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Gorilla Glue #4

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shishkaboy

>>>>Beanie Man<<<<
How many days of growth? I usually do not count first week while rooting.

That was for the one I have in flowering in the 5 gal at 21 days in.

The ones I just put into coco are getting half strength. Feed, feed, feed. They have been in the coco for like 4 days or so.
 

xxxstr8edgexxx

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depending on pot size and moisture demands i feed full strength 1.2 from the time the plant is full size veg at a couple weeks at about 580. i keep it in a big enough pot in veg that i only feed once or twice a day.

i let em get root bound to the point they need water at least twice a day by the time they need to flip. i let em work for thier feed by keeping it at that rate letting em almost dry out but not quite actually get actually grainy coco. still moist if i time it right. so i get em about 3-4 times per lights on. thats if i do it well.

sometimes only can get to get big enough to only need to water once or twice per lights on, but that does really well too as long as you time it to maximize on air drawn into the root zone each feed as it dries. feeeding before the water leaves the zone just replces low oxygen water logged coco woth more liquid. when you let the water leave a bit more air displaces it n the medium and oxygenates your roots.

as for water feed, i never really do unless something really bad happens in there. i teend to like to lighten feed to get the same effect as water flushing soil. some people disagree with me and only flush with pure ro for two weeks. both methods work and i get ine to fade just the same but i feel its gentler.

other successful gardeners on here routinely do a weekly water only feed. i think wadeez does fresh water friday. i imagine it is really good if you are pushing your ec and get a lil back logging of unabsorbed leftovers. in that scenario its still nutrified but it dilutes the feed into a usable form.

i do the end of my fade by leaving float valve on tank in refill position. as it auto feeds it gets more and more weak in the tank.
 

Hammerhead

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I fed her full strength about three days ago at 6.1.
When I checked the runoff it came out at 5.9
She got just water last night at 6.1 again, and the run off was 5.8
Next feeding will be full strength at like 6.3-6.4
This is in pro mix with chemical nutes.

She is getting one feed and one water per week.

Edit: Imo, coco is hydro.




Using any soilless medium can be used the same as coco. I wouldn't call coco hydro its just a medium. When I say hydro im referring to any form of DWC,DTW,EBB these types of setups.

I mix my own medium there's coco in it. I feed 4 x with Nutrients 3x with RO. This can change depending on how fast the medium dries out.
 

whatsmells

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50/50 Gold coco/fox farms, Canna A and B, 1.2, calmag, DTW- 1/4" drip line with 2 open tee's on each line floods the post well, feed, feed, feed, every other day and a good flush (full strength) once a week.
 

xxxstr8edgexxx

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coco dtw absolutely is hydro. its almost as completely inert as clay and rockwool. if you feed multiple times a day in coco its no different than clay, rockwool or any other hydro medium.. the difference between soil and rockwool is no different than difference between soil and coco. both are inert with zero nutrients to speak of. its a system where the plants feed is 100% solution derived nutrients. the coco only serves as a hydro medium to hold the solution and provide an aerated texture.
 

hydr1

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I feed once a day in 3 gal smart pots, 4x8 tables on two sheets of 2" rigid board, ebb and flow using DWC controller bucket and a horse trough for res.
Sunshine 4 with #4 perlite chunks at 20%.

Feed every other day for veg, Feed once a day for an hour at lights on flower. Everything set with float valves and sentinel controller. 1200ppm 80F-65F and 55% RH.

Every week I build res and all week it slowly waters down with the RO topping off daily an hour after the dark cycle.

HydRganics

Nova, mykos, licious, frass, rapid start, hygrozyme, epsom, budswel, molasses powder
 

shishkaboy

>>>>Beanie Man<<<<
Using any soilless medium can be used the same as coco. I wouldn't call coco hydro its just a medium. When I say hydro im referring to any form of DWC,DTW,EBB these types of setups.

I mix my own medium there's coco in it. I feed 4 x with Nutrients 3x with RO. This can change depending on how fast the medium dries out.

Feed, feed, feed, feed, water, water ,water?
I have seen your plants so, if it aint broke...

I totally agree that any soiless medium can be a hydro.
I just have a hard time classifying promix as a medium.
Imo its like a hybrid because I let the medium dry out way more than I would in a straight up hydro.
 

Ganjaganjakush

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I'm curious do all you guys not running hydro feed nutrients every feeding. What are your feeding schedules. Meaning how many days per week do you feed nutrients and and how many are just H2o..There is no right or wrong answer here.

