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Grafting to create the perfect Bonsai Mom
- Thread starter methias
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medicaluser2
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this is fascinating. you will get it methias! let us know how its going and if they have taken well
thanks
thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vy_NFZwkcs&feature=related
This was the vid that did the trick for me. The ziplocks are key. I did my grafting a little different. I have been trying for a couple weeks now with no luck. So far the last 4 attempts have passed the 2cnd day and no signs of wilting or browning.
I watched a few videos and consumed about 6 threads on the subject. I like the long angled cut thru a node technique as opposed to the splicing demonstrated in the above video.
I made an angled cut thru the nodesite of the mother plant and an angled cut thru the nodesite of the donor plant.
{| /|}
•|//|• nodesite
{|/ |}
I then used a small spongebob bandaid to wrap the wound tight after lining up the two cuts to match properly with the nodesites lining up (as poorly illustrated above). After wrapping with the bandaid I misted the bandaid and leaf matter heavily. I then misted the inside of a standard ziplock brand sandwich baggy and sealed up everything starting just below the bandaid. I also tried to "fluff' the baggy a bit to give a nice airpocket for the freshly grafted top. In addition I removed any large fan leaf matter leaving just a few starting node leafsets and used new growth nonwoody sections.
It seems to be working so far. (AK-48 base with Northen Lights, Bubblegum, & Apple Jack donors)
-GH-
Edit: 6 days later they are still happy and thriving. I took the Ziplock off of one and after about 3 hours decided it needed to go back on.
Edit: 13 days later FAIL. We are trying again this time with newskin liquid bandaid (aka Superglue) instead of spongebob. Also adding 2 additional strains for a total of 5 grafts.
Edit: Month later some success. The Superglue worked. I had 1 success. Mostly my fault as I forgot to put the bags back on after airing them out one night. Trying again with 3 new grafts. Hopefully a step by step with pic coming in the future!
This was the vid that did the trick for me. The ziplocks are key. I did my grafting a little different. I have been trying for a couple weeks now with no luck. So far the last 4 attempts have passed the 2cnd day and no signs of wilting or browning.
I watched a few videos and consumed about 6 threads on the subject. I like the long angled cut thru a node technique as opposed to the splicing demonstrated in the above video.
I made an angled cut thru the nodesite of the mother plant and an angled cut thru the nodesite of the donor plant.
{| /|}
•|//|• nodesite
{|/ |}
I then used a small spongebob bandaid to wrap the wound tight after lining up the two cuts to match properly with the nodesites lining up (as poorly illustrated above). After wrapping with the bandaid I misted the bandaid and leaf matter heavily. I then misted the inside of a standard ziplock brand sandwich baggy and sealed up everything starting just below the bandaid. I also tried to "fluff' the baggy a bit to give a nice airpocket for the freshly grafted top. In addition I removed any large fan leaf matter leaving just a few starting node leafsets and used new growth nonwoody sections.
It seems to be working so far. (AK-48 base with Northen Lights, Bubblegum, & Apple Jack donors)
-GH-
Edit: 6 days later they are still happy and thriving. I took the Ziplock off of one and after about 3 hours decided it needed to go back on.
Edit: 13 days later FAIL. We are trying again this time with newskin liquid bandaid (aka Superglue) instead of spongebob. Also adding 2 additional strains for a total of 5 grafts.
Edit: Month later some success. The Superglue worked. I had 1 success. Mostly my fault as I forgot to put the bags back on after airing them out one night. Trying again with 3 new grafts. Hopefully a step by step with pic coming in the future!
methias
Active member
Oh the shame....
Oh the shame....
Long story short.
I Failed again.
I still have 2 moms left and two weeks ago 7/27/11 I once again got a wild hair up my ass
and gave it another go.
And why should I expect anything different this time? Because I learned something every time I failed.
This time I added a tiny amount of the rooting hormone to a cup of water. This is where (under water) I made the cuts to the donor branches and let them set while preparing the (recipients) moms.
I used sterile gauze (1/4" x 2") to wrap the splice and then soaked it with the water solution. Then I used the wax to seal the whole area.
I had the moms under individual humidity domes for the first 11 days and now they are out
and not dead as of this morning.
If they survive until next weekend I will take some pics and share.
Catch us here next week,
Same bat time..........
Meanwhile the vape bag is full and I must................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,_
Oh the shame....
Long story short.
I Failed again.I still have 2 moms left and two weeks ago 7/27/11 I once again got a wild hair up my ass
and gave it another go.And why should I expect anything different this time? Because I learned something every time I failed.
This time I added a tiny amount of the rooting hormone to a cup of water. This is where (under water) I made the cuts to the donor branches and let them set while preparing the (recipients) moms.
