Guerilla Underground Thread

[Bud Green]

Well, we're more than halfway there! Just a little over 2 months left until my normal harvest dates...

A few of my girls are extremely sativa like, and have been flowering since the end of June...
Here's one of 'em.. She's really starting to smell awesome.
Her middle cola is 9 feet tall... and she's still stretching! Should be full of electric sativa buds by October!

Second pic is one of the "fatties". She is more of a sativa hybrid...
For reference, the tree stump is 18" thick, and above my knees..
She is starting to form tons of little buds and is just beginning to stretch!

I'm still putting down fresh mulch every 3 weeks or so, and watching the worms eat it up, as it slowly decays.
I just top dress with used coffee grounds, some Epsom salt for Mg., ground up eggshells, some cottonseed meal and others.
Will be starting with a bit of powdered bone meal sprinkled on top within the next few days...
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[master kusher]

I went out to check the plot today 3 are over my head one being 10-12 ft tall and hasn't even really started to flower yet. Another 2 are 5-6 ft tall and bushy and the 4 I planted look about 5-6 ft tall and bushy except some are droopy because I transplanted poorly and broke up the root ball a little. (I love the idea of numbers)

 

[~star~crash~]

Well, we're more than halfway there! Just a little over 2 months left until my normal harvest dates...

A few of my girls are extremely sativa like, and have been flowering since the end of June...
Here's one of 'em.. She's really starting to smell awesome.
Her middle cola is 9 feet tall... and she's still stretching! Should be full of electric sativa buds by October!

Second pic is one of the "fatties". She is more of a sativa hybrid...
For reference, the tree stump is 18" thick, and above my knees..
She is starting to form tons of little buds and is just beginning to stretch!

I'm still putting down fresh mulch every 3 weeks or so, and watching the worms eat it up, as it slowly decays.
I just top dress with used coffee grounds, some Epsom salt for Mg., ground up eggshells, some cottonseed meal and others.
Will be starting with a bit of powdered bone meal sprinkled on top within the next few days...
..

they look well developed Bud Green Sr! you’re way a head of me here in the northeast...mine's going to be a race against time for finish...i'm hoping for good flower development across the board by early October...fingers crossed

 

[wildkender]

as you go North the flowering starts later, right?

 

[metsäkana]

as you go north they need to start flower faster lol or maybe same time but more north you go more daylight hours you have

in north the season ends more early so you cant use regular photoperioid strains

just photosensitive or autoflower strains

 

[wildkender]

yes I know it. they need early strains.

 

[wildkender]

any useful trick to make them flowering earlier?

I feed some clones outdoors with flowering nutes (10-20-20) in veg at this year, I hope they will start to flowering 1-2 weeks earlier than with high nitrogen feeding.

 

[metsäkana]

root space could be your best option put then in containers that they grow full before start of august, i think that could stress it to push flowers sooner..

i think its not sure it will start to do that if you dont know the strain

im pretty sure that fertilizer have nothing to do with even some say it helps.. ofcourse plants grow more if they are provided all the possible nutrients but not too much or little but they dont start faster

otherwise you could autoflower everystrain with just some ''flower fertilizer'' lol

or do light depth greenhouse or use some kinds of bags.. i have not seen the bag system working

 

[wildkender]

root bounded plants yields much less and the quality also not the best on the plants what start to flower by stress.

lots of growers experienced that the flowering delay or longer when the soil is too rich in nitrogen.

 

[metsäkana]

maybe its just burning the plants with fertilizers so they stress and dont flower so good becouse root are burning from overdose.. just like if you give any fertilizer too much

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

any useful trick to make them flowering earlier?

I feed some clones outdoors with flowering nutes (10-20-20) in veg at this year, I hope they will start to flowering 1-2 weeks earlier than with high nitrogen feeding.

Light deprivation is the only thing thats ever worked for me.
I grow in 4-5 gallon containers outdoors and preventing getting seriously rootbound in pots that small is a challenge. I never had one flower early because it got to big for it's pot, they just start yellowing & dying from the base up & become more prone to having serious health problems.
It won't surprise me when someone develops a spray on hormonal application that forces flowering, seems like its something that should be pretty easy to manipulate. A reveg spray would be nice to have too.
I've also tried water starvation to force early flowering, no dice up that alley so far either.
Whatever the hormone is that induces fading of the fan leaves might be the one. A combo defoliant/flower forcing spray could be some real magic, spray it on and 8 weeks later you got trimmed buds on the vine ready to harvest.

 

[metsäkana]

do you use photosensitivestrains or autoflower genetics? pdx

i know autos will start flower is you cut the root or too small pot

we veg 20/4 photosensitive strains here and if you keep them on that cycle too long indoor in small spots they show sex and start to flower but if you put them outdoor they continue vegging

yeah autos dont go back

 

[wildkender]

better not to play with rootbound!

yea, autoflowers start to flower in small cups when they are very small. even if you transplant them to bigger pot, the yield will be much less than without rootbound stress.

photoperiod strains also will flower in small cups if you veg them too long indoors. at least most of them.

anyways its true that the plants in growbags will flower earlier outdoors than what you grow in the ground.

anyways if you feed them with flowering nutes in veg they will be less stretchy this is what I see.

