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Competition GROW CONTEST WINNER: Noreason gardens

noreason

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thanks a lot for the info bro! :huggg: nice advices...
You're welcome.

letting some water flow in the tray is a normal growing habit i have... ;) i will look into RO filters, but i may go for the hard water ferts... since they're easy to find, i wanted to use canna coco a+b (they have them at the local growshop - 5 min from my house :D),
Well, I'm not sure but I think it would be a better choice to buy HYDRO fertilizers, not for coco.
You have enough calcium and magnesium in the tap water, and coco fertilizers should contain more Ca and Mg than hydro ones. Again, I'm not 100% sure about this, you should read the values on the label.


do you think i'm gonna have hard time using them with such an high ec? thanks a lot man! :tiphat: ever lasting congratulations for your amazing works.
I think yes. Maybe it's not the better option however.

let us know if and when you're releasing some beans
The next ones are the CT S1. Still don't know when.


ciao! EDIT: i found some not so expensive RO solutions that may fit my case... this way is definetely the best and easiest way, you're right. do you think also my organic soil plant would benefit from RO water? thanks... a milion times!
Maybe lowering the starting ec would benefit in general. This way you avoid to accumulate calcium in the medium.

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baroudeurdu30

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i want it..
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The.Cook

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thanks a lot for the info bro! :huggg: nice advices... letting some water flow in the tray is a normal growing habit i have... i will look into RO filters, but i may go for the hard water ferts... since they're easy to find, i wanted to use canna coco a+b (they have them at the local growshop - 5 min from my house :D), do you think i'm gonna have hard time using them with such an high ec? thanks a lot man! :tiphat: ever lasting congratulations for your amazing works. let us know if and when you're releasing some beans :) ciao! EDIT: i found some not so expensive RO solutions that may fit my case... this way is definetely the best and easiest way, you're right. do you think also my organic soil plant would benefit from RO water? thanks... a milion times!

Hi bro!

Had some issues with very hard tap water too.

mine comes out witch an EC of about 750/800uS/cm and more than 100/110ppm of calcium (lot of Mg too).

Gratest problem is in long cycles with rich soils and large pots, where its difficult to have enough run-off without overwatering. In that situation, you can have a very fast salt build up in the substrate.

For example, I had some serious problem in 18lt pots with with Plagron Batmix (quite rich), with unexplainable curling leaf, dryng and yellowing from the borders and tips just like a burn. It took a bit to understand that it was just the hard water.

The problem was obvious once the plant was cut: the lower layer of expanded clay was completely coated in salts, like it was dipped in seawater and than dryed. You can imagine what kind of salt built up there was in the soil itself...

The reason of all this I think it's mainly up to the excess of calcium and at the same time it's low solubility. Expecially with not-very-acidic soils (batmix buffer pH at about 7), it's hardly washed away with irrigation, and it soon raises EC in the substrate over the limit, making it difficult for the plant to absorb the other nutrient and at last causing her to dehydrate.

Maybe in Coco the problem will be less evident thanks to the greater need of calcium and magnesium; and for sure easier to manage seen the greater ease of flushing when compared to soil.

Anyway, RO is you best bet, just make sure to raise the starting EC a little bit by adding tap water to prevent Ca/Mg deficiencies, especially in coco.

Out there on the bay you can find some 100gpd 3 or 4 stage ro system for less than 100$. if I were in your shoes I'd make a tought about it...

Good luck with that! :tiphat:
 

Chunkypigs

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how did I miss this thread? amazing flowers! looks like pm spots starting i the previous pic maybe...
 

noreason

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how did I miss this thread? amazing flowers! looks like pm spots starting i the previous pic maybe...

What a nice eye bro :) I know what you're referring to. However it's not mold, I'm experimenting a product and that plant was in the test batch. The darkening leaf you can see is a result of this testing. I can't say anymore at now, maybe in the future.

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noreason

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ChocoTonic F1 at 43 days 12\12.

Unfortunately many branches and colas started to collapse under their own weight before I did something for it, so for my lazyness I had to tie them with some platic line after I found them drooped. A couple of hours of work I could have saved working better.

However I see really nice flowers, it will be a great smelly harvest.

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noreason

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I often use sunglasses with blue lens to compensate HPS light spectrum and have a much real view of the plants. I use them especially to spot any deficiency that's not clearly visible without.

They works great to find mold spots and male flowers.

Mold spots are not so easy to find in early stage but the classic browning leaf that sprouts from the larger buds is the target to find.

Male flowers (bananas) are easy to find because of their yellow color, being highlighted from the sunglasses.

Some pictures to let you understand better how they work

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The.Cook

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Wow! I've seen them in a growshop once, tought their were just a useless crappy gadget...

I've got to change my mind...

I often take out the plants to see them under natural light (thing that you obviously cant do :) )

If they doesn cost to much could be a good deal

Always usefull tips here!
 

noreason

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Wow! I've seen them in a growshop once, tought their were just a useless crappy gadget...

I've got to change my mind...

I often take out the plants to see them under natural light (thing that you obviously cant do :) )

If they doesn cost to much could be a good deal

Always usefull tips here!


I think I paid 15€.

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LyryC

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So much win in here!!!

Can't say enough good things no reason! :good:

Just keep doing what you are doing brother:joint:
 

noreason

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A little CT F1 ''dark'' clone stressed 15 days with light before harvest to see if the hermie side is strong or not. Fortunately I can barely see a couple of slow growing bananas.
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