Hands Free outdoor grows!

[badmf]

My friend you are in the U.K.where it rains frequently; not arid places like out West in Ole U.S..
Mulch is used in combination with this method. You see it does'nt rain for months on end here (so far this season 2 3/4", about 83% under average!)Plus summer temps over 95 and 100+ on occasion. Would you rather hike in "every" week in the heat and leave a trail and take more risk? I thought not

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

badmf, are you saying you are getting 4 or 5 pounds per plot, or per plant? I'm dying to know, I am myself trying to figure out how much water to store, but I want to compare your gallons to Ounces ratio to what I have figured from my outdoor experience.

 

[OutdoorGrower]

Well Mr. Backcountry, I think your answer lies within the thread! hah check it.

Heres the early shots of an outdoor spot.



Hovah:so you veg to 2.5ft then, for full season grow you place them in 13 gallon containers and this is the crop you get a pound per plant.. 2nd. Q. on what day do you plan on starting your seasonal grow, im guessing between May1 & June 10... Thanks again


Badmf: I hope to get more than a pound, but I'm always optimistic! lol I am thinking April maybe the 20th? lol





Im saying 3-5 lbs per plot like that. But prob 10-18 oz a plant

 

[badmf]

BC; I get that per plant with certain strains, of course some are crappy yielders but the quality weighs in. I give them the same care I would if they were in my backyard. A great amount of water is needed, plus all the care in maintaining proper ph/ppms etc. I use 50 gallons per plant twice a season, but since I went to larger containers and more poly I hope to reduce that significantly. My thought is to give it all it wants rather than just enough to survive. I put them out in March and LST ha ha ha sounds funny when its a tree eventually, but camoed and growing sideways they get much more Sun than growing vert. Plus much easier to work on and slice!
Outdr;please camo your line and cans much better! I know if you did no one could see the plants, lol. I just looked at my ole pix, ha ha same thing! I spend a couple days camoing so you can't see anything. Lets me sleep at nite. I am filling the rez this week and I will post some pix in the thread. Check out Tom Hills backyard pix meantime, I believe he got 5-7 pounds per!!!!

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

OK, OK, I took another look through and picked up a bit more of the info I was looking for.

I was looking for this info because I was trying to see how much of your experience I can apply to my situation.

I was first curious about your quote in the Gasoline powered pump thread"(click on this link)

I use 64-76 gallons of water per plant per season. And I add 2 1/2 g every trip there to adjust my auto timers.

At the time that seemed like alot of water to me, by my figures I use 25-30 gallons per season for my hand watered guerilla, my plants usually only yield between 2.5-4 OZ.

I'm still not sure what your average yield is per plant(but I have a feeling it is at least double or quadruple what I yield per plant),but I just noticed that you mention you are in "SoCal" twice in your second post of the thread. Being that far south would explain the difference in water storage needs betwen us, seeing how I am about 800 miles north of you.

I usually plant in late April or early May, and due to my spring rainfall, I rarely give water before the 4th of July. My shorter dry season explains much of the difference in water needs.
By my figures, in my climate, a plant recieving only 6-7 hours of sunshine per day, will yield around 2-3 oz with 30 gallons of water.
A plant recieving 8 hours minimum of uninterupted sunshine, would require at least 40 gallons, 50 gallons being optimal.

I am hoping using a system like these will give me more options for places to plant, and allow me to maximize my sunshine potential. I am hoping to raise my average from 3oz per plant to 5-7oz, a matter of fact I am hoping to get something aproaching 1 pound eventually.

 

[OutdoorGrower]

Badmf: Yea that outdoor season really was a learning experience, the plants originated in the ground, but after being chomped by the deer, i had to get them the best light i could. I never thought about camoing my line, im surprised you even picked that out.

 

[badmf]

I am now using some green plastic chicken wire(its not wire) lol, fencing from HD, 13 bucks for 25 feet long at three feet high. You may wonder why I would use only 3 foot fencing? Well I couldn't find any 4', thats green, and I came up with a way to prevent at least deer eating, by adjusting the height to match what a deers head is and stringing some fishing line (invisible to deer, really freaks 'em out!). This of course leaves some open area at the bottom but I'm betting deer aren't into bending down to get under it! I will use coat hangers to prevent that, (just in case) one end in the ground the other sharpened pointed out. I don't worry so much about ground based creatures as the cans are 30" off the surface. but since I still have green chicken wire,(yes, real wire, lol!) I have made large cages to surround the first 2-3 feet above the cans. Then I will create something as they grow sideways.
On water usage, I used to use much less but watched a guy water his in the bkyd and saw I needed to increase to max the grow. He grew some 18 footers, much too large for a bkyd! He buildt a fence 20 high, really! He didn't know about bending them obviously!
My worrys are late season mold. I've tried Serenade but I think there is a better solution. Maybe whole milk at 20% water spray and I chatted with someone who used aspirin, any thoughts?

