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noreason

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Three more Agent Orange phenotypes. I'm giving them few more days to ripe under a small fluo panel (100W).

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CalMag

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Hi nore, i use to grow with 2 hps and 1 mh in the middle, i have noticed that the plants under the mh do have better smell under flowering and the trichs are most oily, so by touching the leaves it smells pungent and the trichs are more sticky.. i'm interested to know how it will go for you by using hps and fluo in the last days! It could improve the smell because of development of new small thrichs and the lower temperatures could preserve the terpenes, maybe?

Beautiful plants and work!

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noreason

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Hi nore, i use to grow with 2 hps and 1 mh in the middle, i have noticed that the plants under the mh do have better smell under flowering and the trichs are most oily, so by touching the leaves it smells pungent and the trichs are more sticky.. i'm interested to know how it will go for you by using hps and fluo in the last days! It could improve the smell because of development of new small thrichs and the lower temperatures could preserve the terpenes, maybe?

Beautiful plants and work!

:wave:


Yo bro, I don't know. MH are pretty nice for flowering, but yield less compared to HPS or fluo.
I have done some testing in the past using HPS vs MH with the same clones, but in the aroma side, they're pretty the same. I didn't notice appreciable difference.
This time, with these Agent Orange, the last three plants out of 10, I have no reference to compare. It's a first time grow, so I really can't tell anything ;)

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Grow The World

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Hi guys, during the 90's in holland I saw many grow room, they alls got 1mh every 4 hps,
but I have never heard of differences of flavour or terpens, but only more yield
 

CalMag

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It probably helps to structurate the buds better, but ITS not the mh himself to grow big buds but the "every 4 hps 1mh" will give great results also without the mh.. If we have the opportunity to run at least 4 lamps in flowering to maximaze the covering and penetretion for better yield and uniformity of flowers then hps is the Rule.

From the '90 to today, we have seen a lot of experiments side-by-side demostrating that MHsolo produce less flowers in yield than HPSsolo.

But i'm still on My side thinking that mh is a good lamp, but the lamps require bigger lamps in terms of power to let plants deveolop bigger flowers.

If i don't take it wrong, a mh run hotter than a hps of the same wattage, wasting more power. So i'm not saying that the spectrum is wrong, just we need to pay more bills to get the same results of hps..

After this, i think that those AO will be pleasured to receive an other spectrum mantaining a cooler temp in late flo.. maybe If the plants had the fluo for a couple of weeks, then the colors too would be more pronunced, but this last thing is just IMO..
 
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noreason

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Hi guys, during the 90's in holland I saw many grow room, they alls got 1mh every 4 hps,
but I have never heard of differences of flavour or terpens, but only more yield

:yes:
That's right and a good thing IMHO. Having a different spectrum will help plants to develop better and it is indeed possible to gain some weight overall, but I'm not sure, never really did a comparision test, however I tried it in the past one MH along 3 HPS and it was pretty good, but nothing really to tell about

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It probably helps to structurate the buds better, but ITS not the mh himself to grow big buds but the "every 4 hps 1mh" will give great results also without the mh.. If we have the opportunity to run at least 4 lamps in flowering to maximaze the covering and penetretion for better yield and uniformity of flowers then hps is the Rule.

From the '90 to today, we have seen a lot of experiments side-by-side demostrating that MHsolo produce less flowers in yield than HPSsolo.

But i'm still on My side thinking that mh is a good lamp, but the lamps require bigger lamps in terms of power to let plants deveolop bigger flowers.

If i don't take it wrong, a mh run hotter than a hps of the same wattage, wasting more power. So i'm not saying that the spectrum is wrong, just we need to pay more bills to get the same results of hps..

After this, i think that those AO will be pleasured to receive an other spectrum mantaining a cooler temp in late flo.. maybe If the plants had the fluo for a couple of weeks, then the colors too would be more pronunced, but this last thing is just IMO..

