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Maverick844
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heard that exact same thing .respect. been testing out a few other things out on this run . thats not the only light in that room . that 1k has been in a cool tube, the other lights r a 400watt led hitting 1 plant hard and a 600watt hps with no glass [/ATTACH][/ATTACH] on the other side of the room hittin on the sunset sherbert and sour dubb that r 2 weeks behind
heard that exact same thing .respect. been testing out a few other things out on this run . thats not the only light in that room . that 1k has been in a cool tube, the other lights r a 400watt led hitting 1 plant hard and a 600watt hps with no glass [/ATTACH][/ATTACH] on the other side of the room hittin on the sunset sherbert and sour dubb that r 2 weeks behind
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Maverick844
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i plan on leaving some buds on this and re vegging this plant since ive never tried to re-veg a plant before . anybody ever re veg a gg4 before? these dayz a lot of fake gg4 is going around . i got lucky . but i wasted a whole 3 month grow last spring on a fake glue. and it came from midnight farms a supplier to harborside in oakland so they r reputable.
ive never done it but you can spray it with a very low dose of ethaphon and it will reverse in a fraction of the time. its a nice insurance policy that you get it back.
short of that its not very hard and you can even clone them from harvest. works if you can get a loosely clustered understory branch. i find thick buds rot easily when i try to clone them.
but simply revegging by reversing with light on a partially harvested plant isnt that hard. personally i found it a lil tricky just because they slow down and you dont want to feed them like a veg plant at full strength. it doesnt use food or water fast so dont rot their roots while they sit wondering which way to grow, ive burned them trying to feed like a normal veg plant, and also over watered them because they were getting hand watered inadvertently more than they should because of a packed room and overspray.
just thought i would mention it since i felt so bad when i did it. you sound like this is not one you want to lose. its not hard just remember to baby her.
i err on the side of 1/2 to 3/4 strength feed and i keep on the slightly dryer side. they usually take about 3-4 weeks to show new growth and about twice that before i cant tell they had revegged by the leaf. its best to wait until the reveg growth is completely done before flipping.
i have had it take weeks longer than the point i was convinced it was done but then it just kept dragging out.
i wouldnt try to reveg now without at least trying ethaphon now that i know about it and also know how long it can take . would be cool to take new fully vegging snips a week after harvest.
i know only a couple folks who have done it and i am unsure of the "very low dose" but youll find it if you search. it works and people have documented it on here.
they get hot but you can loose one out of every four hps and you dont loose canopy. they are hotter but you use less of them to grow the same if not more weed in the same area,
almost 6 of one or maybe just shy of a half dozen with the other. its gonna be a net gain of heat even with dropping a couple lights but i odnt think it would be devastating especially with the new cool air cooled ones that allow the bulb to be out of the stream of air. the heat displaces into the stream of air flowing over inside of
the hood. i bet you would love them once you figured out the ride.
almost 6 of one or maybe just shy of a half dozen with the other. its gonna be a net gain of heat even with dropping a couple lights but i odnt think it would be devastating especially with the new cool air cooled ones that allow the bulb to be out of the stream of air. the heat displaces into the stream of air flowing over inside of
the hood. i bet you would love them once you figured out the ride.
Tardigrade
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Or, you could do as them corporate boyz at Mansanto do...soak everything in glyphosate. They doubled their yield! I think you be findin it at ur local shop, home de pot...a little bird told me your yields will be truly remarkable if you do...
That must be joke. It comes up as paraquat.
Reveg is simple, i do it to keeper seed plants when i want to keep the originals and not just clone a clone.
im not sure if the glycophosphate suggestion was a sarcastic dig at my ethaphon suggestion. my ethaphon suggestion was for keeping mom stock. i wouldnt use on any plant anyone will ever consume. its sometimes used to make seedless produce crops.
and yes reveggin isnt hard. its sometimes more or less difficult depending on health of said harvested plant and its vulnerability to pathogens while its growth rate slows to a crawl as its energy redirects. ethaphon shortens that vulnerability window by changing it to a non flowering plant growth phase on a dime. pretty useful. when i fail at revegging i have usually found it to be related to that window of vulnerability.
i dont usually lose revegging plants but i did a few times when i first started trying it with seed selections.
and yes reveggin isnt hard. its sometimes more or less difficult depending on health of said harvested plant and its vulnerability to pathogens while its growth rate slows to a crawl as its energy redirects. ethaphon shortens that vulnerability window by changing it to a non flowering plant growth phase on a dime. pretty useful. when i fail at revegging i have usually found it to be related to that window of vulnerability.
i dont usually lose revegging plants but i did a few times when i first started trying it with seed selections.
Tardigrade
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Just playing brother, no digs...I am sarcastic for sure. I bet you'd agree that if a grower is dumb enough to pour weed killer on their crop, then they deserve to lose it.
