grow room design help

[CharacterZero]

i plan on vegging for about a month or so. it will be a cycle from veg to flower every 2 months.

i am dead set on a 1k.

ill move on to a mh for veg soon. but for now i can only afford to use t5's. with mixed warm/cool tubes.

its not gonna be a huge deal is it?

 

[Amstel Light]

your plants may stress out if you take them from veg with t5's to flower with a 1k.

i recommend using a 600w to ease the transition or keep them in veg and let them get threw the stress before flipping to flower

dont give him more shit to worrie about lol...just keep the 1k a lil further till they hardden. that martha thing is fuqin awsome !
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6464578

 

[CharacterZero]

nice i think im gonna try to just scrub the room then.. and always keep my air conditioner on in the room.. exhuast the tents into the room and the light into the attic.

which would be sucking air out of the room and into the attic as well.

or maybe just scrub the attic?

cause my light exhuast mite pull some air out of the room that hasn't been scrubbed yet into the attic and leak odor.

if i pull air from the room through the light.

 

[CharacterZero]

lol just get a few of these http://fungifarmer.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=16

 

[Amstel Light]

nice i think im gonna try to just scrub the room then.. and always keep my air conditioner on in the room.. exhuast the tents into the room and the light into the attic.

which would be sucking air out of the room and into the attic as well.

or maybe just scrub the attic?

cause my light exhuast mite pull some air out of the room that hasn't been scrubbed yet into the attic and leak odor.

if i pull air from the room through the light.

are you tripping right now??!!! dont scrub the fuqin attic man just cool the lights... blow the exhaust back into room thats how i would do it for 1k if it were more i would pull air from atic cool light and remove back to attic...are you running this op during the day?

like i said i used a bathroom vent to cool a 400 50-80cfm 3-5 inches away from bulb cool tube was cool to the touch....i used no a/c i can only grow in the winter just sealed room and ac/heater vent and let nature cool it down...i was determined to pull a crop since my hometown got blown away and had no connections... it was getto as hell but pulled out8-9ounces .....if i can do it with the little i had then you should do ok starting with 3,000....

 

[CharacterZero]

just trying to make sure i get it right. if i wasn't investing so much into it i wouldn't care as much. but 3k is a lot to throw down and not do it right you know?.

most likely during the night

and i wouldn't want to suck in the hot air from the attic that i just blew in there

i made a few illustrations in paint.. ill post them in a few when im done and i would like to hear everyone's opinion on which would be best

 

[Amstel Light]

and i wouldn't want to suck in the hot air from the attic that i just blew in there

why not if the light/tent is cool?do you have a window unit? whats the btu's?put your tents near the unit and have the ducting taped to the a/c let it cool your lights ....it will still be a little cool... exhaust it to your room.........hope growing caps are not as hard you might be giving me a hard time a 6" vortex is a whopping 449 cfms you could prolly cool 3 1k's with that given the ducting was not to far apart......

 

[CharacterZero]

well for me growing mush is easy i been doing it for a few years. its hard at first but if you listen to people with lots of experience you do well. if you want to really grow mush then email me like i said and i will get you started. the cheap and simple way. shroomery i dont like much. i have better resources. for $100 you can grow lots of caps.

but no matter what sometimes you just cant stop the trich. you can minimize it by staying clean but especially during winter months you can get a little frustrated. its just sterilizing things properly and cleaning. provide the mushroom with proper invironment and they will do there thing.

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ANYWAYS.. back to my grow room design. here is pics:
which design would be best...

 

[Amstel Light]

EACH ONE OF THEse you are pulling cold air out of your room..why?

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

Hey

I have read your thread. 2?s
1. Are your tents, or the flower tent at least, confirmed and tested to be 100% light tight no leaks period?
2. Would it be simpler to exhaust the whole room thru the ac light, so for example, 6inch can fan just outside the flower tent,ducted directly to the attic straight into the carbon. The tent has passive, or active intake, you have your ac hood leave the one end open let it exhaust your tent, room .

As for the veg tent, just circulate air thru it, and the air in the room w/ the ac (that is awesome) will make it's way into the flower tent and get scrubbed.


BUT that is if you do/can keep the veg area/tent in the same room w/ the flower tent.
my first major mistake ever was assuming my tent was light tight, it was not. eventually the room the tent was in was 100% light tght. i choose to veg in another seperate room. actually, a closet, under 2 wally world floros that's it, no tent nothing, no fans filters etc... simple as can be. mum aand seeds and clones. check my album, nursery area, give you an idea, doesn't take much to veg seeds clones mums. work'd 4 me.

 

[CharacterZero]

you cant blow hot air back into the same room especially with a 1k light. i mean you mite be able to but i just dont see how it is a good idea.

it is actually a dumb idea so it is probly best to suck the air for the light out of a different room. or even outside. to suck it out of the attic it would be to hot. heat rises and plus hot air will be going into there.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

well for me growing mush is easy i been doing it for a few years. its hard at first but if you listen to people with lots of experience you do well. if you want to really grow mush then email me like i said and i will get you started. the cheap and simple way. shroomery i dont like much. i have better resources. for $100 you can grow lots of caps.

but no matter what sometimes you just cant stop the trich. you can minimize it by staying clean but especially during winter months you can get a little frustrated. its just sterilizing things properly and cleaning. provide the mushroom with proper invironment and they will do there thing.