GTW has a lot of knowledge to share bro ;) and I think he's not wrong.
You're right on the ''efficiency'' side, but plants are living beings and a better spectrum could improve yield, along other things like flower's shape and density and who knows..maybe cannabinoids too.
For sure I can say HPS are quite enough to get some serious pot, there is no need to add MH. I'm now testing HPS 400 Volts from Lumatek and at now, plants seems a little happier compared to 220V HPS.
As a grower, without knowing anything about these lamps, I would say they give out less infrared radiation, avoiding or reducing photorespiration in the hot-spot area. Or at least this seems to me.
In few months I'll have more info about.


Last three Agent Orange

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the pen

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Ouch... these flowers under T5 neon lamps.
You should organize an Intensive growing course for next time I will meet you.
 

noreason

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Yo the pen :wave: Those plants were grown under HPS for 59days...then they was moved in the small tent, just to let 'em ripe a little more ;)
 

noreason

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4 Agent Orange just moved in the hydro system from the X-stream cloner where they was vegging under few W of fluo light (the one on the left now almost empty)

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Lamps are 1x600W Nanolux ballast and 1x660W Lumatek ballast. Both are Silvanya Groxpress HPS and both are Adjust a wing (don't know wich models). At now they're under 400W MH lamp.

Never tried to use so many W in this space, I think they will perform very good...will see soon.

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indabonga

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Ciao nore, per coprire il vassoio nei negozi di materiale plastico trovi i fogli di cartone plastico: son fatti come il cartone ma son di plastica...lo stesso materiale che usano per sostenere i dischetti di neoprene e vasetti negli aerocloner per intenderci...
 

noreason

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Belle piante bro... A che giorno di flo sei? Ti manca molto ancora?
BUON CULTIVO

Le AO sono state già tagliate ;)

Ciao nore, per coprire il vassoio nei negozi di materiale plastico trovi i fogli di cartone plastico: son fatti come il cartone ma son di plastica...lo stesso materiale che usano per sostenere i dischetti di neoprene e vasetti negli aerocloner per intenderci...

Grazie man :) Comunque ci avevo pensato già, soluzione fattibile ma mi viene più scomodo, perchè oltre a coprire il vassoio mi serve di coprire i vasi, altrimenti oltre a beccarsi il calore ci crescono le alghe. Poi si sporca anche durante il ciclo e va lavato o comprato nuovo e tagliato di nuovo.

Poi in realtà anche se brutto da vedere l'alluminio funziona bene e ormai ci metto 10 minuti per coprire tutto, molto rapido ed efficace. A fine ciclo lo tiro via in un attimo e butto tutto.

Forse in futuro proverò ad usare una rete da scrog e/o un fondo di una grow (quelli che vendono come ricambi) per facilitare la copertura, ma forse no perchè appunto mi trovo abbastanza bene così ;)

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noreason

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Yo guys, some new pics to share here.

As posted before I use various X-stream cloners, both for rooting cuts and let 'em veg till the final transplant to the hydro system, in wich they will flower.

Here part of the vegging rooms

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I'm using 2x55W PL fluo panel here. In the first layer I keep moms, dads and clones waiting to be selected.

In the second layer I keep rooting cuts. They got not so much light but it's pretty enough for rooting.
The bigger X-stream (40places) is used for rooting.
The small one (20 places) is used for vegging.

Both of them are best used at half-load to gain space.

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Under the dome some clones already rooted but with not eoungh roots to live at open air. Some more days under the dome to let roots develop a little and it's done.

And here some dabbing

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indabonga

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Hey nore!udon't cut in the cuts the spike's of the leafs 4 a better transpiration?
Sorry 4 the bad english mate :)
 

noreason

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ChocoTonic at 10 days from the switch

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I'm using an ISOMAX 150mm extractor fan and it's awesome. Really low noise and 3 speed settings.

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Y connection to the main duct line

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noreason

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A dried Agent Orange bud.

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PCK-Tonic (PCK x ChocoTonic)
I just love this cross I made some years ago. Really dank phenotypes with a strong aroma. The keeper is a lemon/dieselish one, really strong, with a lot of thick glands.

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And some purged BHO made out of a Critical. Really strong effect and a nice skunky aroma.

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