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Growing Organics living soil, Sativa/Narrow leaf dominant pheno selection, phenotypic expression.

BC LONE WOLF

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I’m looking forward to grow some herb as well.

Duterte sadly I don’t have more seeds but I was smart enough to send a dozen seeds out to a fellow wolf in USA and UK. The possibility of doing a seed increase is still viable, and maybe urgent.
I have pollen from last years male, maybe not viable anymore I will find out.
The good thing is 2024 Duterte was crossed with Ace Chiang Mai and SMG colombia so we locked him down with some already great genetics. Plus Im pulling out all the crosses made from 2022 and 2023 Duterte males. Time to see how the progeny looks and acts like.
From what I seen in previous grows, the male is really intense and dominant.
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Meanwhile what I left in the pots before leaving to Thailand, well all dead but the Chiang Mai is looking like she alive and trying hard to survive. It’s impressive to even see green and alive foliage. This is a nonintervention test so all I can do is watch them survive or die.
Already this is a positive result, they survived January and February on their own.

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A week later;

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No intervention. All I could do and did was a watering with my over the winter green manure tea;

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Days are getting warmer and all she needs is to keep one node healthy.
 

BC LONE WOLF

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Living soil, and layered. Saw huge success last season using hay and then dumping the organic matter on top. I grew tomato’s and companion pants last year and this season I will plant some phenos in this bed see how they turn out. I’m working on a cheap hoop house that I will eventually be tarpping for light dep. elbow grease
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Meanwhile inside the warm light

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BC LONE WOLF

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I was running out of space so made this arrangement since I don’t need the head room, flipped the new tent @Mars Hydro Led and made it into a small nursery.
I didn’t get the sprout count I wanted, so I will go for a second round while these get to veg.
13/11 photoperiod
full spectrum at the lowest intensity
Having them here for the next 4 weeks

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BC LONE WOLF

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Solid lineup bro! Excited to see the Panama Red and SMG this year.
Is the Honduras from ACE?

Yeah bro Ace Honduras, I might have to put another 2 since they not sprouting.

I also got something from our corner coming up, lots of vigor, check the tap root lol

Yowie x dutertes 2024
Sparkelicious BD pheno X dutertes 2024


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SMG colombia x dutertes
Chiang Mai pearl pheno x dutertes

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bangi Haze X Malawi seems like 4 sprouted
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Fun times
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BC LONE WOLF

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Almost week has passed;

It’s still winter here, snow at the peak. But the low lands have almost no snow and good temperatures. The rain hasn’t been terrible.

This is my method of selection, I’m looking for endurance and adaptability, resilience and strength, also narrow leaf beasts.
I started early this year because of my plan to light dep around summer solstice.

From top to bottom:
6 Yowie x Dutertes2023
5 Sparkelicious BDpheno x Dutertes2024
5 SMGColombia X Dutertes2024
3 Chiang Mai pearl pheno x Dutertes2024
2 Band Aid Haze (white buffalo)
1 DART 3/4 haze (white buffalo)
2 Panama Red 1960 peace corps (swami)
1 SMGColombia (swami)
2 Chiang Mai green pheno X Dutertes2024
4 Bangi Haze X Malawi (Thanks brother)
1 Jamaican Irie x Dutertes2023

I might push another round of sprouting, Im missing a couple lines I really want to see. 15 mins straight out “plein air” and first watering using my green manure compost tea.

Inside the tent 15celcius with a drop to 10 at night, 60-70 RH.

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BC LONE WOLF

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Wow, am surprised "they can work with that"! Some serious stress testing mate 😳

Thanks for taking us along for the ride. Good luck!

Yeah I’m pushing my luck but this is their home and they need to really get their shit together it’s gonna feel like this exact moment later in October.
I see some purple hues on some, and the green phenos should stay green no matter what.

I had some that didn’t make it, c’est la vie.

The main reason I do this is because some lines are done under controlled environments indoor and I have the certainty that perfect conditions tend to weaken genetics and the farther they are taken up the filial line the weaker they become. I give them a chance to fight for their life and build up immunity.

A couple more weeks of this and they should be well rooted and hungry.

Cheers mate
 

BC LONE WOLF

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Nice to see some good cotelydon pictures to compare, the panama looks very sativa with good amplitude, good looking soil BTW.

Nice to hear you appreciate the little details like cotyledon , I do too. They tell the early story of what’s to come, lots of information on them first leaves.

I wanna bounce some questions of you as I know you have the knowledge there, interesting remark on the Panama red I see them some what rounder cotyledon on them (I would think it’s a normal trait of Central American sativas).
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Then they pump out some very narrow leaf and will structure themselves with tighter nodes than the avg Sativa Dom or Landrace.

I see purple hues on that Panama and next to it is the Swami SMG colombia very narrow leaf and green pale which I like the green on the Colombian.