 

[MountainBudz]

Here are some late season plants that will go in 10 and 15 gallon containers this year. I just put them out last night..

They are vegged in a one gallon container and i'm anxious to see if they will fill up that entire 10gal/15gal space or not. I am hoping they will explode and roots fill in.

Anyone else think they are still gonna get huge?

Guess we will find out soon!







Think these gals will fill in the 10 and 15 gallon containers? They have been on a 20/4 hour light cycle and things are beginning to flower around here anyway so I expect them to start flowering within 2 weeks, that Island Afghani especially because it has that 90 day semi-auto blood in it.

 

[MountainBudz]

Who says it's too late in the season to be planting? Haha... Not me.

 

[MountainBudz]

These plants in the photos went from 6 inch root bound seedlings that had been sitting in nursery trays for exactly a month, yes thats right, nursery trays. The little one inch wide by 2 inch deep cell flats. They were yellow and sickly looking, starting to flower due to stress. After a month of sitting I finally got around to transplanting them into 1 gallon containers and they went from that to this in a little over 2 weeks. Never seen anything like it, so I can confirm with proper care that the root bound stunts growth is a myth and is far from correct.

All I gave them was earth juice sea blast and sea weed juice from a buddy up north in Maine. They freaking love it. I have never once seen anything that compares to sea weed juice in my entire life, shit is like steroids.

Where they had started to flower in the trays, before transplanting and spent a month outdoors in those little nursery flats, once I transplanted to one gallon and threw under 20/4 hour lighting they showed signs of reveg, quickly. The island afghanis mainly, the poison warps never really got into flower. But the reveg made them grow extremely bushy, this is aka "Monster Cropping". It is a very good technique to get bushy plants without physical training and pruning.

 

[Ibechillin]

I have transplanted 1ft tall blue dream clones vegged in 3" square pots late in the outdoor season into 7 gallon pots organic soil with 30% perlite, they were fully rooted nearing rootbound in 3 weeks.

I only know the roots filled in that much because my cousin's wife had an episode of paranoia and killed them lol i saw when i pulled them up.

Growing in coco the saying goes "rootbound and ready to rock", thats when they really explode with growth doing multiple feedings daily.

Cannabis seems to love fish, probably because of all the trace amounts of nutrients the sea provides. Seaweed literally is steroids for plants it has lots of plant growth regulators/hormones like auxins, cytokinins, and gibberellins.

 

['Boogieman']

These plants in the photos went from 6 inch root bound seedlings that had been sitting in nursery trays for exactly a month, yes thats right, nursery trays. The little one inch wide by 2 inch deep cell flats. They were yellow and sickly looking, starting to flower due to stress. After a month of sitting I finally got around to transplanting them into 1 gallon containers and they went from that to this in a little over 2 weeks. Never seen anything like it, so I can confirm with proper care that the root bound stunts growth is a myth and is far from correct.

All I gave them was earth juice sea blast and sea weed juice from a buddy up north in Maine. They freaking love it. I have never once seen anything that compares to sea weed juice in my entire life, shit is like steroids.

Where they had started to flower in the trays, before transplanting and spent a month outdoors in those little nursery flats, once I transplanted to one gallon and threw under 20/4 hour lighting they showed signs of reveg, quickly. The island afghanis mainly, the poison warps never really got into flower. But the reveg made them grow extremely bushy, this is aka "Monster Cropping". It is a very good technique to get bushy plants without physical training and pruning.

I think they will filling those pots just fineand I agree with the seaweed juice. I add kelp to my soil in April and make homemade kelp foliar spray with kelp meal and fulvic acids (bioag) to especially be used during the stretch phase.

 

[master kusher]

Here are some late season plants that will go in 10 and 15 gallon containers this year. I just put them out last night..

They are vegged in a one gallon container and i'm anxious to see if they will fill up that entire 10gal/15gal space or not. I am hoping they will explode and roots fill in.

Anyone else think they are still gonna get huge?

Guess we will find out soon!



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Think these gals will fill in the 10 and 15 gallon containers? They have been on a 20/4 hour light cycle and things are beginning to flower around here anyway so I expect them to start flowering within 2 weeks, that Island Afghani especially because it has that 90 day semi-auto blood in it.

Plant them in the ground.(imo) then you will get that explosion of growth you're looking for, but as far as getting them their steathily. IDK

 

[MountainBudz]

Plant them in the ground.(imo) then you will get that explosion of growth you're looking for, but as far as getting them their steathily. IDK

I always have better explosive growth in large containers, always. Different people have different results i'm sure but the containers are a light airy mix and very very well controlled. They do extremely well if done right. I know you can get bigger plants in the ground in "most" instances, but they get as big as I need them to be in containers.

And as for stealth, they way I guerilla grow in containers will definitely be way stealthier than the ground. I know this may sound incorrect or wrong, but trust me, you can't even tell they are there and you can blend them in way better than digging, and they are about 50% more blended in with the environment and camo'd than the ground.

I will just have to post and show you some pics because I know it sounds too good to be true, but it is.