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HAARP Engineering 'FRANKENSTORM' Hurricane Sandy - CAUGHT on SATELLITE and RADAR!!! ‏

SilverSurfer_OG

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He said he could do all of that with cloud seeding.

Exactly and that was the 60's.... what can we do with our toys now?

We wont know for sure until its declassified in 25, 50, 75 or 100 years time!

But we can make educated guess's and listen to retired experts.

:tiphat:
 

juggo

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Excellant read,thanks for sharing.This is all very relevent,we must continue to take notes. Fuck all.

peace,
juggo
 

HempKat

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Dr Livingstone is the whistleblower!

He says we have the power to create, destory, move, weaken and strengthen hurricanes!!! He just cant get into specific details.

I feel like i'm explaining television to a caveman. Yes we beam all kinds of things around with precision and 100% accuracy. Yes aluminium and barium aerosol is a force multiplier for electromagnetic energy. This actually mimics nature's cosmic rays:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray#Role_in_climate_change

This is also why the climate change models the "scientists" cling to for every bullshit prediction they make are fundamentally flawed...

Have you guys researched Tesla and his work regarding the ionosphere? It is critical to understanding this technology.

Huh? Wait a second. Just a few posts back you were saying Dr. Livingstone wouldn't say anything that could get him busted as a traitor and now you're saying he is? Come on now, you can't have it both ways.
 

HempKat

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If HARP didn't have anything to hide then why can't anyone interview them or get into the buildings? It's one thing to say we are doing no wrong here it's a whole other ball game when there is not FULL DISCLOSER! lol Unfortunately we are a pretty easy race to fuck with headband 707:comfort:

It's called a restricted base. People can get in there but not just anyone. Same is true of most Government bases. Just because not any old average joe citizen can go into a place doesn't mean there's some evil government plot going on.
 

HempKat

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Yeah i think HAARP (Alaska) open days is kinda like being given a look around a WW1 biplane and expected to think its the cutting edge. Like i said Tesla was behind this. Its actually technology from the early 20th century...

Hypersonic (rail guns), electromagnetic and plasma based weaponry is the new big thing.

Just have a look around their official websites: This is where we are at...

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/products/modeling.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/03/us_plasma_weapon/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/15/blitzer_trials/

Official web sites? Man you sure like to twist things. Okay you got one official site, Lockheed Martin with all this seemingly scary vague nanotechnology stuff that's supposed to do all this amazing stuff. When you read it though all they're saying is that they're developing the environment for others to develope nanotechnology in. Plus it's not actually a sinister secret thing if they're talking about it on thier website.

The other two though are just a news reporting of in one case plans to develope something and in the other they're talking about something currently in developement. A news story hardly qualifies as an official site of the people developing the weapons in question. Plus again the fact that it's reported by the media via a web site that doesn't fit the mold of being some sinister secret plot. :rolleyes:
 

HempKat

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Its hard to fathom as first we (the people) must lose the bonds and shackles the relentless propaganda have wrapped around most peoples brains. That is in no way meant as in insult it is just the reality we face. Decades of dumbing down have worked, especially in the USA and UK... yes i have been there :D

Luckily lots of people are also more individualistic in nature and the propaganda is much less effective.

The sleeping monster that is mankind is waking up slowly but surely.

9/11 just made people wake up faster and was a wake up call to many in the US military also...

Lets hope there is a peaceful coup and a return to constitutional and natural law as the other option is a full blown civil war. Which would be very messy indeed.

I think now that it's more then 10 years later and the people in charge during 9/11 are no longer in charge and key top level military and intelligence leaders are enbroiled in scandle, any coup, peaceful or otherwise, is very unlikely.
 

HempKat

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O yeah and dont forget the mass medication of society as another tool of societal control. Aldous Huxley was pretty spot on in Brave New World, but then he was an insider...

http://globalistagenda.org/technologyMore.htm

Y'all looking forward to your microchip implant? It for your own good of course...

The mass medication of society is a captialist driven byproduct of our style of medical practice which is to treat the symptoms rather then prevent the problem from happening. It's much less profitable to actually cure people.
 

HempKat

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Exactly and that was the 60's.... what can we do with our toys now?

We wont know for sure until its declassified in 25, 50, 75 or 100 years time!

But we can make educated guess's and listen to retired experts.

:tiphat:

To what end? getting yourself all worked up over and maybe scared of something that may or may not actually exist?

Why not just watch football and make educated quesses about how the game will go while listening to retired football players (experts)? It's much more fun then arguing with people over the internet.
 

Suspect

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It's called a restricted base. People can get in there but not just anyone. Same is true of most Government bases. Just because not any old average joe citizen can go into a place doesn't mean there's some evil government plot going on.

