Greedy Phony MJ growers/entrepeneurs

[DAT]

there is a breed of Marijuana entrepreneur's that are thriving these dayz.. human turds that completely disgust me. im curious how many of you have had the pleasure of meeting these kinda jerks as well. or am I just the lucky one?

I have met several of these pieces of shit... and ....man are they phony fuckin assholes......

They have these commonalities.

1. The are the mj business strickly for the money.. greedy fuckers.
2. The say they smoke the ganja but do not at all... lying fuckers.

3. They pretend they are doing a service for the sick but don't give a rats ass.

4.They have massive EGOs and think they are hot shit.

LoL. times was so much cooler when pot was illegal. I used to have this really sweet spiritual vibe and connection with people that got high for the love of the high , the simplicity of it all and good times .. but I feel so far removed from those days now. Do you know what I mean?

 

[stoned-trout]

I met several of them when I lived in sandiego..I didn't let my meds go to any of them just out of principal......yeehaw....growing it for the money is ok as far as I am concerned but the rest I can do without....hard to say otherwise as I bought my last new car from my hobby lol... I don't change my values or cut corners for money tho....

 

[MJtheIndicator]

If we stay true to one another with our bond born of love and joy, the truth we share will be louder than the greed and ego of a world which is outside our's. Cannabis is not a cure for ignorance, but a friend of the wise.

 

[DAT]

The Marijuana Plant is such magical spiritual powerful entity. I only use it for truly deep positive spiritual connections that take me to outter body channels and connect me to the most heavenly beautiful groovy vibes that can are shared with those that have channeled the same spititual connection. I can do this through creating my marijuana art work stoned immaculate . its so intense . People that abuse the plants powers have a rude awakening.

 

[Former Guest]

I was just saying this the other day. before I got into the medical community, I was under the impression that everything is for the patient and this was supposed to be to promote healing. I didn't want to go get a card just so I could get awesome pot. well as the years went by, the pot got gross and deals were shadier and then I got the news about my tongue and decided to start growing and get my license. I thought that the collectives are for the patients but it's not, it's for profit. huge profits and while a lot of people maybe got their cards so they could just get awesome pot or edibles or whatever, there are people who are sick, hurt and need this gift from earth.

then I hear all day about how bad big pharm is and how they try to get you to use this drug or that drug when all you need is pot. I feel like the medical community is almost just as bad as big pharm by taking advantage of people who are sick by making massive amounts of money off of them. I had no idea these collective growers were making upwards of 100k per year while some people are struggling to pay medical bills and are nauseous from chemo or they're in pain from arthritis. what even bothers me the most is, a lot of the people who are big do not help out the people who are small or others who are trying to provide for their medical needs. I feel like I have bought into some sham. some growers like stoned trout will help you quite a bit but some just get on here and talk with the other big growers to network and show off or even to just fight. eventually the newbs see this and learn what they need to and I'm seeing a lot of open accounts that haven't posted or even logged on in a long time. when I get confident in growing and don't have as many questions, I'm outta here. this place is worse than living with the parents. well, I might stick around for the few good ones. private message works wonders. that way you can just sit in the back of the class and make fun of the cool kids :friends:

 

[mojave green]

i'm too old and my shit's dialed. i don't fuk with douche bags. i will walk away fast! try me!

 

[DAT]

LLbeaner.... and the legal pot shops here in WA are selling a gram for 25-30 dollars.
the dispensarys are a joke. sometimes I have extra meds and want to donate to them and they wont take my primo without a sample, then like POT SNObs they don't call me to even see if would give this to their patients for free. ur so right, they are so sleezy . HA1! and the pimps and whores that work there are skanky as they get.LOL! please
don't get discouraged by the comins and goings of of fools on the forum here. Just go with the flow its cool your here and I love you so much. aren't u addicted to bud porn? where else u gonna get it so good?

 

[krunchbubble]

there is a breed of Marijuana entrepreneur's that are thriving these dayz.. human turds that completely disgust me. im curious how many of you have had the pleasure of meeting these kinda jerks as well. or am I just the lucky one?

I have met several of these pieces of shit... and ....man are they phony fuckin assholes......

They have these commonalities.

1. The are the mj business strickly for the money.. greedy fuckers.
2. The say they smoke the ganja but do not at all... lying fuckers.

3. They pretend they are doing a service for the sick but don't give a rats ass.

4.They have massive EGOs and think they are hot shit.

