GROW CONTEST WINNER: Chief Bigsmoke's Perpetual Groove and Nerdatorium

[BCMaster]

The Nerdatorium is about to get a little more techy...

We are welcoming a gift from Mrs. Chiefs father with open arms. An Apollo 20 a four foot 700w / 3w LED grow fixture. oh yea...

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Since it gets expensive providing free meds this will help boost some of our yields and take our grow to the next level... we just have to wait for our boat from asia.

very cool man! Cant wait to see how it works out for ya

 

[heady blunts]

whoa major win in the in-law lotto!

 

[TB Gardens]

Hey brother - just checkin in since I haven't been by in so long. Gotten pretty caught up in my gardens this summer, but every things ticking like clockwork now ;-)

So did you take the double stacked cool tube u made back apart? Cus there's two of em now, lol. Personally I think the double stacked is the way to go, you'll def be running more efficient and effectively than the 2 cool tubes in a row like that. When u think about it, wi them in a row your cutting down on light throw and overall numbers you could get in there. For a while I was pretty intent on building vertical light movers that would track up and down my aisles between plant rows. But after drawing it up and running some numbers it just wouldn't be worth it since the real advantage to vert is 360 lighting... If I had done it I would be only utilizing about half that since only 2 sides would remain a constant distance from plants, and the other 2 sides would be moot as they went up and down the aisles.

Everything looks great tho brotha. Congrats on the grow of the month win, congrats on the LED-in-law (lol), and you better get some side stabilizer skis for that electric bike soon lol!


TBG

 

[chief bigsmoke]

You're right on with that information TB. a 360 donut would be more beneficial... my dub tube will have to put back once I get my new LED. I was thinking of doing a donut for my tall and sexy sat doms and my indies could go under the LED where there the other tube is set up. etc.

I chose to dismantle the dub-tube for this cycle because I'm pushing out some smaller plants to get some meds to my lady asap. I would need 4-5 ft plants to take advantage of the dub-tube, which we can`t afford to wait for. Once the smoke clears from this cycle its on like donkey kong..

I love all your input, everyone


ps and skiis TB.. more like full sized snowboards...

 

[chief bigsmoke]

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[silver hawaiian]

Hmm. Shooting from the hip here - but TB is right, in that if you're doing a vert setup, you really oughtta surround the bulb (surroundsurround) with plants, to get your
money's worth.

If you're not into the veg time to end up with 4-5' plants, I'd say to use the two vert bulbs and do two donuts, side-by-side basically. But with the LED in the mix, .. I'm not terribly sure what to do with that.

I suppose you could hang it vertically also, and blast one side of one donut with it, .. ? Doesn't seem to be the most efficient use, but it's at least half-baked thought.

Or, hell, you could do two donuts in opposite corners, and in another corner, just do a plant or two or three under the LED itself. Might be kinda cool to see what the LED itself will produce for you, in re: the donuts. A little side-by-side sounds like it might fit well in a Nerdatorium.

 

[chief bigsmoke]

a good side by side would be perfect for the nerdatorium. I actually have a couple tests lined up. I`ll keep them secret for the time being.



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[TB Gardens]

What are the room dimensions & how many indi girls and how many sat girls?

 

[chief bigsmoke]

What are the room dimensions & how many indi girls and how many sat girls?

We have the freedom to design whatever we want in a 7x7x9 space.

This design is 4ft wide by 7ft long by 9ft high. Which is around 250 cubic ft.

Our license is for 20 plants. So I'll have 10 vegging and 10 flowering.

In the proposed drawing, I would have 6 sat ladies and 4 indie rockers. 3 sats on each side and the 4 indies in the middle.

 

[chief bigsmoke]

I could just do 2x donuts and instead of buying a flowering led. buy a bad ass vegging one. * we have flexibility in which model to buy

 

[Guest 150314]

id advise against putting those vert bulbs right up against the wall

 

[chief bigsmoke]

sounds good gm. planned "X"ed. This will be my last crazy idea... then I can stop wasting my time on other ideas and concentrate on the plants

 

[chief bigsmoke]

edit: I'll design something simple and just go with it. My current design seems to be working well though with 2x aircooled vert lights. I am holding an ideal temp of 22c-24.9c and my nighttime temp is 20c so for the first time ever since I began growing I finally have my temps perfectly within the "zone" without any air con. So I am relucant to change much right away.