It's actually a shadow government that we're talking about, lots of good people outside this group.
 
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dramamine

The mass medication of society is a captialist driven byproduct of our style of medical practice which is to treat the symptoms rather then prevent the problem from happening. It's much less profitable to actually cure people.

"Our style"? Who you talking about? Yeah, trauma medicine is what's practiced, and yes it's about dollars. You do know where the massive funding for drug research come from,though....taxpayers, by way of "our" reps in govt. Ralph Nader used to talk about it a lot. Then we come out our pockets to get drugged up....for our health.
So is that just harmless capitalism, or is it a path we are being led down through fear and collusion?
You're pretty happy-go-lucky with the status quo, huh?
 

headband 707

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To what end? getting yourself all worked up over and maybe scared of something that may or may not actually exist?

Why not just watch football and make educated quesses about how the game will go while listening to retired football players (experts)? It's much more fun then arguing with people over the internet.

LOL the Gov counts on ppl that think like you but that doesn't work for me:tiphat: stay safe headband 707
 

trichrider

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United States patent #4,686,605 'Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth's Atmosphere, Ionosphere and/or Magnetosphere' is one of the 12 HAARP patents.



Dr. Eastlund is credited as the inventor. It states, "Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns or altering solar absorption patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device."

I know that quote on the surface looks like a connection between HAARP and chemtrails, but, before we think we have the smoking gun, realize that they are probably talking about particles precipitated from the ionosphere forming a lens without the need of chemtrails; as outlined elsewhere in the patent.



The good news is, the patent goes on:

Also as alluded to earlier, molecular modifications of the atmosphere can take place so that positive environmental effects can be achieved. Besides actually changing the molecular composition of an atmospheric region, a particular molecule or molecules can be chosen for increased presence.



For example, ozone, nitrogen, etc. concentrations in the atmosphere could be artificially increased.



Similarly, environmental enhancement could be achieved by causing the breakup of various chemical entities such as carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, nitrous oxides, and the like. Transportation of entities can also be realized when advantage is taken of the drag effects caused by regions of the atmosphere moving up along diverging field lines.



Small micron sized particles can be then transported, and, under certain circumstances and with the availability of sufficient energy, larger particles or objects could be similarly affected.

That, my friends is a smoking gun.



They are talking about introducing small particles into the atmosphere and then using HAARP to move them and the matter around them for the purpose of weather modification.

HAARP can be used in conjunction with chemtrails in order to modify the weather.



Disbursed metallic particles such as,

aluminum

barium

strontium,

...(the main chemtrail ingredients) may increase the atmosphere's conductivity and therefore enhance HAARP's weather modification performance.

A grand history of releasing stuff into the atmosphere as part of scientific research exists.

In the early 1960s our U.S. military dumped 350,000 2-4cm copper needles into the ionosphere attempting to create a 'telecommunications shield.'

The HAARP executive summary says:

DOD [Department of Defense] agencies already have on-going efforts in the broad area of active ionospheric experiments, including ionospheric enhancements. These include both space and ground based approaches.



The space-based efforts include chemical releases (e.g., the Air Force's Brazilian Ionospheric Modification Experiment, BIME; the Navy's RED AIR program; and multi-agency participation in the Combined Release and Radiation Effects Satellite, CERES).

Patent #4,686,605's description states,

"It has also been proposed to release large clouds of barium in the magnetosphere so that photoionization will increase the cold plasma density, thereby producing electron precipitation through enhanced whistler-mode interaction."

Barium is the second most common chemtrail ingredient.

These chemical releases are not all necessarily chemtrails, but they show our military's extensive atmospheric chemical release activities involving ground and space based monitoring and support.

Lastly, let us refer again to Angels Don't Play this HAARP:

...there is a super-powerful electrical connection between the ionosphere and the part of the atmosphere where our weather comes onstage, the lower atmosphere. Furthermore, scientific theories describe how the electrical energetic levels of the atmosphere are connected to cloud processes.

Chemtrails may enhance this connection between the lower and upper atmosphere.



Then, when HAARP manipulates the ionosphere, the lower areas of the atmosphere (where our weather happens) can be manipulated accordingly.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_chemtrails43.htm

my emphasis added...
 

unspoken

Member
We've already been through the patents man, go back and read the thread. Yeah, congrats, your spouting the starting point of all of this, which is basically meaningless. Haarp patents. Give me a break.
 

trichrider

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http://www.boeing.com/Features/2012/10/bds_champ_10_22_12.html



CHAMP - lights out

By Randy Jackson


AFRL image

This artist's rendering shows a CHAMP flying over a target

A recent weapons flight test in the Utah desert may change future warfare after the missile successfully defeated electronic targets with little to no collateral damage.