I water with aloe,coconut,silica then I'll use plain water, next hit with malted barley teas with fulvic, water then repeat. Once or twice a month I'll do a neem/kelp tea and then a fungal dom tea with fresh worm castings, fish hydroslate,kelp. I use alot of kelp full of good shit
 
coco dtw absolutely is hydro. its almost as completely inert as clay and rockwool. if you feed multiple times a day in coco its no different than clay, rockwool or any other hydro medium.. the difference between soil and rockwool is no different than difference between soil and coco. both are inert with zero nutrients to speak of. its a system where the plants feed is 100% solution derived nutrients. the coco only serves as a hydro medium to hold the solution and provide an aerated texture.

it's possible you might not know what inert means. but i assure you coco is not inert. glass and rocks are inert. coco breaks down and releases potassium like constantly.
 

Hammerhead

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The plants get fed 4x and they get water 2-3x.. So it would be feed feed, water, feed feed water, water..Rinse and repeat. COCO is just a medium to me. Hydro is a way of growing.
 

GoneP

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Hey guys,

First post here, but been snooping around icmag for quite a while now. Anyhow, I got a couple glues in flower at the moment, along with a couple of Ken's Phantoms.


Here are the glues in bloom at day 14, (excuse the crappy quality)


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GoneP

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I'm a new grower (currently in the middle of second grow). Previous run was Blue dream. The glue is even more vigorous than the BD, it's quite amazing to see grow.

Feeding Nectar for the gods and they LOVE it. I've run into a bit of an issue however, and would like some input from more knowledgeable heads here before I go and mess things up.

Ok, so like I said, been running NFTG with great success, no deficiencies, nute burns, nothing. The problem is, I'm damn near out of NFTG and money is extremely tight at the moment. The only other nutes I have on hand are GH Floranova and I don't have much experience with synthetics (I burnt the shit out of the plants early on in veg before switching back to NFTG).

I don't have the funds to go buy the nectar right now and really don't want to burn or lockout the plants with the floranova. what can I do? would switching to floranova at 2 weeks into flowering screw things up since Ive been running organic nutes for most of the grow?

I have the feeding schedule for the flora series that my friend wrote down for me that I can post, but like I said, i burnt the plants in early veg at his recommended doses and I definitely don't want to burn the plants in flower.
 

xxxstr8edgexxx

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I'm a new grower (currently in the middle of second grow). Previous run was Blue dream. The glue is even more vigorous than the BD, it's quite amazing to see grow.

Feeding Nectar for the gods and they LOVE it. I've run into a bit of an issue however, and would like some input from more knowledgeable heads here before I go and mess things up.

Ok, so like I said, been running NFTG with great success, no deficiencies, nute burns, nothing. The problem is, I'm damn near out of NFTG and money is extremely tight at the moment. The only other nutes I have on hand are GH Floranova and I don't have much experience with synthetics (I burnt the shit out of the plants early on in veg before switching back to NFTG).

I don't have the funds to go buy the nectar right now and really don't want to burn or lockout the plants with the floranova. what can I do? would switching to floranova at 2 weeks into flowering screw things up since Ive been running organic nutes for most of the grow?

I have the feeding schedule for the flora series that my friend wrote down for me that I can post, but like I said, i burnt the plants in early veg at his recommended doses and I definitely don't want to burn the plants in flower.

what strength did you feed?
thats likely the issue. any base feed will work on her as long as you dont under or over do it.
 

xxxstr8edgexxx

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*edit* @milky joe below and sunglasses thanks for the info. i dint know folks didnt consider it hydro. i met folks on here who refer to it that way, as different to soil and more like hydro. but i see your point.
thanks.
 

milkyjoe

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Coco has a cec. ..works juat like field soil. If you have any media, and any level of microbes you have some level of interaction...cation exchange. Especially if you use so called organic bottled nutes. C'mon, this is basic
 

dansbuds

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Hey guys,

First post here, but been snooping around icmag for quite a while now. Anyhow, I got a couple glues in flower at the moment, along with a couple of Ken's Phantoms.


Here are the glues in bloom at day 14, (excuse the crappy quality)


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the plants look nice & healthy & these guys will & have answered your feed questions .
but i kinda doubt thats GG4 . the stems are a dead give away , they look to sturdy & look hollow . Glue has a pithy solid stem & not as thick , very weak branched . they look more like the GG4 X sour bubble crosses Tony & I are working on . they've got them big ol dinner plate sized fan leaves too .
i could be wrong ........ :dunno:
 
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