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ANYWAYS.. back to my grow room design. here is pics:
which design would be best...

i think you are over complicating this.

 

[CharacterZero]

thanks for the post!

that is a great idea. i wont know if its light proof until i get it i guess. it is good name brand.. secret jardin dark room 150 so it should be good. if not ill move it to another room.

but yeah i could just put the carbon scrubber at the end of the light exhaust

like.. tent > ducting > ac hood 1000k light > ducting >tent > ducting to attic > vortex 6 > carbon scruber in attic..

but can that scrubber handle that vortex 6?

is that what you are saying?

 

[CharacterZero]

the only reason i am making this so complicated is i just want to buy the right shit man. and get it all done right. i dont want to have to make an extra purchase and worry about shipping that too. this is it so it has to be right and it has to work.

i feel like im getting somewhere, though.

would 200cfm be enough to cool that 1k light? if so i could just get the can 33 filter/fan combo pack.

or really i could just put the scrubber on the veg tent and scrub all the air in the room that way.

or even just on the flowering tent.

it would scrub the room now that i think about it. no need for one on the veg tent.

 

[Amstel Light]

i think you are over complicating this.

WOW ME AND YOU AGREE ON SOMETHING!!!
i drew you a picture but cant upload it...
your not blowing hot air back into your room your blowing air that just cooled your light/tents into your room u see the fucking huge ass fan your getting cools things ....

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

you cant blow hot air back into the same room especially with a 1k light. i mean you mite be able to but i just dont see how it is a good idea.

it is actually a dumb idea so it is probly best to suck the air for the light out of a different room. or even outside. to suck it out of the attic it would be to hot. heat rises and plus hot air will be going into there.

no no no, thats not what i am sayn

2 tents,

veg tent, blow the reg room air n and out of it, no filter, just exhaust it at whatever rate

flower tent,
intake is bringing in the air from the room, which has the circulated veg tent air w it, your ac hood in the tent also doubles as the exhaust forthe room as well as the tent, run duct from the other end of your light to the port on the outside of the tent, your 6inch canis connected to the flower tent and it is going str8 to the ceiling where the filter is sittint inside the attic. All the air must go through the filtr thats the last stop.

be sure to have neg pressure for the room! 24/7 means even when te light is off, can fan is still movng that air and scrubbng, neg pressure mean no smell sneaking out te room


hoe that helps/ makes sense?

 

[CharacterZero]

yeah man that makes perfect sense. would the 270 cfm 6inch can fan keep that light cool, though?

i doubt my ac blows more than 100cfm's anyways. so negative pressure shouldn't be a problem unless i leave the door wide open.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

the only reason i am making this so complicated is i just want to buy the right shit man. and get it all done right. i dont want to have to make an extra purchase and worry about shipping that too. this is it so it has to be right and it has to work.

I totally understand.

WOW ME AND YOU AGREE ON SOMETHING!!!
i drew you a picture but cant upload it...
your not blowing hot air back into your room your blowing air that just cooled your light/tents into your room u see the fucking huge ass fan your getting cools things ....

lol
don't tell anyne can we can we keep it beween just us 3 lol!

 

[apartmentblower]

did you realize that if you just put your carbon filter on recirculate outside the tent, your air cooled light would draw stinky air that the carbon filter hasn't scrubbed yet out of the room and into your attic and outside??? just do it that way, a carbon filter is a couple hundred bucks for a good canfilter. they are worth it.


i honestly think you could save a shit ton of headache by just running your setup like this:

carbon filter----> air cooled light ---> appropriate cfm fan in attic sucking it all out

two carbon filters, two fans, two tents

with the fan in the attic, you can get something a bit more powerful and not worry about noise cause its in the attic

your air conditioner will make everything doubly easier. im running a room with 2 600's sucked through a bigass carbon filter on 6" ducting pulled out by a 8" fan and 8->6 reducer and it works just fine

 

[CharacterZero]

dude reading the rest of this thread is making my head hurt. just buy 2 carbon filters, one for each tent, and then exhaust your tents thru them and into the attic. same with the lights but without carbon filters because they are seperated from your tents air....

by the way, did you ever realize that if you just put your carbon filter on recirculate outside the tent, your air cooled light would draw stinky air that the carbon filter hasn't scrubbed yet out of the room and into your attic and outside??? just do it that way, a carbon filter is a couple hundred bucks for a good canfilter. they are worth it.


i honestly think you could save a shit ton of headache by just running your setup like this:

carbon filter----> air cooled light ---> appropriate cfm fan in attic sucking it all out

two carbon filters, two fans, two tents

sorry man i dont like this design. i am not gonna exhuast my tent through my 1k light. i have been told not to do that by a good friend of mine. he said it would be okay with a 400 or maybe even a 600.

and yes i already did realize a flaw in that design and had moved on from that design a few post back.