LoL. times was so much cooler when pot was illegal. I used to have this really sweet spiritual vibe and connection with people that got high for the love of the high , the simplicity of it all and good times .. but I feel so far removed from those days now. Do you know what I mean?

This is going to be the norm as pot goes more mainstream....

Get used to it!!! And be prepared for to get more ridiculous!

 

[Former Guest]

I have a feeling that we are a short distance from each other the ones here work the same as the ones up your way. there is a movement by someone here local who is trying to set up a bud donation group on facebook for growers to connect with patients in case they got some extra stuff they want to donate. not many people post but one guy does who suffers from a neurological nerve disorder of some sort. he needs meds about once every two months or so and he gets donations from farmers who are at the market I go to. I wanted to start a nonprofit type org to do a bud donation site for patients ran by volunteers along with a fertilizer food bank so you could get grow stuff as well. get some grants from cannabis org's for projects pertaining to med patients in need as long as they can show applicable proof of low income or medical needs with medical bills, I don't see how it could be abused as much as the system already is.

 

[Red Berry]

yea the guy running mac donalds is wayy coooler then the guy running kfc.

 

[Former Guest]

at least the guy growing pot working at mc donalds trims his own plants.....living the dream....sounds like stress and where you gotta watch your back while your values go in the toilet.

the reason why growers cant find good trimmers is that people who don't want to put up with attitudes and egos won't trim for you. people who will put up with that will do it because they can steal from you. in the end, I hope karma straightens it out. my dealer that I buy from until this all works out is nice and gives me good deals. just the other day I was broke and asked him if I could get a deal for being a good customer and he said sure and hooked me up great. he gets my business. the collective that sold me the BM clones knowingly, they have had their name ran up and down this town from one side to the other with every vendor I know of and gossip spreads like wild fire. I've had some shitty experiences but I've gone out of my way to make sure people know not to go there. it all works out in the end.

 

[therevverend]

Those guys are assholes. Let's be honest though, over the years I've dealt with plenty of growers and dealers who weren't "kind" spiritual people who gave a sacred plant to those in need.
Back in the day there were plenty of growers who didn't give a shit about anyone but themselves, their drug habits, and their egos. More than happy to repay a front of some kick ass clones with a coffee can full of wet moldy scrag.
I've seen tweekers cut their plants at four weeks, soak it in soda, then sell it sopping to other tweekers. To pay the rent they're six months behind on despite the fact they're stealing power to 10 1000 watt grow lights. In a grow room with walls covered in black mold. Greed and sloth on a Biblical level.
In a way the dispensary system has pushed these fools into irrelevance. Even the teenagers looking to get high, who will smoke anything, can get something better. And now almost anyone can get a medical card and grow their own.
If you think you can throw a light in a decrepit moldy building and crank out some four week hydro garbage that you man handle and dry on your van's dashboard, who will buy it?

 

[fulltimehuman]

I don't know about thriving.....as we reap what we sow in the long run. But I hear you DAT. I put trust and faith into a couple 'friends' and I've almost clawed myself...and my family out of the hole I admittedly allowed myself to get buried in. God my writing is struggling right now...lol. Live and learn, I also get enraged recalling it but what can ya do? Its honest people who willingly give their psychic energy FOR FREE that are the ones who feel miffed by this, most people are just cut-throat it seems, at least externally. So I EXPECT honesty because I'm honest. So, if your feeling it your still connected to feeling,keep wearing your heart on your sleeve! I have experience with a few of who you describe that can not muster an emotion unless their prescription of psychotropic drugs runs out or their from-another-galaxy-porno website gets blocked....sound familiar? or TMI? These dudes are just scared because the economy sucks and they think they I can grow 'medikal mariwana'!!! AS IF!!! Maybe they will get a bailout and their brother-in-law will hire them at the Public Storage they own......I doubt it.But, I digress.

 

[Former Guest]

 

[HempKat]

when I get confident in growing and don't have as many questions, I'm outta here. this place is worse than living with the parents. well, I might stick around for the few good ones. private message works wonders. that way you can just sit in the back of the class and make fun of the cool kids :friends:

That would be a shame if you left after you got the confidence you need. That would be one less person helping the newbies.

