Green OldTimers Haze #19 X A5 Haze
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Montuno Thank you for your smoke report. A good cure will no doubt improve and reveal more of her unique qualities. Curious how you will rate her flowers post curing. I’m sure by then her overall aroma, taste & potency will reveal more of her character.
The more “citrus/lemon” trait that you described could also be inherited from A5 when keeping in mind that Nevils A & C Male Hazes were by him considered being siblings.
If this is in fact the case than although maybe in rare cases A5 offspring can exhibit citric/lemon aromatic traits.
My personal experience working both A5 & C5 seems to be supporting this to be the case excluding the fact that I have never found any of the dark liver/leather traits in any C5 offspring which should be a possible outcome. Either my personal experience is to limited to be conclusive or they’re differently related, maybe like cousins or Haze A being from a different year, prior to Haze C remaining genetically related? We can only try to get better picture by sharing our personal findings and assess and compare the offspring.
Bless!
The more “citrus/lemon” trait that you described could also be inherited from A5 when keeping in mind that Nevils A & C Male Hazes were by him considered being siblings.
If this is in fact the case than although maybe in rare cases A5 offspring can exhibit citric/lemon aromatic traits.
My personal experience working both A5 & C5 seems to be supporting this to be the case excluding the fact that I have never found any of the dark liver/leather traits in any C5 offspring which should be a possible outcome. Either my personal experience is to limited to be conclusive or they’re differently related, maybe like cousins or Haze A being from a different year, prior to Haze C remaining genetically related? We can only try to get better picture by sharing our personal findings and assess and compare the offspring.
Bless!
Im curious about the haze C122 mango.... and if the decayed flower petal musky...soft floral side of things came from the c122 or from the skunkHzA in mangohz.......
Do you have that one too YoSam 122? Ive always focused on haze A all these years and never really stopped to think about how great 122 is.
Also sorry if repeat but... could you tell me the differences between G13hzC and g13hzA as far as the frame/pistil style/color, and smells/potency? Plus your thoughts on the Soma g13hz..... I swore it was g13hzA... but someone was telling me yesterday it was C. Sorry for all the questions... Your brain is one of the first books Id take off the shelf at the moment.
Do you have that one too YoSam 122? Ive always focused on haze A all these years and never really stopped to think about how great 122 is.
Also sorry if repeat but... could you tell me the differences between G13hzC and g13hzA as far as the frame/pistil style/color, and smells/potency? Plus your thoughts on the Soma g13hz..... I swore it was g13hzA... but someone was telling me yesterday it was C. Sorry for all the questions... Your brain is one of the first books Id take off the shelf at the moment.
Was fortunate to have sampled some 5hzC122 “mango” and found it very C5 like in many ways, some small but absolutely beautiful grown flowers, loved it but haven’t been able to acces the particular cut so no chance cultivating it myself as of yet.
Absolutely love MangoHaze but wasn’t fortunate enough to keep any of the NLD leaning pheno’s.
As far as my take on CG13 vs AG13 is that CG13 wax a pain in the ass to grow, not as sturdy cultivar opposed to AG13 which holds a vegetable structure as an pumped up Afghan variety, denser bud structure and way different in aroma, taste & potency. CG was way more difficult to cultivate, airy hayish looking & tasting buds & poor yields put most cultivators off hence its demise.
CG13 had thicker more woolly stigma as opposed to AG13 who carries a finer stigma structure. Although some people claim to it still being preserved I can’t confirm it to be the case myself.
What exactly Soma’s G13Haze is I don’t know although lot’s of people claim it to be a G13HzC male, who’s to say?
Best way finding out is to grow its pedigree.
Absolutely love MangoHaze but wasn’t fortunate enough to keep any of the NLD leaning pheno’s.
As far as my take on CG13 vs AG13 is that CG13 wax a pain in the ass to grow, not as sturdy cultivar opposed to AG13 which holds a vegetable structure as an pumped up Afghan variety, denser bud structure and way different in aroma, taste & potency. CG was way more difficult to cultivate, airy hayish looking & tasting buds & poor yields put most cultivators off hence its demise.
CG13 had thicker more woolly stigma as opposed to AG13 who carries a finer stigma structure. Although some people claim to it still being preserved I can’t confirm it to be the case myself.
What exactly Soma’s G13Haze is I don’t know although lot’s of people claim it to be a G13HzC male, who’s to say?
