I had been doing 3x a day feeding each time but cut back to only 2x a day and I think it's about the same growth wise
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H3ad goes Coco
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lysol
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look into deep water culture, lysol...
no such thing as too much water only too little oxygen...
I seen no need to water more than two or 3 times per day, they are not going to be using up O2 any faster... A friend that was running flood and drain with coco was doing three a day and everything came out nicely...
no such thing as too much water only too little oxygen...
I seen no need to water more than two or 3 times per day, they are not going to be using up O2 any faster... A friend that was running flood and drain with coco was doing three a day and everything came out nicely...
Hey H3ad,
Just wondering your method of seed starting? Gonna try some Coco this week for the first time...Im a DWC man, but wanna try coco. Thanks!!
Just wondering your method of seed starting? Gonna try some Coco this week for the first time...Im a DWC man, but wanna try coco. Thanks!!
I soak the seeds in h2o until they sink, then put then into styrofoam egg carton cells full of moist coco and as soon as they break ground I put them as close to the fluoros as I can without feeling heat. I like the styrofoam egg carton cells because they root up fast and prevent any water stress issues, and I feel like I'm recycling something, plus they reflect light well. as soon as they start growing regular leaves and being fed normal strength nute, I move them into small solo cups.
Do you poke holes in the egg cartons? Do you pretreat your coco with nutes or just h2o? Just wondering how you feed them and when. Thanks!
one or two pinholes on the side close to the bottom.
coco hydrated with nute.
water with ph adjusted tap until seed leaves begin to lighten and regular leaves begin to form, then a couple of 1/2 str feedings then once real leaves are growing transplant and feed regularly.
correct my math here, but .6 EC = 300 ppm tap water?
if so, that's your culprit. you got some nasty water and it probably has either a hardener or softener in it!
Flush w/RO.....
If you use the 500 conversion your math is right. I know it´s pretty hard water, but when I used soil and flushed with tap water, everything burned clean. But maybe things go different for soil?!
Next time I´m going to flush with straight RO for three weeks and I´m going to use Alg-A-Mic only during veg. stage. Hopefully that will do the trick!
So do you guys suggest to flush with ph´d or un-ph´d water?
Peace
Ace
Hi H3ad !!
Great thread, and much apreciated info on the knowhow on your coco methods.
I have been reading this whole thread. Just noticed someone asking for your input on ratios using the european hardwater micro and bloom. You have stated 7m/12b .. well this should also be considering the calcium in the given "tap" water, or? if so I have a question for you.
In these ratios the Calcium is very low, at about 23 or 30 ppm. I am using my local tap water which states it has 47mg/l of calcium, and 6.1mg/l magnesium. I personally am having problems in how i should adjust these ratios to get the correct nutrient profile, if i still need to add cal mag and what not to add. I would really appreciate your help on this. i know its asking a lot of your busy schedule but im just not understanding the cation exchange properly and want to avoid slowing or diminishing my end results. If my local store had the regular micro I would have gotten it but since we supposedly have hardwater they only sell the hardwater micro. As to my local water analysis, it says I have a water hardness of 1.42 mmol/l .. Im currently pretty clueless.
Again thanks for your time -E-
Great thread, and much apreciated info on the knowhow on your coco methods.
I have been reading this whole thread. Just noticed someone asking for your input on ratios using the european hardwater micro and bloom. You have stated 7m/12b .. well this should also be considering the calcium in the given "tap" water, or? if so I have a question for you.
In these ratios the Calcium is very low, at about 23 or 30 ppm. I am using my local tap water which states it has 47mg/l of calcium, and 6.1mg/l magnesium. I personally am having problems in how i should adjust these ratios to get the correct nutrient profile, if i still need to add cal mag and what not to add. I would really appreciate your help on this. i know its asking a lot of your busy schedule but im just not understanding the cation exchange properly and want to avoid slowing or diminishing my end results. If my local store had the regular micro I would have gotten it but since we supposedly have hardwater they only sell the hardwater micro. As to my local water analysis, it says I have a water hardness of 1.42 mmol/l .. Im currently pretty clueless.
Again thanks for your time -E-
Hey Head my buddy runs RW cubes on cubes and swears by flushing every 7-10 days to get the best club quality cannabis. I know you run your nutes so low you say that the flush at the end is all that is needed which I tend to trust your advice a lil more being a successful breeder and a coco guru around here. He also suggested that I flush with a really low nutrient solution which I noticed so does the Cutting Edge Solutions chart and the mix for coco they recommend is 5ml Micro 15ml Bloom for full flower. So I guess my question is whats up with the low nute solution flush? My buddy also swears by all those stupid flushing agents like clearex ect so does the low mix act like one of these and do better than tap ph'd to 6.0 with some ProZyme then plain water for the last 2 days before they sit in the dark for 2 days?
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lysol
I switched to coco because DWC gave me root rot despite keeping temps like 65F.
Thanks for the answer though. I like to over-love my plants and if watering 3x daily doesn't hurt them its good to know.