Revegging is simple, just leave the lights on and wait.
On a more serious note, I've invented a new smart phone app - a pH meter so you just drop your iphone in your rez and you can check it from anywhere in the world...
Revegging is simple, just leave the lights on and wait.
On a more serious note, I've invented a new smart phone app - a pH meter so you just drop your iphone in your rez and you can check it from anywhere in the world...
you cant do it more than 3 feet of water or it wont get wifi to send data.
I've just finished googling a few terms and couldn't find anything, could you share where you read that Ethephon helps reveg? I've got a seed plant that I want to wife up and she's nearly finished flowering, didn't take clones.
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I've always either raised lights up or dimmed during the last two weeks, as well as cut the lights to 10hours on /14 off. From my experience, if the buds are bombarded with copious amounts of intense light,or heat, during the final stages, the more volatile terpenes will begin to diminish rapidly. I've always been complimented on the visual and aromatic qualities of my flowers in a very competitive industry, cultivating the same varieties as so many others. The less volatile terps will hold fast, and the herb will be dank either way, but those more volatile terps are what makes the shit fly off the shelves.
A mh is about 30, 000 less lumens than a hortilux 1kw bulb, which means less heat and less intense light, and more overall terps if used at the end of flower. IME either way will achieve much better results than just finishing as usual. I don't think using a mh had any benefits other than less light intensity and less cooking of volatile terps.
Shortening the light cycle, and raising/dimming the lights the last two weeks, will also help mimic natural outdoor conditions and the plants will thank you for it by pulling the buds tighter, allowing more colors to show, frosting up a tad more, and staying stinky for longer. This is especially important for those that like their flowers a touch overripe, ala 70 day glue, etc. Many people like to pull on the early side to keep terps but it's not necessarily needed if the proper steps are taken. The same applies to the resin glands. Keep em intact and the % goes up. I don't think mh creates more of anything, just allows what has been created already to stick around longer. This is just my opinion bases on many trials, and not scientific facts per se. Everyone should try it a time or two and I guarantee you'll love the results! Good luck
I have had a few plants fail revenging. they just withered away and died. I hate do plant revenging. I don't do anymore. I have a 99.9% strike rate on rooting flowering cuts instead. All they way up to 6 weeks flower I have got cuts to root. Nerve tried to do any after 6 weeks.
I use a 4k MH DE at week 6 until done. I'n my flower room I use 3kw left, Center, Right,, I put the MH in the E-PAP center fixture. E-PAP uses a open reflector on the sides so it throws a much wider light pattern then Gavita does. I use it in the center for overlapping works greats.
Almost all my lights in veg have been converted over to CDM 315w T12.. Very happy with the results im seeing. I was using 600mh's in there. These 315 produce plants that have much better node spacing, Hardly any stretch. All the plants are loving these new light spectrum with the added UV benefits.
I use a 4k MH DE at week 6 until done. I'n my flower room I use 3kw left, Center, Right,, I put the MH in the E-PAP center fixture. E-PAP uses a open reflector on the sides so it throws a much wider light pattern then Gavita does. I use it in the center for overlapping works greats.
Almost all my lights in veg have been converted over to CDM 315w T12.. Very happy with the results im seeing. I was using 600mh's in there. These 315 produce plants that have much better node spacing, Hardly any stretch. All the plants are loving these new light spectrum with the added UV benefits.
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StudenTeacher
The only varietals I've ever had trouble revegging are ones that either preflower in veg under 18hours of light, or preflower while rootbound. I've done it dozens of times with great success, but when it's special genetics it doesn't ever seem to get less stressful! Larger pot, veg feed , 24 hours of light and you're golden. If it preflowers a lot in veg or autoflowers on ya it's up in the air. With those types I've still had success in up potting, though it's something I typically don't do with most types.
I used to just leave a few small buds after harvest, but now I try to leave like an oz at least. Always leave as many branches as possible. Some branches will spit out tons of clones, and some will continue to whither and die. I think this is where people have bad luck.
StankyBeamer
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I can vouch for the ethephon personally. I had it laying around because I used it to flower out my twisted fruit males as females to see calyx formation and resin production. Straightedge recommended it, so I tried it on one sfv cut that was off a 5wk flowering plant. The cut that got ethephon has been ready to clone for a couple weeks now, the other two are still putting out mutated reveg growth and single bladed leaves. Shit works. It's estrogen for plants.
It's a shame Dutch Master doesn't sell Reverse anymore. What brand ethephon do you use? What ppm?
StankyBeamer
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Florel brand, I'd have to find the bottle to get the exact concentration. I think it's like an ounce a gallon. Ethephon breaks down quickly and doesn't cause phytotoxicity, so I doubt you could over do it.
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