I used sterile gauze (1/4" x 2") to wrap the splice and then soaked it with the water solution. Then I used the wax to seal the whole area.
I had the moms under individual humidity domes for the first 11 days and now they are out
and not dead as of this morning.If they survive until next weekend I will take some pics and share.
Catch us here next week,
Same bat time..........
Meanwhile the vape bag is full and I must................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,_
Pointswest
Member
You are going to be waiting a long time for results. This thread is as dead as the scions trying to be grafted to these plants.
The reason for graftin Cannabis to hops was stealth.. Hops scion grafted to a cannabis root ball creates hops with THC..So go the story..good luck all.... grafting has a use in any legal state/country where plant numbers are set in stone..pal
methias
Active member
I have revived this thread and this time I think I have it.
one is growing and I just added another graft today so grab a fatty and lets go.
The open graft is 16 days since the surgery. The bagged one is from today.
You can see the wax ball around the splice. I did the second one because I realized that the first is pretty high up on the plant and my mom lives in cramped quarters so #2 is attached much lower.
one is growing and I just added another graft today
so grab a fatty and lets go.The open graft is 16 days since the surgery. The bagged one is from today.
You can see the wax ball around the splice. I did the second one because I realized that the first is pretty high up on the plant and my mom lives in cramped quarters so #2 is attached much lower.
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methias
Active member
It Works
It Works
BTW
I know mom looks a bit sparse.
I just trimmed the hell out of her.
She is doing OK
More pics next week but it looks like we are good and my mom is now a mother of many flavors
As I get my hands on other strains I will add to her.
I am stoked...
Time for a reward bag of Vape
Peace
It Works
BTW
I know mom looks a bit sparse.
I just trimmed the hell out of her.
She is doing OK
More pics next week but it looks like we are good and my mom is now a mother of many flavors
As I get my hands on other strains I will add to her.
I am stoked...
Time for a reward bag of Vape
Peace
whatsupdoc
Member
Never give up.
Pointswest
Member
This is absolutely false. The genetics creating the psychoactive agents are not shared by the stock and scion. only the grafted marijuana scion would have the THC and other psychoactive agents, not the hops stock. This is why apple trees with grafts can have more than one variety on the same tree. If your theory is right these would all be hybrids of the multiple grafts and this is not the case.
I am well aware what this would mean for multiple variety mother stock on one plant. If this was so easy it would be commonplace. Show me plants that have been grafted together for months not days.
grafting does not cause a dna transfer to happen or anything of the sort
@methias - that's bad ass =) hope the newest one takes well!
@methias - that's bad ass =) hope the newest one takes well!
methias
Active member
Were not trying to make a slushie here.
Yes the donor branch is still "ET2" and clones of it will be ET2 as well.
When space for mom to live in is limited (as in my situation) and you just don't want to get in a rut, My mom of two flavors will provide me with two (and possibly more) strains to clone at will while only taking the room for one mom.
Pics will follow her progress. so stay tuned kiddies
Peace
Yes the donor branch is still "ET2" and clones of it will be ET2 as well.
When space for mom to live in is limited (as in my situation) and you just don't want to get in a rut, My mom of two flavors will provide me with two (and possibly more) strains to clone at will while only taking the room for one mom.
Pics will follow her progress. so stay tuned kiddies
Peace
Interesting thread. My pops grafted a red delicious sapling to a golden delicious truck. Didn't get a hybrid apple. 100% red delicious as far as we could tell. We could have left part of the yellow apple growing but didn't like em. IMO, we'd have had two different apples on the same tree, not a hodgepodge of each.
methias
Active member
Think a pie chart with 6 slices (main branches). all 6 started as Judy mom.
On one I grafted a slice of ET2 (the one that looks good so far) and on the next slice (branch) I just did another.
If it all takes I now have a mom that I can pick and choose future crops based on my needs and desires all from one mom. Add an additional strain on two slices for a 1/3 judy, 1/3 ET2, and 1/3 whatever.
Then Judy will truly be a
Bonsai mom of many flavors
On one I grafted a slice of ET2 (the one that looks good so far) and on the next slice (branch) I just did another.
If it all takes I now have a mom that I can pick and choose future crops based on my needs and desires all from one mom. Add an additional strain on two slices for a 1/3 judy, 1/3 ET2, and 1/3 whatever.
Then Judy will truly be a
Bonsai mom of many flavors
Yeah, I follow your method and wish you the best. Somebody mentioned 'mixed' results (and apples to weed ain't the best comparison.) Just thought I'd mention we didn't get a hybrid with apples.
slushie, holy crap that's hilarious =)