Best way finding out is to grow its pedigree.
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Montuno
...como el Son...
Salud!
Te pongo al día, por si es interés, de como cómo está el tema ahora, tras algunos dias en los botes de vidrio:
Al abrir el bote, en el olor a limón dominante, el limón fermentado domina sobre el limón dulce o limonada. Con un fondo cárnico muy agradable como a higadillos o paté; este olor no aparecía antes.
Al trinchar el cogollo, es el olor limón dulce/limonada el que domina, hasta el punto de casi no distinguir nada más.
Al fumarla en joints (con boquilla echa con un trocito de cigarrillo de tabaco liado), junto a la mezcla de limón fermentado y dulce, ya os comenté cómo aparecía un sorprendente sabor catedralicio a incienso, totalmente ausente hasta la combustión, con la misma intensidad que el alimonado. La novedad es que el olor de fondo a higadillos/paté que aparece de fondo al abrir el bote, también aparece ahora (antes era inexistente) como sabor de fondo al fumar.
En cuanto a su psicoactividad, ya os comenté que de potencia, estará entre 7 y 8, en una escala de 0 a 10. Tarda bastante en subir: puedes estar acabandote un joint entero, cuando empiezas a sentir de que va la psicoactividad. Así mismo, el efecto va ascendiendo y tomándose un tiempo (para mí sorprendente) en llegar a su pico. Es por tanto un efecto muy duradero; ya os comentaré con el consumo diario sobre es aspecto de la tolerancia.
Y ahora más tarde entraré a comentaros, más allá de ya descrita potencia, sobre el tipo y calidad de su psicoactividad ahora mismo (recién embotellada), por qué si no excedo el límite del traductor (...)
Health!
I'll update you, in case it's of interest, on how the subject is now, after a few days in glass jars:
When you open the jar, in the dominant lemon smell, the fermented lemon dominates over the sweet lemon or lemonade. With a very pleasant meaty background like livers or pate/foie gras; this smell did not appear before.
When carving the bud, it is the sweet lemon/lemonade smell that dominates, to the point of hardly distinguishing anything else.
When smoked in joints (with a mouthpiece made with a small piece of rolled tobacco cigarette), together with the mixture of fermented and sweet lemon, I already told you how a surprising cathedral incense flavor appeared, totally absent until combustion, with the same intensity as the lemony one. The novelty is that the background smell of livers / pate that appears in the background when opening the pot, also appears now (before it was nonexistent) as a background flavor when smoking.
As for its psychoactivity, I already told you that its potency will be between 7 and 8, on a scale of 0 to 10. It takes quite a long time to rise: you can be finishing a whole joint, when you start to feel the psychoactivity. Also, the effect is ascending and taking a time (for me surprising) to reach its peak. It is therefore a very long-lasting effect; I will comment with the daily consumption on this aspect of tolerance.
And now later I will comment, beyond the already described potency, on the type and quality of its psychoactivity right now (just bottled), because if I do not exceed the limit of the translator.
I like lemons
Montuno
...como el Son...
I like lemons
...Y al verde, veeeerdee limón.
Leaning against the doorway of the mansebía
I watched the May night light up
Men passed by and I smiled
Until you stopped your horse at my door...
...
Serrana (Mountains womán)! Will you give me a light? (you said),
And I said to you: Gaché
Come and take it on my lips
And I'll give you fire ...
...
You left the horse and I gave you fire
And they were two green May stars
Your eyes for me
Green eyes
Green as basil
Green as green wheat
And the green, the lime green
Green eyes, green eyes
With the shine of knifes
That have stuck in my heart
For me there are no more suns, luseros (Venus and stars) or moons
There are only a few eyes that are my way
Green eyes
Green as basil
Green as green wheat
And the green, the lemon green
We saw from the room wake up er day
And sound the dawn the tower the candle
You left my arm at dawn
And in my mouth a taste of mint and cinnamon...
...
Brown serrana! for a dress
I want to give you away (you said),
I told you: You are fulfilled!
You don't have to give me nothing...
...
You got on the horse, you left me
And never another more beautiful night of May
I've lived again
Green eyes
Green as basil
Green as green wheat
And the green, the lemon green
Green green eyes, with a faceted gleam
That have been nailed in my heart
For me there are no more suns, luseros (Venus and stars) or moons
There's nothing but eyes that are my life
Green eyes
Green as basil
Green as green wheat
And the green..., ...the lemon green
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a_HQXzqr41E
Montuno
...como el Son...