What’s your thoughts on the Central American sativas?
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Thanks for the soil remark, I used the recipe of the starter mix used by the neighbour farm for their veggies (wife works there, good access to supplies).
Once the seedlings are able to handle the living soil they will get a totally different mix.
 

Verdant Whisperer

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Nice to hear you appreciate the little details like cotyledon , I do too. They tell the early story of what’s to come, lots of information on them first leaves.

I wanna bounce some questions of you as I know you have the knowledge there, interesting remark on the Panama red I see them some what rounder cotyledon on them (I would think it’s a normal trait of Central American sativas).
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Then they pump out some very narrow leaf and will structure themselves with tighter nodes than the avg Sativa Dom or Landrace.

I see purple hues on that Panama and next to it is the Swami SMG colombia very narrow leaf and green pale which I like the green on the Colombian.

What’s your thoughts on the Central American sativas?
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Thanks for the soil remark, I used the recipe of the starter mix used by the neighbour farm for their veggies (wife works there, good access to supplies).
Once the seedlings are able to handle the living soil they will get a totally different mix.
The soil is like a stomach for the plants try not to switch up seedling mix to grow mix too much, i try an have it as a toned down version of the normal mix with less perilite and rocks so it stays moist and smaller i grind the perilite up for my seedling mix, the Panama looks like a nice smoke its not intense looking as some africans based on its cotelydons and first leaves, but looks like it has moderate potency with narrow leaf gibberalin dominance and decent amplitude so itll start broad and end up skinnier like your saying but nothing too extreme. Central american sativas from what ive grown one line im not sure which country its from but i got it here locally in costa rica, it had some variation in the line Broad and narrow leaf, they are bushy with good spacing but also huge big fan leaves to help absorb sun in the undercanopy of the jungles. there different than the full sun grown mexican genetics ive smoked, they are alot cleaner, and less dopamine driven. the first time i smoked a sample of this line i was confused because i didn't feel high it was so clean. but the effects where certainly there, the line i grew and sampled recently is 3rd generation shade and high humidty grown in tropics and without testing based on effects i am saying it has elevated levels of CBC which is an antifungal adaption not seen in modern growing, there is something special about jungle weed from central america in my opinion it has the cleanest highs i've ever experienced, but its the jungle grown, not the full sun open field phenotypes, those favor thc for the uv-b resistance and need less cbc because the sun and good airflow limits fungal infections.
 

Verdant Whisperer

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The soil is like a stomach for the plants try not to switch up seedling mix to grow mix too much, i try an have it as a toned down version of the normal mix with less perilite and rocks so it stays moist and smaller i grind the perilite up for my seedling mix, the Panama looks like a nice smoke its not intense looking as some africans based on its cotelydons and first leaves, but looks like it has moderate potency with narrow leaf gibberalin dominance and decent amplitude so itll start broad and end up skinnier like your saying but nothing too extreme. Central american sativas from what ive grown one line im not sure which country its from but i got it here locally in costa rica, it had some variation in the line Broad and narrow leaf, they are bushy with good spacing but also huge big fan leaves to help absorb sun in the undercanopy of the jungles. there different than the full sun grown mexican genetics ive smoked, they are alot cleaner, and less dopamine driven. the first time i smoked a sample of this line i was confused because i didn't feel high it was so clean. but the effects where certainly there, the line i grew and sampled recently is 3rd generation shade and high humidty grown in tropics and without testing based on effects i am saying it has elevated levels of CBC which is an antifungal adaption not seen in modern growing, there is something special about jungle weed from central america in my opinion it has the cleanest highs i've ever experienced, but its the jungle grown, not the full sun open field phenotypes, those favor thc for the uv-b resistance and need less cbc because the sun and good airflow limits fungal infections.
PS i dont presoak my seeds in hydrogen peroxide and dont use inert start soils i've had better success letting the plants that have good immune system and are apt for my soils microbiome sprout the ones that don
t sprout in my opinion dont belong in my grow. i try and train my plants to be efficient with their soil and active from the time their planted.
 

BC LONE WOLF

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Nice bro 👌 got a lot of shit going on. Respect!

yeah homie I gotta get some numbers going to end up with some fire (hopefully). I got enough to work with and some might not make it.

Should be a fun season, lots of variants. If there is space for a cross to happen I wanna take it outside of my main grow as I want to make some flower. Love making seeds but craving the flower this year.

How them Thai X Filipino coming along bro?
 

GainesvilleGreen

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yeah homie I gotta get some numbers going to end up with some fire (hopefully). I got enough to work with and some might not make it.

Should be a fun season, lots of variants. If there is space for a cross to happen I wanna take it outside of my main grow as I want to make some flower. Love making seeds but craving the flower this year.

How them Thai X Filipino coming along bro?
Going good bro 👍 💯
Just gave them their first feed of Maxi 250 ppms at 6.0 pH.
Let them dry out and should turn a better color.
Happy weekend bro.
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