As for the big growers, well consider this, once you go big it becomes a different ballgame. You're not growing for yourself or for a few patients, you're growing commercially which means you got a lot of competition and so you got to be on top of your game. People in that position are less likely to have the free time to walk a new grower thru all the aspects of growing and it's probably even hard for them to scale back what they know now to relate to the wants and needs of a new grower. Yet the new growers typically end up looking to these big commercial growers because they see them as being the personification of success. I've been running my wanna ask the old farts thread for close to a decade now and in the past several years I've had virtually nobody seeking help there. What I offer is basic, simple, easy to understand, entry level advice but that's apparently not what anyone wants anymore. Seems like most coming here want to skip the basics and go straight to advanced. Yet most advanced level people don't want to spell it out. They want people to pretty much know what they're doing so they only need to offer a few suggestions on how to be better. At least that's the impression I get.

As for the expense of weed at these canna stores and dispensaries, well a big part of the problem is that these commercial places came into being under the promise of new tax revenue and the governments (State and Federal) are taking huge bites out of the profits I saw a news report on this not long ago and this one Colorado shop owner was saying he's paying out close to 70% of his profits in taxes and he also talked about others in the industry being hit even harder.

"If you open a marijuana store you can expect to have between 60 and 80 percent average effective business taxes. Sometimes it's as high as 90 or 93 percent."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-...-up-to-93-and-its-absurd-2013-9#ixzz3JmxAVusT

 

[Former Guest]

well, I'm starting to realize that a good majority of the participating members are all commercial growers and most of the big shots on here are. I too was just like you described: read some basic growing stuff and thought I had a understanding and jumped basically right into the advanced stuff. I saw the big plants outdoors guys and the giant indoor ops and was wowed until I realized that this isn't really a forum but it's more like facebook without the cool features such as blocking. a few people help who know what they're saying, some people help because they want to be helpful and sometimes they're right, but mostly it's full of egos who make fun of people, don't help out, and basically run off every new person by making this place unfriendly and so no newbs can learn. not everyone can be ran off so easily though but for me to learn what I want to learn and stick around here to deal with this boy drama is what makes me not want to be on the forums.

I thought that if I pointed out that the unfriendly nature of the forums is something that icmag should deal with because if they banned the big ego bullies and left the ones who helped out or mainly didn't fuck with others, the whole atmosphere would be more inviting, word would spread that icmag actually enforces tou for everyone no matter who they are, people would join up or become active again and why would they want people to be more active on icmag??? seed sales. I would not know about any of these breeders until I got on the forums. I've heard of barneys farm, sensi seeds, etc but why would I buy them through some place that is a forum when I can buy them from an actually retailer that has a large variety who has a reputation. I asked around before ordering my seeds and everyone told me to go to mr nice or the attitude. the only few people who know about these smaller vendors are people who get online on these forums. so if this was a more friendly place, people who bullied were banned, more people wouldn't just lurk and not talk, and with the more interaction icmag can get from it's forum, the seed sales would soar.

I'm pretty much been saying this sort of thing for the past two months after I decided to delete my account after an ordeal with a commercial grower who made me think the way I do. If you don't like how something is in your life, change it, do something, get off the couch, raise your voice, get freaking angry; just don't get apathetic and frustrated. I really think that the medical community can turn this around but only after the dismantling and rebuild that the state will do. from what I'm hearing is that they are going to do away with all the dispensaries but still allow medical patients to home grow which would force the big players stealing the money from the tax revenue to basically shut down or go black market. there was a few articles about it on Forbes a while back and the movie Evergreen on Netflix is talking about this as well. the allowance of home grow is still up in the air but I think they are mainly going after the commercial operations stealing tax dollars. at first I was on the medical side but more and more my attitude the past few weeks has awakened to the reality of what's really going on here and it makes me sick.

all these commercial growers keep secret so only a few people know about them as most people don't have a friend who grows so their whole game is going to be affected. it's not going to be living the dream for much longer.

 

[papertrails]

a lot of them on Colorado.. all sorts of fakes

 

[growsjoe1]

This thread cracks me up...

Saying that weed is so spiritualistic or whatever and making a profit off producing or selling it somehow makes you a sub human scumbag.

Ha ha Ha...You are paying for a convenience and like any ready to be consumed product that you didn/t make with your own hands are going to pay for that...simple economics. My labor, my knowledge, my skill and resources...yep, I somehow don't get to make a living off those because it's just WEED man. I should just give it away...lutz

 

[LEF]

^^ smart ass


weed to me is also sacred, like it is sacred in other countries...

people are going to jail, getting killed for it

this is big medicine, it calms down crazy people, bring comfort to the poor and ill

cannabis has the power to help us bring down evil government and create a new world,
where we are allowed to medicate in safety and peace

 

[growsjoe1]

It does all those things...still doesn't mean I not able to make a living off supplying it to these that need it...or want it for whatever purpose