhappy but managed to loose some fat
along the way.
Until I changed the foods I ate, I did not loose all that medication
fat and become genuinely happy + my mood has stabilized.
I now ride the kiddie rides instead of those speeding roller coasters.
It is wonderful.

If I were to miss anything at all... it is definitely the manias.
I mean, come on... I was a god of sorts. When my mind was
revving, I could solve all the problems of the world (except my own).
I do not miss the dark side of mania though... nope, not one bit.
People in my life who loved and cared for me would become
exhausted as my energy was so high and I could think so
far beyond where they were at. Sigh.

At one point in my 'treatment', I asked the doc why he was
so concerned with controlling my manias as the depressions
were what was destroying my life.
His answer was that ppl tend to engage in dangerous ways while in mania.
Okay, I did have to give him that one.
However...
NO... I can out think and out do and the industry just wants
me obedient, they can't have folks who can actually think.

Healing my body and becoming healthy has since been my quest.
Doing so clean and without toxins is my choice of 'drug' now.
I still use cannabis but much less of it these days and... drink
some coffee but hey... no one's perfect ;)

First thing I needed to do was to remove all toxins and
that included the toxic ppl in my life, first and foremost.
Wow, what a revelation that the people in my life were
trying to keep me 'sick', hold me back. eff em.

There was a time when I was embarrassed to admit
to being Bi Polar, felt shamed that I was 'broken'.
I no longer care what other's think.

This is my story, it is who I am and what I went through;
primarily due to misunderstanding and a system designed
to keep us on their medications tit by blaming us for being
broken/ sick/ crazy.

I am and never have been any of those labels.

Never have I been happier, healthier and full of genuine
energy in my entire life and...
I finally love and accept myself, warts and all.

I'll never go back to eating the SAD and all the toxins
those same industries tell us are safe and healthy.
Nope, again... eff em.
OH... and F*ck Bill Gates that crazy MF'r.

This is my life and I am out of their reach/ control.

:trampoline: :smoke out:
 

CharlesU Farley

Well-known member
Was on a manic run last night, again, and I'm real busy right now with cannabis right now but I think this could be an _exceedingly_ valuable thread for a lot of us participants here.

I thought about starting a new thread with the subject title "If you think you're mentally fucked up and you know cannabis isn't the cause, come on in and discuss" but even I realized that would be pretty inappropriate. ;)


Not to hijack your thread Ringodoggy and intentionally cause thread drift, but I think this could be a pretty useful thread.

What got me thinking about it was my previous encounter with Farmer Fisher on another forum, how out of hand it got, and now realizing what the root cause of the problem was.

Give you a hint, it was two pretty similar people having a bad and frustrating day at the same time and communicating via a forum, where it's real easy to project an image that you aren't in real life, and there's no visual and auditory clues to inform you what that person is actually _feeling_, not typing on a fucking keyboard.


So what do you all think?
 

farmerfischer

Well-known member
Lithium caused me to feel like I had lead in my veins.
I could not even get off the sofa for a full day.
I never took it again.

Later, Depacote caused my hair to fall out.

Then later on, Zyprexa and Prozac in combination caused me to
gain nearly 80#'s.
I went to a new doc and told him that I was dead
inside, my mind is numb and I am now fat and sexless.
He chuckled, and I said yeah it sounds funny but it isn't.

That doc helped me to better understand my condition and
over the years helped me to transition off all the meds.
There were more med's of course, that I now can't remember.

Of all the shit they had me believing would help and did the
most damage is the Benzodiazipines.
Those really effed me up.

I am so even keel now and medication free for over 15 years,
that it took me quite some time to even recognize myself.
I was still fat and unhappy but managed to loose some fat
along the way.
Until I changed the foods I ate, I did not loose all that medication
fat and become genuinely happy + my mood has stabilized.
I now ride the kiddie rides instead of those speeding roller coasters.
It is wonderful.

If I were to miss anything at all... it is definitely the manias.
I mean, come on... I was a god of sorts. When my mind was
revving, I could solve all the problems of the world (except my own).
I do not miss the dark side of mania though... nope, not one bit.
People in my life who loved and cared for me would become
exhausted as my energy was so high and I could think so
far beyond where they were at. Sigh.

At one point in my 'treatment', I asked the doc why he was
so concerned with controlling my manias as the depressions
were what was destroying my life.
His answer was that ppl tend to engage in dangerous ways while in mania.
Okay, I did have to give him that one.
However...
NO... I can out think and out do and the industry just wants
me obedient, they can't have folks who can actually think.

Healing my body and becoming healthy has since been my quest.
Doing so clean and without toxins is my choice of 'drug' now.
I still use cannabis but much less of it these days and... drink
some coffee but hey... no one's perfect ;)

First thing I needed to do was to remove all toxins and
that included the toxic ppl in my life, first and foremost.
Wow, what a revelation that the people in my life were
trying to keep me 'sick', hold me back. eff em.

There was a time when I was embarrassed to admit
to being Bi Polar, felt shamed that I was 'broken'.
I no longer care what other's think.

This is my story, it is who I am and what I went through;
primarily due to misunderstanding and a system designed
to keep us on their medications tit by blaming us for being
broken/ sick/ crazy.

I am and never have been any of those labels.

Never have I been happier, healthier and full of genuine
energy in my entire life and...
I finally love and accept myself, warts and all.

I'll never go back to eating the SAD and all the toxins
those same industries tell us are safe and healthy.
Nope, again... eff em.
OH... and F*ck Bill Gates that crazy MF'r.

This is my life and I am out of their reach/ control.

:trampoline: :smoke out:
Inspirational :huggy:
 
Top