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Griswald C-25 Barrage

hidingtree

Active member
dude i cant wait to see those fired up . lets seeyum ? looks awsome . good ideas with the c25 . saw one of those cabbies years ago where dude did a similar set up . but took 2 cabs and put em back 2 back to make a 4x2.5 area and did the light similarly ... that thing rocked .... so will yours ... yay !~manyblessings , hidingtree
 
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Guest

Sorry hidingtree. After big blue blew it again, I started binge drinking (not true, but I did get a bit blue and vaped my face with a few Yuenglings thrown in for contrast) and little else got done today. I should make a bit more progress tomorrow, as long as my day job doesn't impinge too agrestically, and I'll throw up some more pix. Thanks for stopping by and for the postive predictions. I also think things will go well (so far so good).

Cheers, SC
 
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Hello, IC.

First a few words about cleanup... It Sucks! I always make the wife do it whenever possible.

Okay, now that I've passed on my general wisdom for the day, back to the project...

Oh wait, before we get too serious, I need a Yuengling and some Jackie-O vape... be right back.

Ohhh, that is a bit better. Taking the edge of as it were...

So where were we? Oh yeah, cutting the holes into the back of each unit for the passive intake ducting and exhaust fan. Don't forget to measure carefully. This is the most important thing here. And remember, if you make a mistake, hope and pray for a graceful recovery.
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Be careful with the backs for these industrial grade wardrobes as they aren't as substantial as one might expect. They look like 1/8 inch cardboard to me.
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But with a little luck you'll have a 4 inch hole (below where the shelf will be) for the exhaust and a 12 inch hole for the intake about 4 inches off the floor, to prevent drainange from your plants from flooding shiz.
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I'll be adding a lip to the front of each cab and lining the floor with construction poly to act as a tray to catch runoff.

I went out and got my fans today. They're all the new Fantech plastic fans. They're crazy lightweight and I'm hoping for reduced vibrations (and noise) and heat. We'll see. Worst case they were a few bucks cheaper and just as good as the metal ones (same airflow rates).
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When you get them at a hvac warehouse like I did, they come unwired and you need to cord them yourself, a perfect job for a slightly stupid monkey. Seriously, this is very very easy stuff... utility knife, electrical tape, wire (18 gauge 2 conductor... read the package stupid), and a couple of do it yourself plugs from radio shack.
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Now before I do that, the last couple of cuts. First the hole for the 6" fan that will be exhausting the light.
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This should be cut in the last remaining left wall (they're different!). If you mess up like I did and put it in the last right wall, don't worry as the intake will be a bigger hole and no one will be the wiser (unless you tell them like silly me).

Don't forget to measure it to go above the shelf, for those of you with severe ADD (take yer meds!).
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And now the intake for said exhaust fan.
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As you can see, this will be your typical large hole, but due to the light leak issues, I've built an overhanging cover out of scrap to keep the light out.
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Now before you start praising my godlike reciprocating saw and dremel skills. I used a table saw
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Now when you look at this monstrosity, note one neat trick. I use duct tape to seal the seams (Screws will split your particle board like nothing and nails will slide out over time), and then I staple gun it on each side. Using duct tape and staples like this can hold up tremendous amounts of weight for tremendous amounts of time.

Next up, wiring the fans and assembling the cabs!
 

sugabear_II

Active member
Veteran
nice work wookie -

I replaced the cardboard backing that comes with the c-25 with 3/4" plywood and was happy I did as I mounted my fan directly to the wood. Do you plan on mounting the individual 4" exhaust fans to the shelf or something? If planning on mounting to the back then I'd be concerned about strength of the cardboard.

also wondering why not have one large fan pulling air out of all the chambers that way you can use a single scrubber?

-suga
 
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Guest

Hey Suga. Thanks for the feedback and questions. I feast on that shit like a junkyard dog!

The deal is this, I have an existing growroow with strong fresh air flow and filtered exhaust. I will have these three C-25's up against the interior wall of the room. The exhaust fans (and ducts for the passive intake) will be mounted in the wall of the growroom and make use of the existing ventilation, so no new filtering will be required. The other ends of the fan and ducting will just fit into the holes in the cardboard with very little weight load.

However, if I've miscalculated and the cardboard looks to be suspect for what I need, I'll follow you and grab some plywood right quick.

Cheers, SC
 

Chili_berkster

Badass
ICMag Donor
Veteran
hey, its not fair playing with you. You have all the fancy tools like that there table saw. This thread may turn out to be a power tool picture showing contest. Woot! Great show, I'm following like a schoolkid.
 

clowntown

Active member
Veteran
Chili_berkster said:
hey, its not fair playing with you. You have all the fancy tools like that there table saw. This thread may turn out to be a power tool picture showing contest. Woot! Great show, I'm following like a schoolkid.

It's not fair playing with him because of his design and security staff!
 
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I love all the equipment porn shots.

I liked the part where just when you thought he wasnt going to use the old mh lights, he went ahead and did it.

but seriously, we more people like this on icmag, we need people like him so we can point our fuckin fingers, and say, this guy rules.
 
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Wow, my retarded design staff's already mishapen head is growing dangerously inflated.

Chili, you know the buds are secondary and it's all about the power tools. At night I like to dress up my teddy bears as construction workers and put the tools in their hands and play naughty bear pin-up calendar photographer.

And I though I put you on the guest list, clowntown. Must have been a mix up, that's for sure. My security staff can be a bit overzealous, I'll be the first to admit. Send me your medical bills and I'll take care of everything.

I rely too heavily on friends like you to insulate me from the riff raff, TMB. You're a sweetheart, and I mean that with 100% sincerity.

So after all this waiting, some more crappy pictures...

First the wiring of the fans, this takes only a minute as I said before:
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And the first shots of the partially assembled cabs...
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watermelon

Member
nice looking cabs.

i dont want to criticise, but why dont you just mod the lights to be remote ballast? i cant see this being very difficult to do.

also why did you go with three seperate cabs? surely one largeer cab would be better.
 

clowntown

Active member
Veteran
I was thinking the exact same thing at first, a C24 or two, running 600's.

But then I read about his design team.

And THEN I read about his security staff, and thought better of it. Didn't want them coming after me...
 
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Guest

Those are good ideas, watermellon. I'm sure the ballasts could be made remote (although I don't have a lot of electrical know how so this would be a tougher undertaking than the current one). And I could have used larger cabs, although with the tight fit of things the way they are (just a couple of inches on each side of the cabs and each side of each light within the cab), it would've been tricky to work with larger pieces. To be honest, I didn't even know that Mill's Pride made larger wardrobes as I didn't explore too many alternatives. I could say this was because I already had the ballasts and some experience with the C-25. But the fact of the matter is that I'm pretty stubborn like that. I don't take that as criticism at all, btw. Cheers and stick around for the grand finale.

Clowntown, there may be an opening for you on the team. We like to promote from within but you've got the right cut to your jibb.
 
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Thanks, Stoner. I've made dozens of mistakes, all of the recoverable. All hail duct tape!

And thank you, Indodro. I threw this thread up to inspire (I consider myself the Mother Teresa of marijuana message boards). Hopefully it'll persuade you to do something similar.

Cheers, SC
 
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Guest

Allright, pretty busy today so I didn't get all three done, but I've built a lip on the floor and got the poly on the bottom of each cab and the doors on the middle one...
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Guest

Wow, that does look really awesome clowntown. Next cab that's in the mix!

Cheers, SC
 

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