Boeing and the U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) Directed Energy Directorate, Kirtland Air Force Base, N.M., successfully tested the Counter-electronics High-powered Microwave Advanced Missile Project (CHAMP) during a flight over the Utah Test and Training Range.

CHAMP, which renders electronic targets useless, is a non-kinetic alternative to traditional explosive weapons that use the energy of motion to defeat a target.


AFRL

Power is cut to a room of computers after being hit by a high-powered microwave pulse from a Counter-electronics High-powered Advanced Missile Project.

During the test, the CHAMP missile navigated a pre-programmed flight plan and emitted bursts of high-powered energy, effectively knocking out the target's data and electronic subsystems. CHAMP allows for selective high-frequency radio wave strikes against numerous targets during a single mission.

"This technology marks a new era in modern-day warfare," said Keith Coleman, CHAMP program manager for Boeing Phantom Works. "In the near future, this technology may be used to render an enemy’s electronic and data systems useless even before the first troops or aircraft arrive."
 

SilverSurfer_OG

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Huh? Wait a second. Just a few posts back you were saying Dr. Livingstone wouldn't say anything that could get him busted as a traitor and now you're saying he is? Come on now, you can't have it both ways.

Yeah who's twisting words?

Like all people who signed official secrets acts or the like, they respect that or end up dead or in jail. He cant get into specifics about classified projects. He is still speaking out and therefore qualifies as a whistleblower. He was the top expert and is the father of weather weapons but is now retired. So he has very relevant information that should be taken into account. Would he have access to any new classified operations/technologies? No.

We all should know black budgets and programm
mes exist. This isnt conspiracy theory it is just a fact. The actual budget is secret (duh) but is quoted as between a minimum of $50 billions per annum to perhaps $1.1 trillion.

We can be assured they have moved beyond bullets and even stealth bombers... so what are they testing out now?

We do know they are developing the cutting edge systems and openly discuss nanotech and all the rest i mentioned. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out.

We know historically as i proved all kinds of biological, chemical and experimental weaponry has been tested out on our own peoples.

Yes i linked to only one major "defense" contractor. They are developing these weapons systems and a quick look around their website confirms this. Same deal with the other ones. If you are genuinely interested you can take a look yourself.

“I don't know how man will fight World War III, but I do know how they will fight World War IV with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein
 

baittis

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I see some bad effects of indoctrination.

Btw, FOX has expanded its grip on peoples sleep by starting to broadcast in Finland too.
Shit, man. TV was full 'o bullshit before. Now there's nothing else.
 

HempKat

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It's actually a shadow government that we're talking about, lots of good people outside this group.

Define shadow government? There are aspects of our government that due to the potential impact of full transparency to the people at large just isn't logical or smart. Not because there is an evil plot afoot but because you can't trust just everyone that is a US citizen. Their are plenty of citizens that immigrated here, passed the citizenship test, became citizens but still have loyalties to the country they came from. So being that transparent would be like saying "here you go enemies of the US here's all our secrets and how we try to protect ourselves from you.

Now if by Shadow Government you mean some hidden element working only in it's interests even at the risk of endangerment to the citizens then you got to prove that exists before you can really talk about it as anything other then pure fantasy and speculation. Just because it makes sense to you doesn't make it real.
 

HempKat

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"Our style"? Who you talking about? Yeah, trauma medicine is what's practiced, and yes it's about dollars. You do know where the massive funding for drug research come from,though....taxpayers, by way of "our" reps in govt. Ralph Nader used to talk about it a lot. Then we come out our pockets to get drugged up....for our health.
So is that just harmless capitalism, or is it a path we are being led down through fear and collusion?
You're pretty happy-go-lucky with the status quo, huh?

By our style I'm talking conventional western medicine. The statement I responded to implied that the government tricked people into becoming overmedicated to better control them. I'm saying no, it comes from capitalism seeking to find ways to make more and more money off of people. Sure they manipulate government by playing on ploitician's greed but that doesn't make it a government conspiracy to control the masses.

Obviously I'm not happy with the status quo or else I wouldn't be a member of this site and find ways to take care of my own health outside the system of the status quo as best I can by growing my own medicine.

Just because I don't buy into you view of the world doesn't mean I'm happy with the status quo. It just means I think you're view is pure fantasy based on thoughts generated by your own psyche. If a guy looks at a person and starts thinking of all the horrible things that person could possibly do to someone else based only on a superficial knowledge of that person then who is the one with the problem? The person only being speculated as being a bad person or the person going to the trouble of thinking of all the horrible things someone might do?
 

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