 

[Deft]

Your grow style sounds a lot like what I want to do once I can establish a few more permanent sites way out in the woods with my garmin and chainsaw.

Do you have to fel any trees to get deecent light? I shure do, its completly overgrown everywhere and the forest regenerates fast as its mostly fast growing tree types, they suck up allmost all of the usable light within just a few years.

 

[Gantz]

falling trees is not always a good idea. the noise always attracts people and the clearing will be visible from the air. and after some time the plants will grow like crazy to reconquer the place.
tree growing would be am idea...but climbing up a tree with a few pounds of dirt in a day and then with a few gallons of water every few days is not my idea of a fun grow.

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

Hello, I'm BACKCOUNTRY the invisable boy. Why don't you wanna talk shop with me badmf?

 

[Deft]

falling trees is not always a good idea. the noise always attracts people and the clearing will be visible from the air. and after some time the plants will grow like crazy to reconquer the place.
tree growing would be am idea...but climbing up a tree with a few pounds of dirt in a day and then with a few gallons of water every few days is not my idea of a fun grow.

Its the only option for me, and its very remote so no one can hear and I've never seen an aircraft lower than 20,000' or so and have lived in the area my whole life. Its very safe and I am environmentaly friendly and not clearing much, just a few choice trees to get sun in.

 

[Gantz]

then bring a chainsaw

 

[Deft]

I have a 22" and 5 new filters.

 

[badmf]

BC; Talk shop? always! 24/7 ! Looks to me like you should give yourself credit already, imo you only need to tweak it a lil to pass your expectations! A lot depends on a strains yeild, getting the right one dialed in makes the difference. Have you checked out Tom Hill's grows? Nice job! Huge containers though, too large for me to haul that much soil up-hill, lol. We'll see what this season brings. I have a few complications taking me away for 15 weeks, this is a real concern. Do I set the timers for later larger growth or in the middle? Life's a bit@#, most likely I'll have to fly back out to re-set 'em. As this is a work related trip I will try to compromise the settings. Not the best of worlds but better than no crop! Peace!

 

[badmf]

I'd love to upload some pix but need a re-fresher I have a new camera source in my phone 2mpixels I forgot the digi, so can anyone advise? Thanks in advance

 

[badmf]

I dug up this thread as some folks are still in the dark about ez outdoor grows.
Now that 32 gallon cans are containers, bitch draggin' em in, lol, but they are in, polymer, ferts and water ready for late season harvest. goin' in tomm. c-ya when I get back.

 

[badmf]

Well I changed up a bit due to expected dry conditions this coming summer and have 5-32g rez per 3-32g containers, added more polymer and TP,EC,myc, l.bac. and have compost started in each container. By the seasons start this should make great soil additions. This may not be for everyone but for a lot of you it is. Peace! Badmf...

 

[PHB]

Badmf,
How much yield do you pull from the updated setup?

PHB

 

[badmf]

Yeild is dependent on several variables;
Strain, (og's and lesser yeilders of course are lower)
Size, of start (trying for min 12-16"ers)
Sun, exposure (10 hrs+best)
Nutes, strength and type(using organics but I hit em with bud enhancers late season)
Date, when you start em,March may be too soon we'll see!
This year will have at least three crops, two(spring/fall) in the original 3g's. (Since they won't be there but 60 days average no sweat.) The big boyz will go full season from March til finish.(If you do numbers, consider different strains so harvest isn't "all at one time"!!)
To more accurately answer your Q, LOL, I average 3-6#'s if all goes well, some less and of course is strain dependent. These grow horizontal. This years may be less as new strains are going in. A lot OG dominant.
Some older M's will go in the spring round, but are a pain to bring in safely! Tons of fallen folliage to go under/over while trying not to break em. I also am adding way more polymer and have no idea what that will do. If it goes well,much less water usage and better growth too.
I have a unique problem that mid-season re-filling is during fire quarantine so if I can avoid that it's better!! I will need a refill before Summers end its timing it. Always weather is the ultimate factor that decides these things. Check out Dakota Alert though, it gives some reassurance that no one is coming from where you put them!!
I still have emptys to fill and level, compost to make, fresh camo, trail blockers to add, check out flow rates and leaks. But after that it's just fill time and transplant em!! I may do a grow diary but I keep losing my cameras lol.
Peace! Badmf...

 

[Swordfish13]

Impressive numbers you have there badmf. You've given me alot of ideas for how I can do my irrigation this year. Stay safe, and keep up the good work.