I was more concerned about other effects then depletion of o2, like if too much water could throw off other factors.
Thanks anyways though
So I'm probably right about there not being much a diff between me doing 3x a day opposed to the 2x a day I am doing now? I had noticed that when I did it 2x a day that the first watering in the morning the pots were a lot lighter than when I did 3x a day which gave me the feeling more O2 was getting to the roots? I noticed a lil more bright white roots with the 2x a day also like it gave them more time to grow roots to search for water? Just trying to become a expert with coco since I think it's better than any other medium being the best of both worlds!
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lysol
According to Jorge Cervantes flushing with a low nute solution removes MORE salt then plain water alone can. It also prevents from starving the plant
Thanks for the advice! Will give a couple a try. Have a 400 Watt HPS in a DR80 tent...and a 250hps in a DR60. Also have a lil veg cabinet, that has CFL's. How long do you usually keep under flouro's? The HPS lights can take them ASAP, what is too soon?
Started a few in perlite, double cup method...took 3 days to be above ground with zero presoak. Gonna transplant them to DWC when ready. But want to do a couple hand water Coco also...who knows I may like Coco so much I switch? Any specific brand of Coco you prefer? Thanks again for the help, much appreciated!
Thanks that's exactly what he told me today when I asked why he said that lol so I'm gonna give it a go and do it for 5 days and then go with plain water for the last 2
Hi H3ad,
I have been doing some math, trying to get a grasp of this nutrient profiling.
I am mixing per 2liters of water, im adding 2ml of sensical, 2ml of micro and 5 ml of bloom.
The ratios I have come up with, i believe they are correct, are ...
N - 98
P - 76
k - 108
mg - 50
s - 56
ca - 87
my water has 47mg/l of calcium and 6.1 of magnesium.
Once you get the chance i would like your input on this matter if possible.
Thanks in Advance, -E-
I have been doing some math, trying to get a grasp of this nutrient profiling.
I am mixing per 2liters of water, im adding 2ml of sensical, 2ml of micro and 5 ml of bloom.
The ratios I have come up with, i believe they are correct, are ...
N - 98
P - 76
k - 108
mg - 50
s - 56
ca - 87
my water has 47mg/l of calcium and 6.1 of magnesium.
Once you get the chance i would like your input on this matter if possible.
Thanks in Advance, -E-
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YosemiteSam
Was your friend running 6/9? I have been afraid to pull that trigger on flood/drain although I have gone to 8/12 (maintaining your ratio at least) with good success. I have also run a couple of plants separately, hand watered with 6/9...no question 6/9 tastes better. Debating whether to go to drip dtw with 6/9 or commit and give 6/9 a shot in flood/drain...guess if I see deficiencies I can up the feed although my experience is that once you see the problem it has already affected your final yield.
Only problem I have had with multiple feeds per day has been that the fight with fungus gnats seems to increase exponentially with the number of feeds per day.
Anyways...thanks for your patience with this thread and all of the great info. Looking forward to running Casey with your formula once the beans hit the market.
backintheriver
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how tall do you veg your plants before flowering them? i also have 1 and 3 gallon pots.
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how tall do you veg your plants before flowering them? i also have 1 and 3 gallon pots.
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DonkDBZ
H3ad question for ya. Mag and sulfer past week 4 or 5 how important? After running my H3ad ratio semi-organic test. I have a new test I wanna try.
After week 4 when I drop micro wanna test
9ml GH bloom vs 6ml Botanicare Hydroplex (might need 5 or 6 ml of sweet given answer) vs 9ml GH bloom and gravity at week 5
Hydroplex has bunch of extras vs GH bloom and price tag to match 25 bucks quart vs 12 for GH
6 ml hydroplex w/ 5ml sweets gives 78P 89K 31MG 42S
9 ml GH bloom 60P 91K 41MG 27S
Also noticed 8ml of hydroplex would give
104P 118K 12MG 17S which is basically rezes koolbloom slam which is
11N 104P123K 5MG
What do you think?
Only have 6 Jock Horrors this run to work think 2 contol ( gh bloom) 2 hydroplex and 2 (gh bloom w/gravity at week 5)
Oh yeah got the Tom Hill cut of your Casey Jones any tips or input?
After week 4 when I drop micro wanna test
9ml GH bloom vs 6ml Botanicare Hydroplex (might need 5 or 6 ml of sweet given answer) vs 9ml GH bloom and gravity at week 5
Hydroplex has bunch of extras vs GH bloom and price tag to match 25 bucks quart vs 12 for GH
6 ml hydroplex w/ 5ml sweets gives 78P 89K 31MG 42S
9 ml GH bloom 60P 91K 41MG 27S
Also noticed 8ml of hydroplex would give
104P 118K 12MG 17S which is basically rezes koolbloom slam which is
11N 104P123K 5MG
What do you think?
Only have 6 Jock Horrors this run to work think 2 contol ( gh bloom) 2 hydroplex and 2 (gh bloom w/gravity at week 5)
Oh yeah got the Tom Hill cut of your Casey Jones any tips or input?