Montuno
...como el Son...
Ufff... Se me ponen los pelos como escarpias (y con lo peludo que soy, parezco un erizo, je).
Seguimos con con otra bellísima selección musical bajo el influjo de mi Green Haze 19 A5. Ahora, Silvia Pérez Cruz retoma el clásico HispanoBrasileño "LLorando se fue AKA Lambada", pero solo arropada con cuerdas clásicas, y con una delicadeza y gusto que perforo el jersey hasta por los hombros, je...
Ufff... My hair is standing on end (and as hairy as I am, I look like a hedgehog, heh).
We continue with another beautiful musical selection under the influence of my Green Haze 19 A5. Now, Silvia Perez Cruz takes up the classic HispanoBrazilian "LLorando se fue AKA Lambada", but only wrapped with classical strings, and with a delicacy and taste that I pierces the sweater up to the shoulders, heh...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8lI0KfsOI1c
Seguimos con con otra bellísima selección musical bajo el influjo de mi Green Haze 19 A5. Ahora, Silvia Pérez Cruz retoma el clásico HispanoBrasileño "LLorando se fue AKA Lambada", pero solo arropada con cuerdas clásicas, y con una delicadeza y gusto que perforo el jersey hasta por los hombros, je...
Ufff... My hair is standing on end (and as hairy as I am, I look like a hedgehog, heh).
We continue with another beautiful musical selection under the influence of my Green Haze 19 A5. Now, Silvia Perez Cruz takes up the classic HispanoBrazilian "LLorando se fue AKA Lambada", but only wrapped with classical strings, and with a delicacy and taste that I pierces the sweater up to the shoulders, heh...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8lI0KfsOI1c
Montuno
...como el Son...
Estáis sintonizando Radio Montuna (Emisora Libre y Pirata; tu te acuerdas de Radio Klara allá, dubi ?), emitiendo ilegalmente desde Sierra Morena, belleza gratuita
Y ahora, y siempre bajo la agradable neblina de la Geen Haza 19 A5, otra barbaridad de versión, está esta vez del folklore mexicano, de la inimitable Silvia Pérez Cruz : "Cucurrucucu, paloma":
You are tuning in to Radio Montuna (free and pirate radio station; you remember Radio Klara over there, dubi ?), broadcasting illegally from Sierra Morena, free beauty.
And now, and always under the pleasant haze of the Geen Haze 19 A5, another barbaric version, live on a Spanish bar, this time from Mexican folklore, by the inimitable Silvia Perez Cruz : "Cucurrucucu, paloma":
(and watch out for the guitarist, Patron star crash )
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C_FmwVdeC6I
Y ahora, y siempre bajo la agradable neblina de la Geen Haza 19 A5, otra barbaridad de versión, está esta vez del folklore mexicano, de la inimitable Silvia Pérez Cruz : "Cucurrucucu, paloma":
You are tuning in to Radio Montuna (free and pirate radio station; you remember Radio Klara over there, dubi ?), broadcasting illegally from Sierra Morena, free beauty.
And now, and always under the pleasant haze of the Geen Haze 19 A5, another barbaric version, live on a Spanish bar, this time from Mexican folklore, by the inimitable Silvia Perez Cruz : "Cucurrucucu, paloma":
(and watch out for the guitarist, Patron star crash )
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C_FmwVdeC6I
Montuno
...como el Son...
Je, je,je... Radio Montuna, y Montuno y su Son, llegando hasta Boriquen y Nueva York...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EHvNtn4hWe8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EHvNtn4hWe8
Montuno
...como el Son...
...Actualizando sobre el olor/sabor en combustión al fumar: a veces el alimonado parece llevar un leve final metálico refrescante (recordad que no me gusta nada el sabor metálico; pero ahora es mucho más refinado, sutil y refrescante que el olor metálico de su primera etapa de floración).
Al mismo tiempo, yo diría que el nuevo y apetitoso olor/sabor cárnico (despierta el apetito hasta a mí, que soy más de comer pescado), es más hogaditos que foei-gras o paté... Eso sí, la mezcla de limón fermentado, limonada dulce, e incienso de catedral, sigue siendo dominante con mucho en el olor/sabor al fumar.