I saw how well 2 vert bulbs worked for growers like Marlo and wanted to take advantage of some aircooling and do something similar. I know it wont be as efficient but I'm ok with that. I can easily make the gap between the bulbs longer and make 2x donuts... and when the LED is ordered I can maybe think about a dub-tube for the sats and a separate horizontal led for the indies. but thats enough for now... I'll try and find some interesting information to get this thread back on track.


current set-up idea w/ veg plants at the nearest side during the day. then the little ones go back into their lil' veg tent for the remainder of the day. Just need to veg the ladies wayy longer next round and add lots of reflective film...

some Silver Kushs stoked to be tall enough to soak in lots of the oncoming rays

If the plants don't like their new set-up then they can have some Yarrow/aloe vera tea to calm their nerves...

 

[Guest 150314]

I like the double doughnut set up, how much space do you have between the two tubes? would be cool to grow a monster sweet skunk in a 5 or 7 gallon between the bulbs.

Glad you got your thermoperiod under control.

 

[chief bigsmoke]

I can make the space as large as it needs to be. I do have an 8 gallon monster pot... the ideas are flowing in...

I'll just order a bad-ass veg LED and maybe some small ones for the flowering room, instead of the big 700w Apollo 20

 

[TB Gardens]

Brother if u can make the space as big as u want then get to work! Lol, space is so nice for so many reasons... Extra space in the room alone with help with heat issues. I think your spot on, keeping it simple and extending the distance between the tubes is the best idea. 2 donuts, and maybe some CFL's in the 2 dead spaces between circles and walls (backsides between the donuts). Ya and I'd prob get all the stretchy girls around one tube and the indicas around the other.

 

[chief bigsmoke]

set in stone... this is what I'll do... heheh I said stone

Maybe a small led above the dead space aka the soon to be home of a monster sweet skunk in a 8 gallon container...

 

[silver hawaiian]

That's the ticket - zacklee.

Double donut mcgillicutty with an LED for veg, or in a corner for added nerdatoriumocity.

TB - it's great to see you in here. And it kind of validates my being when a guy like you is more'n halfway on my page.

chief - thanks for having a killer thread in which to discuss and dissect this stuff.

 

[chief bigsmoke]

Room Design: "Finally feeling on track..."

Since we have chosen to set in stone the infinity pattern laid out with two donuts. I'll be skipping the huge led in trades for a cheaper option of two lights: A Veg and a small Bloom. even though its a gift we don't need to spend every penny. If we can make it 1/3 the cost than I guess it would be +rep from the pops' in law.

I've sent out for quotes for custom designed spectrum's on these units:

E-Shine: 48x 3w - Bridgelux Royal Blue 450 nm and 470nm (1:1) plus 2 UV diodes.

and...

E-Shine: 4G 24x 3w Grow - 660nm Deep Red Epistar, 640nm and 610 and 2 UV diodes


* These are not full spectrum because there will be supplemental light to fill in more of the "gaps" in the spectrum. I have experience with the 1st gen 1w ufos with non-canna plants so I have a small understanding of their current limitations and advantages.

 

[chief bigsmoke]

LIGHT SPECTRUMS AND ABSORBTION from Light Labratory Inc.

LIGHT SPECTRUMS AND ABSORBTION from Light Labratory Inc.

200-280nm UVC ultraviolet range, which is highly toxic and extremely harmful to plants.
280-315nm Includes harmful UVB ultraviolet light, which causes plant colors to fade.
315-380nm Range of UVA ultraviolet light that is neither harmful nor beneficial to plant growth.
380-400nm Start of visible light spectrum. Process of chlorophyll absorption begins. UV protected plastics ideally block out any light below this range.
400-520nm This range includes violet, blue, and green bands. Peak absorption by chlorophyll occurs, and a strong influence on photosynthesis (promotes vegetative growth.)
520-610nm This range includes the green, yellow, and orange bands and has less absorption by pigments.
610-720nm This is the red band. Large amounts of absorption by chlorophyll occur, and most significant influence on photosynthesis (promotes budding and flowering.)
720-1000nm There is little absorption by chlorophyll here. Flowering and germination is influenced. At the high end of the band is infrared, which is heat.
1000+ Totally infrared range. All energy absorbed at this point is converted to heat