Gorilla Glue #4

[CARE giver]

im not arguing your stuff isnt organic.

but theres something to be said for growing the plant in its natural habitat. Its in its own genetics to grow that way.

im not saying im right im just saying i believe all natural is the way to go. My plants have never looked better, tasted better... the only thing my plants lack is possibly yield? But im still not even sure on that.

PS. Im not even sure I live by the TLO way of doing things. I just used amended soil with guanos. Thats basically what it comes down to.

 

[CARE giver]

I may have been a tad heated/opinionated though last night. was fighting with my girlfriend. Took a pretty hard stand against you.

But I still meant what I said. I just feel if you let the plant do the thinking then youre better off. But if you have your nutes dialed in and your plants turn out great-who am i to argue with that. I just its better and even easier to let the plant do the thinking and derive all its nutrients from its base.

 

[unclefishstick]

once again no offense is intended but thats also utter poppycock,plants dont give a hoot what form nutrients are in.nor do the "know" what they need,they find resources and exploit them in an opportunistic way and not a purposeful way...

dont get me wrong,i believe in organic gardening wholeheartedly,but i also think its something that occurs outside under the sun using materials that come from your local bioregion meaning no farther than 60 miles away.while i applaud any attempt to mitigate the harm of growing indoors under lights on the planet i think its somewhat misguided to gather biomass from across the planet like most TLO mixes and then sequester it in some dank basement to grow weed,i really dont see how that helps the planet at all...sort of like buying a prius and then ignoring that all those batteries contain lithium which is strip mined from really low grade ore off in some desert in peru that americans dont need to see so they get to feel smug about how "conscious" they are...

sorry for the rant here,the important thing is are you happy with your grows? if so then awesome,good for you,it is up to you to decide how you grow,not random internet folks..

 

[jw23ck11]

gg#4 was created in Vegas, indoors. Anyone who has ever lived in Vegas knows there isn't any mother nature there!

 

[thewhitelotus]

Thanks for the kind words everyone! Tis my second run with her and looking forward to the next one under the new E Series Gavitas.

LyryC, i dont get much of a carmelized popcorn smell to mine, but i do notice a sweet hint to em. I just poked my nose into a jar that has 2 month old Glue curing and its hard to explain....almost like a citrus candy with straight funk!

 

[theother]

I say the answer is a hybrid best of TLO best of salts type solution. No reason to not have your cake and eat it to right? FWIW I have seen some big TLO operations move towards getting some salts in the mix at certain times, but I doubt they are telling everyone about it LOL.

 

[Ganjaganjakush]

Took one of my first glues down 3 day quick dry on a small bud, I get this old coffee cup/choclate smell as I break it up I get smacked in the face by a sweet sour funk that's hard to explain which translates right to taste that lingers on the tougne. Ty josey this plant is amazing and has brought some joy back into my life

 

[bobblehead]

If you have a soil test indicating you're deficient in particular elements, then it is considered organic to use raw salts to bring your numbers within range. Blindly adding salts as is the common gardening practice is not. Salts can be used in tlo and it can still be tlo. It's in my thread as well as how I calculated the amount of salts to add.

Hippie tears are pretty controversial, depending on where they're sourced. I prefer 100% nomadic vegan hippie tears myself. Hippie mills are just unethical imo.

 

[milkyjoe]

That is one thing we can all agree on. Free range hippies > factory farmed hippies

 

[Ichabod Crane]

My problem with hippy tears in the definition of free range. I prefer real free range hippy tears. Not the kind where only a few can get out into the alley while most have to stay inside because there is no room to get out.

 

[CARE giver]

once again no offense is intended but thats also utter poppycock,plants dont give a hoot what form nutrients are in.nor do the "know" what they need,they find resources and exploit them in an opportunistic way and not a purposeful way...

Im not saying organics is the end all be all. Im still learning more and more everyday just like everyone else. Ive been stating my opinion on my experience so far. My plants literally never have a problem. Maybe I could push them more though?

Are you stating facts here? If so please explain im all ears and a very open minded person.

 

[CARE giver]

The reason Ive switched to organics is because of Frank. I dont use his mix. But he does use bottled nutrients instead of teas for simplicity. If thats what were arguing about I have no problem with doing that.

I dont even make teas. I sprinkle guano on my soil and feed. I guess you could call that bottle feed in a sense. So Im not saying its stupid to use bottled nutes. As long as theyre organic. Because I believe organic things hold the highest vibration. and the higher the vibration the healthier your plants will be in their true essence.

But the organic community does get a bad wrap. Because there's idiots involved just like with anything else. Ive done my research though and as far as i know Im doing everything I can to imitate the perfect organic soil and feeding regimen for marijuana plants. But im sure there's still a ton of things i could be doing.

 

[unclefishstick]

Im not saying organics is the end all be all. Im still learning more and more everyday just like everyone else. Ive been stating my opinion on my experience so far. My plants literally never have a problem. Maybe I could push them more though?

Are you stating facts here? If so please explain im all ears and a very open minded person.

well im no wiki scientist like many people online are,im also just stating my opinions that are however based on some degree of reading..

The reason Ive switched to organics is because of Frank. I dont use his mix. But he does use bottled nutrients instead of teas for simplicity. If thats what were arguing about I have no problem with doing that.

I dont even make teas. I sprinkle guano on my soil and feed. I guess you could call that bottle feed in a sense. So Im not saying its stupid to use bottled nutes. As long as theyre organic. Because I believe organic things hold the highest vibration. and the higher the vibration the healthier your plants will be in their true essence.

But the organic community does get a bad wrap. Because there's idiots involved just like with anything else. Ive done my research though and as far as i know Im doing everything I can to imitate the perfect organic soil and feeding regimen for marijuana plants. But im sure there's still a ton of things i could be doing.

like i said,are you happy with your garden? if not than learn more,that all we can do is try and do better right? the method isnt as important as the spirit of the thing...

 

[milkyjoe]

Im not saying organics is the end all be all. Im still learning more and more everyday just like everyone else. Ive been stating my opinion on my experience so far. My plants literally never have a problem. Maybe I could push them more though?

Are you stating facts here? If so please explain im all ears and a very open minded person.

If you look at the work of nova crop control you will lots of things influence which ions plants take up. Thinking the plant itself has total control is not reality

 

[silver hawaiian]

Hippie tears are pretty controversial, depending on where they're sourced. I prefer 100% nomadic vegan hippie tears myself. Hippie mills are just unethical imo.

Well that's just like, your opinion, man.

Besides, when I was a kid that was the best reason to go to the mall!

 

[Ichabod Crane]

Well that's just like, your opinion, man.

Besides, when I was a kid that was the best reason to go to the mall!

If you go to a hippy mill they are force feed GMO corn chips and all kinds of crap. That is why their tears are not as good. Not only that they are forced to cry all the time and the tears at watered down. I heard they step on ants to get them to cry.

 

[Ichabod Crane]

Personnaly I like hippy tears from a commune. They are cared for better, but there are fewer and cost a lot more.

I prefer the tie die breed over the berkinstock.

 

[Cartel530]

i left a plant in a 5 gallon pot outside until the 2nd week of november on my back deck. The sour smell compared to the plants i had to pull on October 1st is insane. It has a faint.... pineapple maybe? im horrible with smells and taste but i can tell you these smell like different plants. the sour tone is making my mouth water where as the earlier picked has a dull slight hint of spiciness to it. im really likin the sour diesel coming out in her!

 

[Cartel530]

maybe its mango.. kinda has the mango a go go smell from jamba juice

 

[Cartel530]

I hear the tears mined from the hippys on hippy hill in frisco are what made cookies. Fed OG and BAM