...Update on the burning smell/flavor when smoking: sometimes the lemony seems to carry a slight refreshing metallic finish (remember I don't like metallic taste at all; but now it is much more refined, subtle and refreshing than the metallic smell of its first flowering stage).
At the same time, I would say that the new appetizing meaty smell/flavor (it whets the appetite even for me, who am more of a fish eater), is more fried livers than foei gras or pate.... Mind you, the mix of fermented lemon, sweet lemonade, and cathedral incense, is still dominant by far in the smell/flavor when smoking.
Montuno Estoy buscando ubicarme en otro país en tres años. Estoy buscando un país cálido y acogedor. Me dijeron que Portugal podría ser una posibilidad. Me preguntaba si tiene alguna sugerencia y me puede guiar. El estado de inmigración puede ser un problema. Tengo dos condenas por delitos graves anteriores por posesión criminal de marihuana
Hombre del mont
Dr of Stupidity
You could do worse than rural southern Spain. Awesome climate, sparsly populated, fantastic scenery, fantastic mountains, laid back culture and easy going locals.
I need to learn how to speak Spanish… 
Montuno
...como el Son...
Piensa que ni aquí, y quizá menos en Portugal, puedes plantar todo lo que plantas dentro de la legalidad.
En exterior, su vista y olor no debe ser denunciada como molestia por nadie (ni a nivel de la calle, ni desde sus viviendas). La policía/guardia civil tolerará tu cultivo mientras solo pueda verse con medios aéreos, y ellos no puedan verlo/olerlo desde el suelo, azotea de edificio, o cima de montańa cercana.
En exterior, el cultivo es "tolerable y no ilegal" mientras (aparte de lo dicho anteriormente), sea para autoconsumo de l@s propietari@s del suelo de la plantación: si no ven indicios de narcotráfico, hasta 4 plantas gigantes suelen tolerar: en este caso puede que no te denunciasen, pero te obligarían a arrancarla como mínimo.
En interior, este no debe tampoco ser denunciado por ningún tipo de molestia a ajenos (visual, auditiva u olfativa), y estrictamente para autoconsumo.
Otros mejor que yo, quizá podrían informarte sobre las asociaciones cannabicas, los clubs legales de consumidores de cannabis, el cultivo para CBD, etc...
EN ESPAÑA NO EXISTE LA POSESIÓN CRIMINAL DE NINGUNA DROGA SI ES PARA AUTOCONSUMO. Incluso su consumo público (prohibido) se castiga con multas economicas al ser FALTA y no MULTA. Su posesión para vender a otros, si es delito.
Uruguay y Colombia, en tu continente, también son cada vez más atractivos para los cultivadores legales de marihuana. Ahora mismo hay muchísimas más posibilidades de negocio cannabico legal, que en España (al menos, hasta que el gobierno actual deje de hablar de legalizar, y se ponga activente a legalizar)
Think that even here, and maybe less so in Portugal, you can't plant everything you plant within the legality.
Outdoors, its sight and smell should not be reported as a nuisance by anyone (neither at street level, nor from their homes). The police/civil guard will tolerate your crop as long as it can only be seen by aerial means, and they cannot see/olerate it from the ground, building rooftop, or nearby mountaintop.
Outdoors, cultivation is "tolerable and not illegal" as long as (apart from the above), it is for self-consumption of the owners of the plantation land: if they do not see signs of drug trafficking, up to 4 giant plants are usually tolerated: in this case you may not be denounced, but you would be forced to uproot it as a minimum, if your 4 plants can be seen or smelled.
Indoors, this should also not be reported for any kind of nuisance to others (visual, auditory or olfactory), and strictly for self-consumption.
Others, better than me, could perhaps inform you about cannabis associations, legal clubs for cannabis consumers, CBD cultivation, etc...
IN SPAIN THERE IS NO CRIMINAL POSSESSION OF ANY DRUG IF IT IS FOR SELF-CONSUMPTION. Even its public consumption (forbidden) is punished with economic fines as it is a FAULT and not a CRIME. Its possession to sell to others is a crime.
Uruguay and Colombia, in your continent, are also becoming more and more attractive for legal marijuana growers. Right now there are much more possibilities for legal cannabis business than in Spain (at least, until the current government stops talking about legalizing, and starts actively to legalize).
